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Old 07-26-2014, 11:54 PM   #1
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Suspension help

okay so I'm looking into suspension now and i am wondering about all the parts i could/should upgrade now i have heard that lower control arms should help with traction and lowering springs need more to compliment the springs than springs alone? any insight would help greatly.
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There are already hundreds of threads already on this very subject. Time to start reading.
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what are your goals? It all depends on what you want to do with the car that will help me veer you in the right direction.
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There are already hundreds of threads already on this very subject. Time to start reading.
i have searched but didn't find the exact answers i was looking for
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what are your goals? It all depends on what you want to do with the car that will help me veer you in the right direction.
well the car is a daily driver but i plan on taking it to the drag stip here soon so i want to lower it about 1.5 all around and would like to know what all i need for that?

and control arms, are adjustable ones better? if so how would i determine how to adjust them?
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i have searched but didn't find the exact answers i was looking for
LOL sure you did.
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:39 PM   #7
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Suspension questions I made a comment in here that sums up most of your questions.

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^Yep good comment by Coyote5o in that other thread. I just did a 9-part suspension build at home about a month ago and it was definitely worth it.
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LOL sure you did.
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awesome thanks man Ill be reading that.
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No problem, Unfortunately lowering the car isn't as simple as swapping the springs. Though, if you do it right, it'll improve handling, traction, and eliminate wheel hop. Lots of benefits to suspension upgrades

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No problem, Unfortunately lowering the car isn't as simple as swapping the springs. Though, if you do it right, it'll improve handling, traction, and eliminate wheel hop. Lots of benefits to suspension upgrades

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so i know the answer is obvious but would it be a good idea to just update everything at once? there is one question tho idk if i misread on you previous comment on the other thread; should i get all adjustable parts?
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If you're going to lower the car, I'd recommend all at once. The downfall of course being more variables if any issues occur. If you do not lower, I would recommend just the upper and lower control arms. The upper control arm being adjustable, the lower control arms being fixed. Adjustable lowers make things difficult, imagine if the sides are different lengths - you'll be crab walking.

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If you're going to lower the car, I'd recommend all at once. The downfall of course being more variables if any issues occur. If you do not lower, I would recommend just the upper and lower control arms. The upper control arm being adjustable, the lower control arms being fixed. Adjustable lowers make things difficult, imagine if the sides are different lengths - you'll be crab walking.

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awesome ill look into the control arms for now since lowering isn't really an idea in my book. thank you again
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Without lowering the car, the upper and lower control arms will still prevent wheel hop and therefore give more traction. Once you lower it, that's when you need to adjust pinion angle with the upper control arm, adjust the panhard bar to center the diff, get an alignment, and install shocks /struts to handle the higher spring rates and the additional stroke needed to due to being lowered.

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Many people use bmr products. I'd recommend them - they're a bit more expensive than some, but they're awesome

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is there a specific reason people lower there cars? and traction is definitely something I've been in need lately
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Stock ride height is horrible. There's like 5" of wheel gap in the back. So one reason is purely looks. Also, Lower car = lower center of gravity which is beneficial for handling. Stiffer Springs are also beneficial for handling and prevent body roll, brake drive, etc..

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With all of that said, don't expect to launch like a bat out of hell. Tires are the best upgrade you can do for straight line and lateral traction. Most people prefer not to replace their brand new tires though

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Stock tires should be the 1st thing replaced on a new car, the pirelli's are junk. Car should not even be offered with them imo.

First thing I did after driving my car off the lot within the 1st week was suspension, tires , tune

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Tires are always a good upgrade. I don't take my car to the drag strip, so I don't mind roasting the tires.. Figure I'll have some fun and smoke these off before I drop money on new ones,

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yea i have been looking for tires also but i didn't want to buy tires and then wait for them to wear out to buy some wheels. so ill hold on the tires for now. i do agree though the tires aren't to good.

while I'm at it i might as well lower the car too
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Yep, you guys keep yanking those tires off, send em right over to me. So far I've got 7 Pirelli's in excellent condition for a total of $300.

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I got ftd about four times at autocross events with the factory pzeros. They're really not that bad. I love the yoko's I have now, but i wouldn't turn down the oem ones again if I could get them for $100/tire even...

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Stock tires should be the 1st thing replaced on a new car, the pirelli's are junk. Car should not even be offered with them imo.

First thing I did after driving my car off the lot within the 1st week was suspension, tires , tune

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F*ck me for just paying $1100 to get new Nero's...

Axlebacks were the first thing I did on the 2nd day. Then tune and suspension down the road so I feel like a pro
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Heh, JUST scored another full set of PZero's, 2,000 miles on them for $300.

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