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Old 09-22-2014, 02:49 PM   #281
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Welllll that escalated quickly...

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Welllll that escalated quickly...

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I don't see anyone targeting you or your post regarding your tick. Calm down dude before Mods step in with a ban hammer lol


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No the fella above said I wanted my car to be silent which I never did. That is when I got upset. There are way too way guys on here telling people not to post stuff and they use tactics like that to try to stifle I'm not going to let people totally purposely misinterpret my comments and get away with it.


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Then you misinterpret their comment...
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I'm not complaining about the tick. I'm telling all you dumb asses that you don't have to read every thread and to stop bullying people from giving their opinion and experience with their vehicle. All you guys who haven't had a problem then should shut up and let those that have or had a problem discuss this. If you haven't then move on.


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Did i call you a name? Grow up pal. You tell people to let others speak their opinion and that's what I did. Did I say anything derogatory towards you? Nope. But it would seem your pretty touchy so I won't say anymore to you.


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Did i call you a name? Grow up pal. You tell people to let others speak their opinion and that's what I did. Did I say anything derogatory towards you? Nope. But it would seem your pretty touchy so I won't say anymore to you.


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I was never receding to you. Until this post I never mentioned you in a post or quoted you, so why would you think that I was talking about you. So, who is the touchy one?


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Damn, I am out of popcorn.....
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Btw, it is pretty clear who the touchy one is.








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Damn, I am out of popcorn.....
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Damn, I am out of popcorn.....
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Btw, it is pretty clear who the touchy one is.


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Yes... This one is the touchy one lmao




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Update on my new engine... No tick after 800 miles. In fact, the engine is almost SILENT. 😉 really, it's very quiet. Unfortunately, it's burning oil. Down ~1.5 qts in 800 miles. I'm hoping the new rings seat pretty quick.


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2090 miles still no tick and have not burned any oil.


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Update here as well:

After ford looked at it and said nothing is wrong I'm letting it ride to the 4th oil change. This time, the tick NEVER Disappeared over mileage.

It used to go away after 500-1000 miles, It did reduce its consistency but now is ALWAYS there on warm start. I'm at 19.8k right now and about to take it in for the 4th service this upcoming week.

Hopefully it doesn't keep getting worse
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My tick was actually getting quieter and almost gone at idle, but I just did my first oil change by the dealer at 3,300 miles, and now the tick is back and loud again. I'm going to have to see what happens after I put a few hundred miles on it now after the oil change.
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Fill the tub with warm soapy water and hold its body under the water. Ticks swim to the top and are fairly easy to find on the head area. Cures ticks every time.

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Well...a heads up. Someone posted on this thread or another one (I'll search for it), I think in relation to the pickups with the 5.0 (they may have a different oil pan and different oil capacity) to put 7.7 quarts of oil in the car, not 8.0. It came time to change the oil again (I put too many miles on the car, I admit) and did as close to 7.7 quarts as I could, and it might make a sound or two moving from a stop in first gear (jury's out I haven't gotten to test it in a sound chamber), but it sounds nowhere near like the two videos I posted. Much better, if not perfect. Might be in my head, but the sound in the videos I posted is clear.

I used redline synthetic 5w20.

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Update on my new engine... No tick after 800 miles. In fact, the engine is almost SILENT. ������ really, it's very quiet. Unfortunately, it's burning oil. Down ~1.5 qts in 800 miles. I'm hoping the new rings seat pretty quick.


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No idea the experiences others had when new but for me that's a ****ton of oil. My old SRT4 blew a turbo and it burned less oil than that with the seals dumping it straight into the exhaust.
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Just read through some of this stuff, and its funny how some people say its worse when they get new oil, then goes away after a few hundred miles right?

Well, after reading an oil analysis thread on another forum, it seems as though the stock (motorcraft) oil viscocity starts out a little too high (too thick), then thins out probably to the right level in the middle, and then is actually too thin right before the oil change.

Some of the 100% synthetics like Amsoil were in the middle of the before & after range of viscocities. ie: 14+-. (and stayed the same through the entire 3,000+ miles)

Where the motorcraft oil's viscocity started out at like 19 and finished at 11-12... which I'm hypothesizing may be too thick in the beginning and you're hearing some part tapping that 's not getting enough oil to it until the engine is warmed up. It's the same type of valve tapping noises you hear if you don't have enough oil or your oil is too old & thin. So ticking / tapping goes away when the engine is either warmed up, or is the "right age" and the viscocity is in the right range.
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Just bought my 2014 GT and I noticed it ticking at an idle...like a lot. Im nervous about it but seems to be a problem with a lot of them. I have noticed when I turn the AC completly off it seems to go away. Wonder if it is something with the compressor?
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Just read through some of this stuff, and its funny how some people say its worse when they get new oil, then goes away after a few hundred miles right?

Well, after reading an oil analysis thread on another forum, it seems as though the stock (motorcraft) oil viscocity starts out a little too high (too thick), then thins out probably to the right level in the middle, and then is actually too thin right before the oil change.

