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Old 05-30-2014, 04:28 PM   #141
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Bullitt anyone?

I was thinking the same thing!
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Do those guys on Challengertalk know you are over here thinking about getting a Mustang? LOL. They are a brutal bunch when it comes to talking about anything other than Challengers and most of them think that the Mustang is crap.


They jumped on me pretty good when I said some positive things about Mustangs and said what things I didn't like about the challenger. It was even worse when they found out I owned a Mustang and not a Challenger. I even posted the things that I didn't like about the Mustang but that didn't help. I'm pretty careful about what I post over there and mostly just browse anymore.


A lot of those guys on Challengertalk claim to smoke the 5.0 Mustang GT's all of the time with the SRT-8. I don't know, they might. It has 470 hp and 470 of torque compared to the 420 hp and 390 torque of the Mustang GT. It has the horsepower and torque advantage even though it is heavier.


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Wow,

That Challenger group sounds like the idiots that were in my Stupid Idiot Corvette club when I was stupid enough to join it. A bunch of idiots that I did not want to be around at all so I gave it up except on track renting days.
What I love about Mustangs is they are mostly owned by "CAR PEOPLE" that not only like their Mustangs but also like other performance cars. JUST PLAIN BETTER CLASS OF PEOPLE.
I belong to a Muscle car club with over 300 members and I have not heard one snob stupid thing said about anybody's car. It is what clubs and Muscle cars are all about. I don't think I would even want a Challenger if that was the only forum around. I do like the car though.
I'll be sticking with my Mustang until it totally falls apart. ( My Corvette Did ) I like all you on this forum and although we don't always agree 100% we still treat each other with respect and do not bad mouth each other or anyone else. Or pick on other makes of Muscle cars.
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That Challenger group sounds like the idiots that were in my Stupid Idiot Corvette club when I was stupid enough to join it. A bunch of idiots that I did not want to be around at all so I gave it up except on track renting days.

What I love about Mustangs is they are mostly owned by "CAR PEOPLE" that not only like their Mustangs but also like other performance cars. JUST PLAIN BETTER CLASS OF PEOPLE.

I belong to a Muscle car club with over 300 members and I have not heard one snob stupid thing said about anybody's car. It is what clubs and Muscle cars are all about. I don't think I would even want a Challenger if that was the only forum around. I do like the car though.

I'll be sticking with my Mustang until it totally falls apart. ( My Corvette Did ) I like all you on this forum and although we don't always agree 100% we still treat each other with respect and do not bad mouth each other or anyone else. Or pick on other makes of Muscle cars.

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It's not that bad... There's a thread going on right now called "is the 392 faster than the 5.0?". Google it and you will see mostly good conversation with like 1 or 2 mopar fanboys getting way too defensive. Every forum has those guys. I mean hell, go back through this thread and there's been a couple negative posts from like 1 or 2 guys, but from my limited experience on here, this forum seems like a great place!
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It's not that bad... There's a thread going on right now called "is the 392 faster than the 5.0?". Google it and you will see mostly good conversation with like 1 or 2 mopar fanboys getting way too defensive. Every forum has those guys. I mean hell, go back through this thread and there's been a couple negative posts from like 1 or 2 guys, but from my limited experience on here, this forum seems like a great place!

I read that thread over there and was surprised how civil it actually turned out. Most threads like that in the past have turned out pretty ugly.


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It's not that bad... There's a thread going on right now called "is the 392 faster than the 5.0?". Google it and you will see mostly good conversation with like 1 or 2 mopar fanboys getting way too defensive. Every forum has those guys. I mean hell, go back through this thread and there's been a couple negative posts from like 1 or 2 guys, but from my limited experience on here, this forum seems like a great place!
The Challengers are beautiful looking modern day muscle cars. They provide comfort, nice room and power. Why does it really matter which model is faster? What difference does it make? Both the mustang and Challenger are beautiful looking pony cars and each have a different style and look.

I personally think the Challenger is the best looking retro pony car but not a fan of Dodge quality. I personally think Ford produces far superior longer lasting vehicles but that's just my own opinion however I do love the Challenger.

Its funny how you never hear Corvette owners say "Why the heck you buy the Grand Sport model and not the Z06 model". I have been to several Corvette car shows and in conversation have never heard them say how their Corvette can kick the a$$ of a Porsch or Viper, or Mustang or Challenger etc.

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The Challengers are beautiful looking modern day muscle cars. They provide comfort, nice room and power. Why does it really matter which model is faster? What difference does it make? Both the mustang and Challenger are beautiful looking pony cars and each have a different style and look.

