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Old 05-02-2014, 09:14 PM   #1
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Brand new 2013 5.0 at dealership?????

Guys, does this seem a bit odd that a dealership would still have a brand new, not used 2013 5.0 convertible listed for almost 43k. My father was over at this Ford dealership today and saw this. He can't believe they would have a new 5.0 from 2013 still. Heck, he said Ford doesn't even have incentives on the 2013 mustang models.

Why didn't this beauty sell? Wtf. My father wants to know what's a fair offer to make on this alleged new older 2013 model? Something seems strange to me but I come to you experts on this. Here is the dealerships web site and inventory of this 2013 5.0.

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If you look on the description it says it has a 4.2"LCD screen so it has the Electronics package and its a premium and a convertible. That's probably why its marked up a bit but seeing that it is a 2013 I don't know why they even still have it in their inventory it should have sold unless that dealership sucks and doesn't negotiate or what not. All the dealers around me have new 14's all the 13's are gone. I'd say fair price since its last years model and its a GT Premium and a Vert probably a good price is $34K-$37K. Cause its last years model and the new Mustang is already unveiled and soon to hit the market?
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If you look on the description it says it has a 4.2"LCD screen so it has the Electronics package and its a premium and a convertible. That's probably why its marked up a bit but seeing that it is a 2013 I don't know why they even still have it in their inventory it should have sold unless that dealership sucks and doesn't negotiate or what not. All the dealers around me have new 14's all the 13's are gone. I'd say fair price since its last years model and its a GT Premium and a Vert probably a good price is $34K-$37K. Cause its last years model and the new Mustang is already unveiled and soon to hit the market?
That's what I was thinking that, why would they still even have a 2013 left over? Granted its a sweet package but 43k for an almost 2 year old model seems crazy. Heck, guys are getting 7k off on 2014 models now so 2013 models should be getting back 10k off..ha ha ha
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[QUOTE=2011 Kona Blue;2003455]Guys, does this seem a bit odd that a dealership would still have a brand new, not used 2013 5.0 convertible listed for almost 43k. My father was over at this Ford dealership today and saw this. He can't believe they would have a new 5.0 from 2013 still. Heck, he said Ford doesn't even have incentives on the 2013 mustang models.

Why didn't this beauty sell? Wtf. My father wants to know what's a fair offer to make on this alleged new older 2013 model? Something seems strange to me but I come to you experts on this. Here is the dealerships web site and inventory of this 2013 5.0.

It would depend on how the Dealer pays for his vehicles. The dealer has 30 days from delivery to sell the car. After 30 days, he either pays for it out of his own pocket or borrows money from the bank.

My local Chevy Dealership, paid for all of his cars, so sometimes he would hold onto some of the Corvettes he had ordered. The 1978 Pace Car, Silver Anniversary, 1982 Collector's Edition, 30th, 40th, 5th, etc.....

Since there are not a lot of these sitting around unless they are used, he will eventually get someone to pay full sticker for it.
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Depends on the dealership. One ford dealership by me had a 09 gt still brand new for sale inside, about 9 months ago

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Very interesting point but why hold onto a 2013. There is nothing about that model year that makes it collector material. Its not a special, limited, rare edition mustang so it makes me leery on why it has not sold yet. Lol.
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Depends on the dealership. One ford dealership by me had a 09 gt still brand new for sale inside, about 9 months ago

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Wow, that's crazy. A new 09 Gt. Lol
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Possible the owner of the dealership kept it for whatever reason, then decided to sell it. There could be multiple reasons.

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Very interesting point but why hold onto a 2013. There is nothing about that model year that makes it collector material. Its not a special, limited, rare edition mustang so it makes me leery on why it has not sold yet. Lol.

For that one guy who hates the 2015 but still wants a new Mustang.
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Possible the owner of the dealership kept it for whatever reason, then decided to sell it. There could be multiple reasons.

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Very true but no way my pops is gonna pay close to 43k for a 2 year old model when the 14 models are same or less. Ha ha ha
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Wow, that's crazy. A new 09 Gt. Lol
It was odd for sure. Just was one of the owners personal collections. Then decided to sell it.

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For that one guy who hates the 2015 but still wants a new Mustang.
Ha ha ha. Could be right. Lol
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It was odd for sure. Just was one of the owners personal collections. Then decided to sell it.

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So, does the dealership sell that 09 GT for a new price of the 09 GT?
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So, does the dealership sell that 09 GT for a new price of the 09 GT?
I can't remember what the price was on it. It had the original window sticker still. Sobi assume it was

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I can't remember what the price was on it. It had the original window sticker still. Sobi assume it was

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Someone would get royally screwed if they paid MSRP now for a new 09 Gt because once they drive it away it becomes a used vehicle and price of a used 09 Gt. Which is going to be far far less than the MSRP someone just paid. Ba ha ha ha
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So my father went back to that dealership and spoke with the salesman about negotiation of the sale. The lowest the dealership would go on the car they told him was invoice. 41k firm. As he began to laugh and walk out, the salesman got his manager and again best they could do was 41k.

Why would someone pay 41k for a 13 model that's 2 years old when one can buy the same 14 model for around 36k. Ba ha ha ha. Clearly that dealership does not want to really sell that 2013 model or ever really wanted to sell that model. They want to be a bit greedy so they will have to find someone desperate for a 13 model and willing to pay 41k.
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They must not want to lose money on it lol. Stingy dealership.
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That's why a 13 is still sitting in their lot. At that rate it'll be sitting there in 2015 as well.
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That's why a 13 is still sitting in their lot. At that rate it'll be sitting there in 2015 as well.
It might be their till 2018 unless they want to come back to earth. Ha ha
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I know this is ages ago, but in 95 I went to a local ford dealership and they had a 93gt vert on the lot brand new. Nothing special two tone paint cloth seats with an automatic. They would't budge on the price. I was trying to trade in my 91lx 5.0 hatch. $23000 on the window sticker on the gt.
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It might be their till 2018 unless they want to come back to earth. Ha ha
It's their failed strategy of trying to keep the 13 to sell in another 50 years as a classic. When the owner if the dealership told the sales team he wanted to keep a GT500 for 50 years as the last Carroll Shelby special they misheard Carroll and thought Convertible GT.