Some of the 100% synthetics like Amsoil were in the middle of the before & after range of viscocities. ie: 14+-. (and stayed the same through the entire 3,000+ miles)

Where the motorcraft oil's viscocity started out at like 19 and finished at 11-12... which I'm hypothesizing may be too thick in the beginning and you're hearing some part tapping that 's not getting enough oil to it until the engine is warmed up. It's the same type of valve tapping noises you hear if you don't have enough oil or your oil is too old & thin. So ticking / tapping goes away when the engine is either warmed up, or is the "right age" and the viscocity is in the right range.
Interesting. Have a link to the thread? The noise in the video I posted only happens when warm, not when cold.
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Just read through some of this stuff, and its funny how some people say its worse when they get new oil, then goes away after a few hundred miles right?

Well, after reading an oil analysis thread on another forum, it seems as though the stock (motorcraft) oil viscocity starts out a little too high (too thick), then thins out probably to the right level in the middle, and then is actually too thin right before the oil change.

Some of the 100% synthetics like Amsoil were in the middle of the before & after range of viscocities. ie: 14+-. (and stayed the same through the entire 3,000+ miles)

Where the motorcraft oil's viscocity started out at like 19 and finished at 11-12... which I'm hypothesizing may be too thick in the beginning and you're hearing some part tapping that 's not getting enough oil to it until the engine is warmed up. It's the same type of valve tapping noises you hear if you don't have enough oil or your oil is too old & thin. So ticking / tapping goes away when the engine is either warmed up, or is the "right age" and the viscocity is in the right range.

It could be but it doesn't explain the others or majority that don't have the ticks. I've never had ticks or tocks except for one tank of bad gas. And I've always gotten my oil changed by the dealer.

I read somewhere also that a member got a new motor or something because a cylinder(s) was not round so there was some tapping by the walls. Perhaps with conjunction of too thick new oil and too thin old oil there's some tapping until the oil is spent after a few hundred or thousand miles. Being that the majority of the owners swap out the oil well before the life of it then most people don't experience old oil ticking.

So maybe the tolerance of the cylinders are off on a percentage of the engines manufactured.


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I also read about that replacement. I am still on the fence about it. I really don't know how a cylinder in a combustion engine that is a bit out of round will make a ticking sounds. Just does not not make sense to me at all. I think maybe the dealer tore it down and subsequently found that cyl out of round and replaced and told the owner that was the tick...because they found nothing else. Think the tick just happens on some and not others. Very interesting for sure, but nothing i am worried about. Thought it could be injectors, vvtc system (which is my fav still), or too thick oil. Seems that most that replace oil with other than motorcraft 5w50 tick, but not all. Vvtc operates by centrifugal force to move a cylinder...this seems plausible for an intermittent tick to me.
It may be like the owl in the tootsie roll pop commercials of yore....we may never know!
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I also read about that replacement. I am still on the fence about it. I really don't know how a cylinder in a combustion engine that is a bit out of round will make a ticking sounds. Just does not not make sense to me at all. I think maybe the dealer tore it down and subsequently found that cyl out of round and replaced and told the owner that was the tick...because they found nothing else. Think the tick just happens on some and not others. Very interesting for sure, but nothing i am worried about. Thought it could be injectors, vvtc system (which is my fav still), or too thick oil. Seems that most that replace oil with other than motorcraft 5w50 tick, but not all. Vvtc operates by centrifugal force to move a cylinder...this seems plausible for an intermittent tick to me.
It may be like the owl in the tootsie roll pop commercials of yore....we may never know!
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I'm pretty sure my cylinder really was messed up. Spent too much time in the shop with the tech to totally be BS'n me. The guys up front may have tried, but the actual mechanic was great. 1st time anyone there saw this problem. So it's logical that other's ticks may be something else, like that valve train.
The idea is that the out-of-round direction is perpendicular to the wrist pin, allowing the piston to twist on the pin, and the skirt hit... Piston slap. It's real quiet now. But now it seems to be using oil 😢
Mine calls for 5-20. Before going in, I tried 5-30 and it ticked much worse.
I really love the car. But this is tough love!
I hope yours just stops ticking!


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I'm pretty sure my cylinder really was messed up. Spent too much time in the shop with the tech to totally be BS'n me. The guys up front may have tried, but the actual mechanic was great. 1st time anyone there saw this problem. So it's logical that other's ticks may be something else, like that valve train.
The idea is that the out-of-round direction is perpendicular to the wrist pin, allowing the piston to twist on the pin, and the skirt hit... Piston slap. It's real quiet now. But now it seems to be using oil
Mine calls for 5-20. Before going in, I tried 5-30 and it ticked much worse.
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I hope yours just stops ticking!

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Yours was such low mileage and manifested so quickly I think they're telling the truth. It's not the sort of thing to go silent 45000 miles.