I personally think the Challenger is the best looking retro pony car but not a fan of Dodge quality. I personally think Ford produces far superior longer lasting vehicles but that's just my own opinion however I do love the Challenger.

Its funny how you never hear Corvette owners say "Why the heck you buy the Grand Sport model and not the Z06 model". I have been to several Corvette car shows and in conversation have never heard them say how their Corvette can kick the a$$ of a Porsch or Viper, or Mustang or Challenger etc.

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That's actually a pretty good point. I mean I bought my challenger knowing it wasn't the fastest. I love the retro styling, and I actually like the fact that it's a huge car that can still move. That being said, I do keep up on information for other cars. I hated the look of the new mustang upon release, but now it's really growing on me and need I even mention the 5.0 coyote engine? I also love the rears of the 2015 challenger, and the fact that the 392 will be available in RT trims. Just waiting for pricing and to actually sit and drive those cars before deciding anything.
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That's actually a pretty good point. I mean I bought my challenger knowing it wasn't the fastest. I love the retro styling, and I actually like the fact that it's a huge car that can still move. That being said, I do keep up on information for other cars. I hated the look of the new mustang upon release, but now it's really growing on me and need I even mention the 5.0 coyote engine? I also love the rears of the 2015 challenger, and the fact that the 392 will be available in RT trims. Just waiting for pricing and to actually sit and drive those cars before deciding anything.
That 2015 Challenger will be super bad a$$. I wish the Barracuda was brought back. Ha ha ha. I love the Challengers from back in the 70's. Lol. Sometimes its not always about speed. Its the look, the sound, the lines, the image. Hands down the Challenger is the most bad a$$ modern muscle looking car. May not be the fastest or handle the best but that Hemi is totally awesome.

I wouldn't trade my pony in but I sure would like too add a Challenger to my stall. Lol





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Hey pietran30

Thanks for clearing this up. I'm happy it is only friendly banter and not a Hate thing.
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You got to love this. Here is a Challenger with Dukes of Hazard Decals and made to replicate the car. Anybody here see a silly issue with this. Ha ha ha. The Dukes of Hazard car was a freaking Dodge Charger not a Dodge Challenger. Lol

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You got to love this. Here is a Challenger with Dukes of Hazard Decals and made to replicate the car. Anybody here see a silly issue with this. Ha ha ha. The Dukes of Hazard car was a freaking Dodge Charger not a Dodge Challenger. Lol

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That Challenger group sounds like the idiots that were in my Stupid Idiot Corvette club when I was stupid enough to join it. A bunch of idiots that I did not want to be around at all so I gave it up except on track renting days.
What I love about Mustangs is they are mostly owned by "CAR PEOPLE" that not only like their Mustangs but also like other performance cars. JUST PLAIN BETTER CLASS OF PEOPLE.
I belong to a Muscle car club with over 300 members and I have not heard one snob stupid thing said about anybody's car. It is what clubs and Muscle cars are all about. I don't think I would even want a Challenger if that was the only forum around. I do like the car though.
I'll be sticking with my Mustang until it totally falls apart. ( My Corvette Did ) I like all you on this forum and although we don't always agree 100% we still treat each other with respect and do not bad mouth each other or anyone else. Or pick on other makes of Muscle cars.
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I agree with u pretty much except the following statement: "although we don't always agree 100% we still treat each other with respect and do not bad mouth each other or anyone else. "

This is not always true. Actually 9/10 or minimum 4/5 times this isn't true. Just look at some of the flaming shiit that gets posted. I'm as guilty as any but when in Rome do as the Romans.
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You got to love this. Here is a Challenger with Dukes of Hazard Decals and made to replicate the car. Anybody here see a silly issue with this. Ha ha ha. The Dukes of Hazard car was a freaking Dodge Charger not a Dodge Challenger. Lol

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lol... some peoples kids...
Actually the owners are a husband and wife. The husband has a 5.0 and the wife drives the Challenger. Ha ha ha ha.

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Too bad they are heavier and only gained 20 Hp and 10 fptq. New safety

regulations will do that.

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so kinda off subject. I hang out more at one of the other forums but tend to like folks attitudes here more. My ? is this: I've been doing casual cruises 2x a year the one next weekend I'm gonna guess 20 or so cars will show up. Thoughts on inviting folks on Camaro/Chally forums?
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so kinda off subject. I hang out more at one of the other forums but tend to like folks attitudes here more. My ? is this: I've been doing casual cruises 2x a year the one next weekend I'm gonna guess 20 or so cars will show up. Thoughts on inviting folks on Camaro/Chally forums?
I don't think it's a bad idea. I know most of the guys at challengertalk are car enthusiasts who go on all sorts of cruises all the time. Obviously this would depend on the location.