It would be pretty epic to see a brand new GT500 for sale in 2064 though... Even a GT Convertible for that matter so maybe they got something here lol
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So my father went back to that dealership and spoke with the salesman about negotiation of the sale. The lowest the dealership would go on the car they told him was invoice. 41k firm. As he began to laugh and walk out, the salesman got his manager and again best they could do was 41k.

Why would someone pay 41k for a 13 model that's 2 years old when one can buy the same 14 model for around 36k. Ba ha ha ha. Clearly that dealership does not want to really sell that 2013 model or ever really wanted to sell that model. They want to be a bit greedy so they will have to find someone desperate for a 13 model and willing to pay 41k.
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Kona Blue's dad should consider this lol. Just find a different dealership with a new 2014.




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It was odd for sure. Just was one of the owners personal collections. Then decided to sell it.

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Did the owner title it (to himself)? If so, it's not really a new model, but rather a used model with extreemly low mileage!
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I bought a loaded 2012 ram when they were loading 2014,s.
Got a hell of a deal. I had the cash, and could neg. If I had to borrow there would of been a problem with the original offer.
So it may be a combo of a few things.
How many miles on it?
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Did the owner title it (to himself)? If so, it's not really a new model, but rather a used model with extreemly low mileage!
Very good question which I do not know if the car was titled to the owner. My father is not sure either on that. The car had 97 miles on it which the salesman claimed they were from customers demo test drives. That sounds legit and the dealership claimed its a new car. My father said the car was flawlessly clean and even the engine and its bay were spotless.

According to my pops, the convertible roof was in perfect condition and the car looked as if it was kept inside because the car was in beautiful condition. If my father could of purchased it for 32k-33k, he would of pulled the trigger. The purchase would be more of an opportunity purchase for a great price more than a desire must have purchase.

My father really likes my mustang but can't say he was really actively looking. This particular Ford dealership happened to be next to a hotel my father was staying at during a little get away with his Goldwing motorcycle chapter. This dealership is located in Mississippi and my father lives in the St. Louis Missouri area.

According to my father this dealership seemed to be in an mostly African American community and the entire staff of the dealership was also African American.
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They must not want to lose money on it lol. Stingy dealership.
they already have lost $ on it.
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they already have lost $ on it.
Sooner or later someone will want a convertible and they will pay the price. After all, it's still a new car. The Warranty will still apply. When the 2015 convertibles start popping up, someone wont like the front end styling. They will get their money, after all, you wont be able to drive down the street and get a brand new one from any other dealerships.
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Sooner or later someone will want a convertible and they will pay the price. After all, it's still a new car. The Warranty will still apply. When the 2015 convertibles start popping up, someone wont like the front end styling. They will get their money, after all, you wont be able to drive down the street and get a brand new one from any other dealerships.
You could be right but buy that time the 2013 is even older and its used value keeps dropping. Why spend 41k on a 2 1/2 year old model when someone can buy that same model per owned with almost no millage for 15 to 17k less?
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You could be right but buy that time the 2013 is even older and its used value keeps dropping. Why spend 41k on a 2 1/2 year old model when someone can buy that same model per owned with almost no millage for 15 to 17k less?
With less than 100 miles, this car's value will go up. Basically your still getting a new vehicle, with a warranty and zero mileage.

We shall see.....
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With less than 100 miles, this car's value will go up. Basically your still getting a new vehicle, with a warranty and zero mileage.

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You could be right but I personally wouldn't pay 41k for that 2013 model. If something happens to the car a week later you only going to get book value. That book value is a 2013 regardless of the millage. It will loose at least 10k in value the moment one signs the paperwork and drives it off the lot. A 2014 model won't loose 10k when you drive it off the lot. Ha ha ha. It may loose 4k but not 10k.
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With less than 100 miles, this car's value will go up. Basically your still getting a new vehicle, with a warranty and zero mileage.

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It will go up in value? Are you special? In the head?
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You could be right but I personally wouldn't pay 41k for that 2013 model. If something happens to the car a week later you only going to get book value. That book value is a 2013 regardless of the millage. It will loose at least 10k in value the moment one signs the paperwork and drives it off the lot. A 2014 model won't loose 10k when you drive it off the lot. Ha ha ha. It may loose 4k but not 10k.
NewMTang is the same person who believes that if u get scratched and chipped rims on all four rims that is ok even tho you paid brand new pricing because eventually you're gonna scratch it up anyway driving the car. So why not have someone else scratch up the rims for you, why now have someone eat the $60 steak for you since the steak is gonna get shiit out anyway, why not let your best man Fk ur new wife cuz she's gonna get fked anyway.

Of course he's ok with paying top dollars for a non classic even tho it would be valued at a 2-3yo used car the moment u drove it off the lot.

He's the type of person u wanna sell an empty burger carton to cuz his philosophy is the burger will get eaten anyway so hell why not pay full price for an empty carton anyway.
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Guys, does this seem a bit odd that a dealership would still have a brand new, not used 2013 5.0 convertible listed for almost 43k. My father was over at this Ford dealership today and saw this. He can't believe they would have a new 5.0 from 2013 still. Heck, he said Ford doesn't even have incentives on the 2013 mustang models.

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