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Old 07-08-2014, 09:00 PM   #1
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Gear shifting with 5.0

So i've been driving a 2013 5.0 for about 2 years now and I still do not have a clue how i can get the maximum performance potential from my car during a race. When is the ideal time to shift gears when racing? Like lets say I'm starting at 0 mph and i want to hit 100 as fast as possible? I know that at a certain rmp, your car hits maximum acceleration, and after that, it starts to accelerate slower. What rpm would that be exactly? I have an automatic by the way, so i am not too sure whether it would be faster in sport shift mode, or manually shifting the gears myself. I apologize for sounding like such a novice driver, but its been killing me. I tried racing a 2.0 genesis coupe (tuned and had full bolt ons but still quite embarrassing) at a 40mph rolling start and I ended up losing because i didn't shift gears properly. So any tips?


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If a stock tune, it will be fastest to put in Sport mode and floor it and let it shift. If you have a aftermarket tune, the reverse is true, put in "D" and just floor it; as they put the transmission part of the tune in the "D" mode as they so far cannot access the "Sport" mode shift tables.

An MPT tune will rock your tranny and shift hard and crisp which ironically is best for the tranny from slow slipping to be comfortable shifting.
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I agree with artu. I would have the car do the shifting.

If you aren't tuned yet and are thinking about it look up Mike rousch. Lots of the auto guys are going to him and rightly so bc he's does work with the autos. Remember nothing can shift faster then a computer.

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Would u recommend getting a sf3 bama tune?


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The power curve of a stock 5.0 engine starts dipping at 6500-6800rpm. You probably lost to the Genesis cuz you tried to self shift yourself out of optimal acceleration. A stock GT is fast but it doesn't mean it'll beat the doors off everything out there. Even a Civic can be an 11 second car with some mods.

You also were probably in a higher gear being an auto and even though you floored the pedal there's a slight delay as the tranny downshifted. I'm guessing the Genesis was a manual so it was already in second when you guys took off. That's why he won. He had the jump.

So next time you do a rolling 40mph start on a race track just do what you're supposed to do with an auto... floor it.
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Would u recommend getting a sf3 bama tune?
No. See below. Mike Rousch is the go to guy currently for a tune on an auto.
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I agree with artu. I would have the car do the shifting.

If you aren't tuned yet and are thinking about it look up Mike rousch. Lots of the auto guys are going to him and rightly so bc he's does work with the autos.
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No. See below. Mike Rousch is the go to guy currently for a tune on an auto.

And how would i get in contact with him exactly?


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Besides Mike, I would also recommend MPT tunes for autos and specify the hard street shifting. It made my 3.7 /Auto really shift like it should. The Bamma tune was only OK, this really made the Auto transmission get down, which is the same one you have in your GT. Made the engine really pull as well.

http://www.morepowertuning.com/mustang

Autos seem to need a tune, the MT82 in the GT Coyote I have now I haven't need to tune it gets down just fine and gets same MPG I was getting out of my Tuned and 3.55 geared 3.7 Cyclone. Maybe later or next year I get the Track Key Ghost Cam tune from Ford for the fun of it.
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Don't forget about Lund for tuning a Coyote/driveline combo.

Get the auto tuned, put it in D and floor it. If you want even better 60 ft times have an aftermarket stall converter put in, do the UCA, LCAs, relocation brackets, suspension and a good set of tires.

Also there is a pretty good twin turbo kit out for the Coyote and a turbo kit on the Coyote A6 works spectacularly well. When I eventually get a Coyote it is for sure going to be an auto. Once you start getting serious with the mods the A6 wtfpwns the M6 in 1/4 mile racing.
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John Lund is also an excellent choice.
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Ive got a manual shift with tune intake exhaust and I was told by the guy that tuned mine around (who has tuned several and also owns one) to shift around 6800 rpm, anything over 7k and your losing power.


also, do yourself a favor and get a cai and a tune, power band is much, much better and you don't have to even wind it out as far to pull harder with them
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Customer service is important so, from researching the names mentioned here over several months, I'd go with Mike Rousch. He responds...No big ego, and is actually interested in the outcome of your project. This is all from observation and one experience with a popular tuner mentioned albeit, I must have caught him on a bad day.
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