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I'm not a loyalist to any brand, that said I have owned a 2012 RT classic and two 2014 mustang gt's. To me the challenger wins the exterior look hands down. To me the interior is far more comfortable in the mustang and when I'm driving it it is more nimble than the challenger and fun to drive. Challenger is a great looking muscle cruiser but driving feel goes to the mustang. I'm seeing lots of comparisons of GT 5.0's to challengers then when a pic is posted it is a SRT8 model. I think you have to compare apples to apples here. A guy at work recently purchased a new SRT8 challenger, is it a sweet car absolutely. Did he pay about $15k more than my base model GT Brembo yes he did so it better be a sweet car! To me is it worth that much more, no but to each his own. It's all in what you want, here in the Midwest I won't drive mine year round it's a nice weather fun car so I don't need all the fluff like heated seats and nav. Maybe if I lived in Cali or Florida and drove it year round it would be worth it but for me pound for pound the GT 5.0 is the best offering out there in the muscle car class.
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so kinda off subject. I hang out more at one of the other forums but tend to like folks attitudes here more. My ? is this: I've been doing casual cruises 2x a year the one next weekend I'm gonna guess 20 or so cars will show up. Thoughts on inviting folks on Camaro/Chally forums?
You're on the wrong forum bud. Perhaps check to see if PonyCarsEvolution.com exists lol.

But it could be cool though to cruise with Challargers and Corvaros I guess at least until the first diner we stop by for lunch and then all hell breaks loose and we start doing donuts in the parking lot and 1/4 miles runs down the service roads and pound each others faces in making claims of which car is best. Jk.

My next car will either be the SVT Mustang or a new Corvette Z06. 2.5 yrs to start saving lol.
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I agree. The 5.0 is the muscle car perfected. It's easy to mod and fast as Hell off the lot. I hope the new car doesn't lose that mustang feel.
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Best description of a challenger (392) yet. A nice cruiser but not good
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I'm a Mopar-head that will be joining the other side as soon as I've done my mustang homework. It's a lot of reading to do before buying. The SRT8s I know from the inside and out - but this is a whole new world opening up for me.
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I'm a Mopar-head that will be joining the other side as soon as I've done my mustang homework. It's a lot of reading to do before buying. The SRT8s I know from the inside and out - but this is a whole new world opening up for me.
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Thanks. The new Coyote engine seems to be a power house begging for forced induction
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Challenger VS Mustang

I just traded a 2010 RT Classic in Hemi Orange w/25kmiles. They’re totally different carswith 2 different purposes. Here’s my 02(keep in mind I’m not racing either)

Challengerover the Mustang

· To me and this is totally subjective – TheChallenger is the best looking car on the road period except for maybe the newVette

· Challenger has a real trunk

· Challenger has a real back seat



ChallengerDrawbacks

· It handles like a box car

· Dash board = Dash Bored



Mustang overthe Challenger

· Its way quicker

· It handles much better

· It stops much better

· Better interior



MustangDrawbacks

· Back seat is a joke

· Trunk is a joke



End of the day, I don’t have a bad word to say about theChallenger. I would have not traded itin unless I got the GT Convertible which I did. The RT and the GT are twodifferent cars. The RT is more of agrand touring car that looks great. For a “sports car” its extremely roomy andhas a real trunk. I’d go cross countryin the RT in a NY Minute. I’ve ownedVettes, Camaro Z28s, SS, etc.. The RTcouldn’t run twisties with them. The GT– its nimble, its quick – ITS FAST (big difference), it handles better, itstops better but at the end of the day, its barely a 2+2. It’s a 2 seaterunless your passengers are Lilliputians.

With that all said – do I miss my RT/C, yes I do. Am I thrilled with my GT Convertible – Hellyeah! Would I do it again, in aheartbeat (can I say heartbeat here? Lol)…
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Though I'm a Mustang guy through and through, that has not stopped me from lusting over various iterations of Camaros or Challengers. I do like the looks of the Challenger, it really is a good looking car. But I was coming from an FR-S, and I had a really hard time reconciling the weight of the Challenger when I had spent the last year thinking "lightness is goodness". But I could never get a Challenger, I have a Mopar friend who would kill me...literally, if I got one. He's been wanting one for awhile and if I got one first he'd have my head.

