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Old 04-29-2014, 05:24 PM   #1
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Can't get her to hook

New member, not new to Mustangs. I have a new 14' GT I can't get to hook at all from a dig. Nothing new there I know. Engine mods are, Airaid CAI, 3" O/R X pipe, Flowmaster axle backs and Bama 93 performance tune. Suspension mods are, Roush springs, Boss 302 LCAs, Whiteline brackets and BMR adjustable panhard. Running a Nitto NT555 285 rear tire around 35 psi. 3.31 gears.


I am about to die to throw a Roush huffer on it. As bad as it spins in 1st and 2nd now, I can only imagine how bad it will be with another 175 hp.


So what do you do for better traction?
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Old 04-29-2014, 05:57 PM   #2
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Get some drag radials. Upper and lower control arms, shock struts, and subframe connectors. The control arms really help a lot. Along with a stickier tire. look at the 555r or if its not a daily then some MTs
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I really noticed a big improvement with the Boss control arms and relocating brackets. And I realize with somewhere around 400 hp at the wheels, it is not easy to tame tire spin on a street tire. Just wondering what 600+ hp cars do different. Or is it just that much worse?
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Get some wider and better rubber out back
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Ditch the boss crap
BMR LCA's.
BMR relocation brackets
JPC adjustable UCA

Also ditch the crappy 555's
NT05r's
Or ET street 2's
best bet is a full slick though. You will break **** more from a dig with drag radials

Takes some playing with the suspension and tires to get it but I can hook from a dig with a 200 and 4.10's


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Can someone explain to me why a drag radial is more capable of breaking parts then a full slick.. I always thought slicks hook harder
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Because radial tires will hook then slip then hook again giving it more of a chance to break

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But a slick will just hook and go
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BC a slick is going to stick and stay planted.
While a drag radial will grip and slip and grip then slip.
Just weld your axle tubes and your good to go launching on a slick

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Why do you say the Boss LCAs are crap?
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BC they are. They were not built for launching. Also be careful launching on white line relocation brackets. They have been known to fail more than once under hard launches. You will have a bad night/day if one decides to let go.

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Best bet is go with BMR if your going to be launching hard. Also weld the relocation brackets and axle tubes

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Hmmm. Well, the Boss LCAs seemed like a nice upgrade over stock, and I did seem to gain some traction with them, although they may not be the best choice. I was actually quite impressed with the Whiteline bracket construction. And I own a machine shop. So I kinda know quality when it comes to metal parts. As far as tires go, this is just a street car. And I also do some autoxing with it. This is where I will need a second set of rear wheels/tires.
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The problem you have are tires. Not specifically the 555, but rather the 14 GT in stock form has too much more for most street tires. My 06 GT was pulling 1.81 60' times on 275 Nitto 555 street tires up until I passed 350WHP. Then I added 305 555R2 in the back for traction and I was BOGGING them

If you stick with a street tire, you will need a 305+ to get a little traction most likely. Lowering the PSI to 32-33 will make a subtle but noticeable difference.

Rear suspension will help the current tire a ton.
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Can someone explain to me why a drag radial is more capable of breaking parts then a full slick.. I always thought slicks hook harder
To expand on what others have said, the sidewall of a slick will wrinkle and give causing less of a shock on the rear. A drag radial with a stiff sidewall will not give and will shock the drive line, especially a manual transmission car, much harder.
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The width really does not matter on the tire. The proper suspension setup and tire in general does.

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The width really does not matter on the tire. The proper suspension setup and tire in general does.

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Tire width still plays an important factor if he is going to keep a street tire. Well, width for the wheel, if he has the factory 9" wide, then he won't gain any more surface area by going wider than his 285. More surface area, more traction. But going wider than his 285 will not give HIM more traction.
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I have a 10" rear wheel, so a 305 would fit the wheel great. They are +40mm offset though, so it will be right on the limit of sticking out past the fender. Where are you guys talking about welding the axle tubes?
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You can have a 275 and run 7's.
Its all tire choice and suspension. I will throw 285's on my 10" rears and drag a lot of ***.

Welding the actual axle tube where it connects to the pumpkin.

On slicks you can twist a axle tube

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Bottom line is if you want a street tire that hooks ( non drag radial) mickey street comps.
I usually rub around on drag radials. But when it comes to street tires I have tried a lot of them. Nothing compares to the street comps. BUT suspension has a bigger key then actual tires

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Like bori said though l, street tire is hard to hook with. The 285 street comps are plenty.

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