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Don't get me wrong. I really think u had an out of round cyl. I just don't see how that will make a tick sound...even with the explanation u gave. Not sure what they think was "slapping." I think it is more likely that they found this (unrelated) problem while hunting for a tick issue.
Glad it is running good with no tick. Tick doesn't bother me at all. Used to have a inline 4.0 jeep/tractor engine that sounded like a Cat D8!
Still think it has more to do with oil viscosity and the vvtc system valves in our motors, but meh.
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I had a couple of the old 4.0 jeeps too! At idle they really did sound like a diesel! Lol! One of mine was old enough to blow the exhaust off, right before the converter. Man, did that thing scream! Put out a solid 6" flame in the mornings too! Lol!!

The dealer was explaining a little about noise in the 5.0. This was the A+ tech that knew his stuff. He explained that sound travels through these new aluminum blocks a lot different than it did in the old cast blocks. I can't explain much more... Lol! But the net of it, although it sounded like top end, lifters... It was coming from below.
Toward the end, mine was getting pretty loud and doing it all the time. Almost more of a knock. I should have recorded for everyone.

Changed oil today. No significant shavings or debris. Hopefully the rings have seated, and it stops drinking oil too.


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Mine ended up being the AC tensioner assembly tick. Ford replaced with serpentine and spring loaded tensioner. 12-8-14 TSB and all is good now.


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Mine ended up being the AC tensioner assembly tick. Ford replaced with serpentine and spring loaded tensioner. 12-8-14 TSB and all is good now.


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Awesome. What year was yours again?
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Awesome. What year was yours again?

2013. Build date 12/12. TSB technically only applied up to 11/12 builds but it still fixed mine.


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2013. Build date 12/12. TSB technically only applied up to 11/12 builds but it still fixed mine.


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Do you h ave any kind of video of the sound yours made?
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Do you h ave any kind of video of the sound yours made?

http://youtu.be/y7PjF-P9224

That's mine prior to TSB fix. Sorry for delay on replies. Keep forgetting to check.


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Very interesting. Sounds similar to the sound mine makes after the oil is 800 miles in, but by 1000 it goes away. Since the only variable that affects the sound mine makes is changning my oil, I doubt this would help me even if I could get them to do it.

I'm glad you had success.
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My 2014 does not sound like some yours at all. Mine sounds like a lazy lifter that comes and goes on the passenger side. Ever since I put my long tunes on, it sounds louder due to the long tubes amplifying the sound. I can lay under the car and hear the sound through the passenger side long tube. I still have to put a stethoscope to see where it is coming from. It has done it since day one. I have redline 5w50 in it right now but it's in storage for winter. Maybe next oil change I will try 5w30 but if it is just a lifter, I am just going to let it tick. The engine burned oil when it was new, then after my first oil change it burns nothing, so I think my block is fine.


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Sounds like a throw out bearing issue.


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Update for everyone:
I called ford to complain about the issue instead of going to the dealer first.
I asked them to provide a rental car until this was solved.
2 Weeks later I got a call saying a new short block was shipped. And they are going to replace it.
I'll see if i can get any pictures of the old block.

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1) I have the tick.
2) 2014 GT (17,500 miles)
3) Built: 05/13, bought 06/13 with 7 miles on it.
4) Dealer: 1st oil change (3,300 miles)
Dealer: 2nd oil change (9999 miles)
-TICK BEGINS (10,300 miles)
Disappears at 13000~ish
Dealer: 3rd oil change (15500 miles)
-TICK RETURNS much worse (15700 miles)
Dealer: They give me the normal dealer bull****.

5) Tick is very quiet during fully warm conditions or fully cold.
The Tick its absolutely unbearable under specific conditions below:
Car has been driven til fully warm, then let to cool for 1hr-5hrs.
Upon start up (for lunch for example) the car will tick rapidly for up to 10 minutes before calming down again.

6) You can hear it over my Roush mufflers (only mod).... so embarassing next to the 4 other 2011-2014 GTs at my work . Get nothing but WTF's from my coworkers...



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So this is the second short block for this issue? Not good.................
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I also read about that replacement. I am still on the fence about it. I really don't know how a cylinder in a combustion engine that is a bit out of round will make a ticking sounds. Just does not not make sense to me at all. I think maybe the dealer tore it down and subsequently found that cyl out of round and replaced and told the owner that was the tick...because they found nothing else. Think the tick just happens on some and not others. Very interesting for sure, but nothing i am worried about. Thought it could be injectors, vvtc system (which is my fav still), or too thick oil. Seems that most that replace oil with other than motorcraft 5w50 tick, but not all. Vvtc operates by centrifugal force to move a cylinder...this seems plausible for an intermittent tick to me.
It may be like the owl in the tootsie roll pop commercials of yore....we may never know!
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Does anyone know of any literature that shows how the vvtc system works on this car? Is it exactly the same as say a Honda system or does anyone know?

For those with the new short blocks, did they try the tsb before replacing? Did they tear it down or what to diagnose? Was there any compression lost?
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