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Old 04-28-2014, 09:15 AM   #1
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Watts Link..... Which one

So I'm thinking about getting a watts link. Seems like it is a good replacement for the panhard bar. The two I'm looking at are Whiteline and Fays. What is throwing me off is how different they look and how they install. Anyone have experience with both? Is the Whiteline worth the extra $200? Thanks
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Old 04-28-2014, 09:32 PM   #4
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I don't know Fays. I got my wattslink off Craigslist from a guy who sold his 09 mustang that he used to take to the track. He swears by them over Fays which he used to have before the wattslink. He said the main difference was the bolts on the Fays would loosen all the time from tracking and hated to have to tighten them all the time. As for me, I wanted to improve the overall handling and the wattslink definitely delivers. Also I had Whiteline sway bars already and it does replace my old panhard bar. Click image for larger version

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+1 on griggs as you can get a torque arm with it.
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I've got a fays setup coming. For my sn95. It's definitely the berries framed watts link. My buddy swears by the steeda watts link for s197 cars.
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I don't know Fays. I got my wattslink off Craigslist from a guy who sold his 09 mustang that he used to take to the track. He swears by them over Fays which he used to have before the wattslink. He said the main difference was the bolts on the Fays would loosen all the time from tracking and hated to have to tighten them all the time. As for me, I wanted to improve the overall handling and the wattslink definitely delivers. Also I had Whiteline sway bars already and it does replace my old panhard bar. Attachment 155390
I can't speak about anything other than the Fays 2 watts link which I had installed on my mustang and I love it. Made a noticeable difference in handling. I have not had any issues with bolts loosening up and I have about 8,000 miles on it. Hope that helps.
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Wait for the BMR one to come out

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Since when is BMR coming out with a Watts link?
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BMR doesn't really make that much stuff. Yea their stuff is pretty good quality, but they don't make a whole lot.
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I will look for the link, but BMR is going to come out with new springs (drag. Street and handling), a new rear sway bar, $80 LCAs and a watts link. Its all over S197 and SVTP

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Watts Link..... Which one

I said it before, But here it is again......... Griggs Racing
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I would wait for the BMR one, especially considering that they are shooting for the $500 mark

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When it comes to a Watts link I wouldn't cheap out honestly. Griggs has suspension down to an easy science.

Bruce Griggs races an SN95 fully built suspension of his, and beats prepped ferraris and lamborghini's. For the quality of the Griggs one I think it's fairly cheap.
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I've got a question; this is a direct replacement for a panhard bar setup, right? So, if you do the whiteline panhard plus brace you are out about $290 bucks (180 for the bar, 110 for the brace). The whiteline watts system on AM is $900.

Do you need the brace for the watts link, or does it bolt in directly where the panhard brace + bar would? Does this bolt directly on to the stock differential cover or do you need an aftermarket one, like the griggs site mentions?

I'm trying to decide if the extra $600 for a watts link is money well spent for most people's daily driver that might see occasional track use or backroad spirited driving. I certainly like the idea of having that rear axle nailed to center regardless of height or load applied to the suspension.
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The BMR watts won't mount to the diff cover and you can use OEM and aftermarket covers.

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I don't have an account for that forum (yet) and it won't let me see the thread. $500 for just the watts, or is it part of the kit you mentioned with control arms? Either way, that's a steal compared to the $900 that AM wants for the whiteline watts setup assuming the quality is on par.

Does that thread have any timeframe mentioned?
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I don't have an account for that forum (yet) and it won't let me see the thread. $500 for just the watts, or is it part of the kit you mentioned with control arms? Either way, that's a steal compared to the $900 that AM wants for the whiteline watts setup assuming the quality is on par.

Does that thread have any timeframe mentioned?
Its for the watts, I only mentioned the other products to highlight that BMR is coming out with new products including some for people wanting better handling opposed to drag racing.
Kelly said before the end of the year, I'm going to use that time to compare different watts links, look up people's opinions and experiences

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duh, found out the answer to my own question - the whiteline setup includes a new differential cover (which explains why it's more expensive).

Hmm, I'm really considering adding this to my build list instead of the panhard + brace. I guess it depends if it's really worth the extra cash.
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If the watts link can be used on OEM or various aftermarket differential covers then its not a good kit. Like the Griggs one its designed to be used with a specific differential cover. "Universal" stuff is what you should stay away from when it comes to suspension.

And yes, a Watts link is a million times better than a Panhard Bar.
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How do watts links hold up with some occasional drag strip time? With hard launches with slicks/drag radials?
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How do watts links hold up with some occasional drag strip time? With hard launches with slicks/drag radials?

Perfectly fine.
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I'm pretty stoked about this. Really looking forward to seeing their watts design and the new rear sway bar
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I saw in there about 4th gen possibly. I wonder if that will be able to work with a rear coilover kit?
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The only reason Griggs designed it that way is mainly because of a torque arm unit that is used in conjunction. If you were to look at the full picture of the BMR watts link, it would definitely change your perspective. One word BEEFYYYYY
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Here is a nice article that was done on our unit, which was mentioned above:

All Watt’s Linkages are Not Created Equal « Steeda Blog

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The only reason Griggs designed it that way is mainly because of a torque arm unit that is used in conjunction. If you were to look at the full picture of the BMR watts link, it would definitely change your perspective. One word BEEFYYYYY
Big, bulky and "beefy" doesn't always mean the strongest.

I'm not saying the BMR one won't be good, they are definitely a great brand. But they are not the Mecca of suspension.
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Big, bulky and "beefy" doesn't always mean the strongest.

I'm not saying the BMR one won't be good, they are definitely a great brand. But they are not the Mecca of suspension.
I know Griggs and cortex make awesome pieces, I was simply playing devil's advocate by throwing another option into the mix.

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I have 27,000 miles on a CorteX watts link and coilovers. 25,000 miles on their torque arm. If you have any questions about their set up let me know. I can give you my opinion. I have not used any of the other watts links already mentioned.
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I have 27,000 miles on a CorteX watts link and coilovers. 25,000 miles on their torque arm. If you have any questions about their set up let me know. I can give you my opinion. I have not used any of the other watts links already mentioned.
What does the rest of your suspension consist of? Is it your dd? I would like to hear your opinion

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