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Old 08-03-2014, 04:59 PM   #1
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Help with supercharging!

So in the next month or so im planning on getting either a paxton or vortech supercharger and ive got a couple questions.

Im looking at the kits they have that come with intercooler, injectors, ect. Is there anything else i will need outside of what the kits have to do this right?

Second, it worries me pushing the stock motor to around 600rwhp so can anyone give me any recommendations on what all i should get to build it.

I figure the stock crank is fine as i am looking to be in the 600-700rwhp range eventually. But as far as pistons, rods, hardware and misc. stuff, what do i need and where are good places to buy from?

Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks


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Old 08-03-2014, 05:06 PM   #2
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Stock crank is good for 1500+
You will need pistons
Rods
Billet oil gears
Full ARP hardware

Just get the beefcake special package. It will come with everything you need as far as the blower goes



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Old 08-03-2014, 05:29 PM   #3
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Thanks rapinator i was hoping you would chime in on this.

Is there a specific place thats good to buy pistons, rods, ect from?

Should i stay with stock compression or go lower?

And will i need to get everything balanced with the stock crank?

Sorry if im asking a lot of questions but i just want to do this right the first time.


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Old 08-03-2014, 05:31 PM   #4
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Look at MMR

Stock compression will be fine if you plan on going with e85

If you want to stay 91-93 octane drop the compression down

Yes everything will need to be balanced

It's all good bud. Ask away

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How much am i looking at spending on the engine build? I will be having a shop do install. And is balancing the rotating assembly something a normal performance shop can do?


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How much am i looking at spending on the engine build? I will be having a shop do install. And is balancing the rotating assembly something a normal performance shop can do?


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I spent roughly $6,000 to have mine done
Manley H beams
Diamond pistons
Full ARP hardware
Head work
Billet oil gears.

And it depends on if the performance shop does it directly there or if they send it off.

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Old 08-03-2014, 05:51 PM   #7
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Ok well i appreciate the help man!


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One more thing.. If i decide to not build the motor and just run low boost on 91 oct. will the high compression be a problem at all?

Im getting a good amount of money from a car accident i was in a year ago so it all depends on how much i get.


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No it won't be a problem. You can make 600-630 easily just with 91-93 and a boost a pump.
I would add methanol for a safety blanket though honestly if you stay pump gas.

Or a bottle or 2 of torco in every tank.

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Old 08-03-2014, 06:34 PM   #10
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We are running the Vortech V3 w/ BAP, JLT Performance Intake, brisk plugs on the stock motor and we are making 636rwhp & 469tq tuned on 91octane pump gas. The car is not pushing at all to make those numbers. Our AFR is good and safe as well as our timing is low. We are adding a torque booster this week and will run the 10psi spring in the wastegate. Our top end HP will be a little more, but the torque will increase quite a bit. If you plan on staying under 700rwhp, get the Vortech V3 and if you want to push your motor and spin it over 7300rpm, add billet oil pump gears.
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Sweet thanks guys.

If i run meth would it still be best to have an intercooler as well?

Deerslayer - if i remember right i read through some of your build thread awhile back.. Did you use a Lund tune after you installed your vortech?


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Your going to have a intercooler regardless bud.

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Yes, Lund tuned the car. Could not be happier with the tune and the process they use. Super easy and a very thorough process. The SC already has 5k miles on it and it is a beast. Mid week we will install the torque booster and will only give it the butt dyno. No plans to put this car on back rollers other than maybe at a show or something if there is a cheap pull.
The intercooler these come with are HUGE. No need for meth unless you are planning on going big. For 600rwhp, just get the Beefcake special. You will have no prob getting 600 and be safe on your stock motor

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Yes, Lund tuned the car. Could not be happier with the tune and the process they use. Super easy and a very thorough process. The SC already has 5k miles on it and it is a beast. Mid week we will install the torque booster and will only give it the butt dyno. No plans to put this car on back rollers other than maybe at a show or something if there is a cheap pull.
The intercooler these come with are HUGE. No need for meth unless you are planning on going big. For 600rwhp, just get the Beefcake special. You will have no prob getting 600 and be safe on your stock motor
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