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Old 06-11-2014, 08:01 PM   #1
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Tire slip on soft corner with 2014 GT?

Hey guys, first post here!

So I just bought my GT a little over a week ago, and couldn't be happier! First real muscle car I've ever owned, I've usually been an import guy (I had the 300zx, the g35, and the 350z all before I was 22) but after I got into the mustang at the dealership, I was sold!

So I was hoping you guys could help me out with a little problem I had earlier today. I know by driving it, the stang is a pretty heavy car and takes a little more care to turn than my old Z, but I was having some weird tire slip issues on a very soft turn earlier.

So scenario is, some teen kid pulls up beside me in some Shelby truck and yells some stuff at me. Naturally, I ain't bout to let that go down like that, so we go at it and hit maybe 95 on the street, I decelerate to about 60-70 right before I hit a VERY soft turn (I'm talkin about like maybe a 15-20 degree turn) and all of a sudden I feel my tires start to slip like crazy. I handled it without an issue but that wasn't something I felt in my z unless I was going like 110 or it was raining.

So I guess my question is, is this a mustang thing or is the car just to heavy to go around pretty much any turn at that speed? Does anyone else have this problem? Oh and I was in sport mode btw. Any answers would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Also, if anyone could give me a little advice on some starter mods for my new car that'd be great! Thanks guys : )
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First off, anything that can remotely be considered street racing will get you a warning, then banned if you continue.

The slip was probably just from the crappy factory suspension and tires, also, if you were braking while turning, that may have had something to do with it. Probably just the crap suspension and tires from the factory though.

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Yeah the tires are stock, I didn't kno the stock suspension sucked so much, Im definitely gunna get that changed
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Stock suspension doesn't suck too much. Just gotta know how to use it right.
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I think it does, the pirelli tires do suck real bad though. I'm looking for a different tire when u have to change. Anyone know any good 275/40/19 A/S tires?

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I'm lookin right now for some new tires. I'm keeping the pony rims tho! Lol
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I think it does, the pirelli tires do suck real bad though. I'm looking for a different tire when u have to change. Anyone know any good 275/40/19 A/S tires?

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Not sure they are all season but continental dw get great reviews for the money!
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I know several summer tires I could get, but since I'll be in DC, I don't really want the hassle of changing every 6-8 or so months.

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The dw's are summer tires... but the dws is all season, I hope they have the tire size I want. Then I'll get them when these need to be replaced.

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The "zero" in P-Zero stands for the amount of traction it has.
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The "zero" in P-Zero stands for the amount of traction it has.
Exactly, they are awful, I've broke traction so many times I can't count it.

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OP if you want better handling then start off with better tires, then get lowering springs, adjustable Panhard Bar, then Rear Lower Control Arms to start.
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OP if you want better handling then start off with better tires, then get lowering springs, adjustable Panhard Bar, then Rear Lower Control Arms to start.
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Anyone know any good 275/40/19 A/S tires?
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3
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Could be the crap tires or the soft stock suspension. Could also be lift-off oversteer, or misreading an apex....or advancetrak kicking in because it detected things were getting squirrelly.

Best advice is to not hoon around on public roads - do it on a track where you've got some room for error (instead of ending up nose first into light post or someone's living room). You've got a nice car, keep her that way!
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I know if you hit a bump with the solid axle these cars have it feels totally different that anything else. The car will "step" out a bit but you just have to get used to it. I have never actually lost traction except for that split second it "hops" cause of the live axle.
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Agree on Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3. I replaced some DSW's. Huge improvement. The DSWs are super-stiff. I actually think the bent my rims. The Michelin handles better, grips better, rides better. Not sure how it does all that... But it blew the DSW away!
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Agree on Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3. I replaced some DSW's. Huge improvement. The DSWs are super-stiff. I actually think the bent my rims. The Michelin handles better, grips better, rides better. Not sure how it does all that... But it blew the DSW away!
Just looked at it... but dang it's expensive, retail is $376 a tire...

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I know if you hit a bump with the solid axle these cars have it feels totally different that anything else. The car will "step" out a bit but you just have to get used to it. I have never actually lost traction except for that split second it "hops" cause of the live axle.
Anyone know if a watts link will cure this?


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You currently have the stock P Zero, or Zero Nero? One is the summer tire, the other is all-season.
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Just looked at it... but dang it's expensive, retail is $376 a tire...

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I think you were looking at the Pilot Sport 3.
The Pilot Sport A/S3 are under 285ish a tire for your size at tirerack.


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Anyone know if a watts link will cure this?
It will certainly help a lot, but not completely cure it.
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Anyone had experience with the Continental DW? I'm looking at those as my next tire because of their reviews and price. As far as the wheel slip, I would blame it on the suspension. I have stock p zero tires now and I got my suspension done and they don't handle too bad.
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I've been looking at the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3, and some Hankook's

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Hankooks, really? Which ones? I've never considered them. Haven't even looked which ones might be good lol.
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Tire slip on soft corner with 2014 GT?

Mickey Thompson has some 305/35/20s out. Anyone have them or know anyone that have them?

They're 35 aspect but I was looking for 25 or 30s. Not sure if the 35s change the weight enough to make it a bad decision.

I'm not going to FI the car but it currently puts out 423rwhp. Right now I have Nitto 555s 285/30/20s and they're crap. Mainly cuz 285s in these run closer to 265/275 than 285s.

How much would this affect my acceleration due to additional inertial mass?

But I do have to say these Nittos last a long time. I've put 24k miles on them and they still got at least 8k miles left maybe.
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S3
Absolutely - I tested a lot of expensive sets of Z rated tires. This is the best I found, under all conditions (including cold weather). They are the best compromise, and I already have 4 on order since last week.

The factory tires are a shame. And they rapidly get worse !

BUT : yes, the mustang's rear end has to be managed seriously, compared to other sports cars. My Transams were not as solid as your 300Z under that aspect (I tried 300Z too), but they are definetly easier to drive than the Mustang.
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