He doesn't give two ****s about my Mustang, so it all worked out.
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Challenger VS Mustang

I just traded a 2010 RT Classic in Hemi Orange w/25kmiles. They’re totally different carswith 2 different purposes. Here’s my 02(keep in mind I’m not racing either)

Challengerover the Mustang

· To me and this is totally subjective – TheChallenger is the best looking car on the road period except for maybe the newVette

· Challenger has a real trunk

· Challenger has a real back seat



ChallengerDrawbacks

· It handles like a box car

· Dash board = Dash Bored



Mustang overthe Challenger

· Its way quicker

· It handles much better

· It stops much better

· Better interior



MustangDrawbacks

· Back seat is a joke

· Trunk is a joke



End of the day, I don’t have a bad word to say about theChallenger. I would have not traded itin unless I got the GT Convertible which I did. The RT and the GT are twodifferent cars. The RT is more of agrand touring car that looks great. For a “sports car” its extremely roomy andhas a real trunk. I’d go cross countryin the RT in a NY Minute. I’ve ownedVettes, Camaro Z28s, SS, etc.. The RTcouldn’t run twisties with them. The GT– its nimble, its quick – ITS FAST (big difference), it handles better, itstops better but at the end of the day, its barely a 2+2. It’s a 2 seaterunless your passengers are Lilliputians.

With that all said – do I miss my RT/C, yes I do. Am I thrilled with my GT Convertible – Hellyeah! Would I do it again, in aheartbeat (can I say heartbeat here? Lol)…


All good points but only one car has a galloping horse on the grill ....
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It is two different cars.

A Mustang is a Mustang.
A Challenger is a Dodge.

These cars are not even close enough to compare to each other.
It is like this:
Get the one you would like to have. You either want a Mustang to really enjoy driving and owning. Or you want the Challenger because it looks so great.
Both cars are sooooo different from each other that you really can't compare them.
Why even try?

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If it won any races ever, they would call it the Dodge "Winner" and not the "challenger", wouldn't they? Lol
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Challenger owner here... Convince me to buy a Mustang!

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Challenger VS Mustang

I just traded a 2010 RT Classic in Hemi Orange w/25kmiles. They’re totally different carswith 2 different purposes. Here’s my 02(keep in mind I’m not racing either)

Challengerover the Mustang

· To me and this is totally subjective – TheChallenger is the best looking car on the road period except for maybe the newVette

· Challenger has a real trunk

· Challenger has a real back seat



ChallengerDrawbacks

· It handles like a box car

· Dash board = Dash Bored



Mustang overthe Challenger

· Its way quicker

· It handles much better

· It stops much better

· Better interior



MustangDrawbacks

· Back seat is a joke

· Trunk is a joke



End of the day, I don’t have a bad word to say about theChallenger. I would have not traded itin unless I got the GT Convertible which I did. The RT and the GT are twodifferent cars. The RT is more of agrand touring car that looks great. For a “sports car” its extremely roomy andhas a real trunk. I’d go cross countryin the RT in a NY Minute. I’ve ownedVettes, Camaro Z28s, SS, etc.. The RTcouldn’t run twisties with them. The GT– its nimble, its quick – ITS FAST (big difference), it handles better, itstops better but at the end of the day, its barely a 2+2. It’s a 2 seaterunless your passengers are Lilliputians.

With that all said – do I miss my RT/C, yes I do. Am I thrilled with my GT Convertible – Hellyeah! Would I do it again, in aheartbeat (can I say heartbeat here? Lol)…

So in conclusion from this is that the Challenger is basically a luxury car now and not a real muscle car.............

Well that crosses the Challenger off the Pony car list.

The Challenger is a great car, but if you are looking for performance you just won't get it from one of them. If I wanted something nice to cruise in and look good without really pushing the car to its limits then the Challenger would be the choice.

Different strokes for different folks.
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:56 AM   #174
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The challenger has a pretty nice exhaust, but the interior is the same for the dodge caliber and avenger.

To me a car is more than performance but also an experience you get into every day. I love unlocking my car and seeing the glowing pony on the ground, the blue glowing interior lights, and the growl when it starts. It's like "get ready for the best damn drive you ever had."

Now I've driven everything from old 6th gen evo's to lotus Elise's, and this car doesn't handle like them. Truth is this car is an occasion. It's a reason to wake up in the morning. It's something you gotta live with and keep for a long time.

When I drove my friends challenger, I didn't get any of the pomp and theater, and definately didn't get the performance.

Going to a mustang you will be happy, trust me. It just feels right, that mix of modern, menace, and heritage refinement.
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:35 AM   #175
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I prefer the look of the GT over the Challenger or the Camaro. I have never driven the GM or Mopar so I don't know how I'd feel about that.

Basically, I feel like they are all very similar and it comes down to personal choice. I could care less if I am faster (stock ) than the SS or the R/T because I don't race it anyway. I like the power of the GT but I am sure I would like the power of the SS or R/T as well.
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