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Old 08-21-2014, 09:33 AM   #36
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I dont really see how there could be any added NVH, especially for those of us that already have aftermarket shifters and brackets, to add to that, I dont think anyone with a stock shifter and bracket would notice any NVH either.........
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I imagine the stock shifter bushing dampens any NVH a decent amount - it was a piece of flimsy rubber after all.. Going from that to a "rigidly" mounted shifter on the transmission will for sure add a bit of NVH. With that said, I think it will be well worth it
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I imagine the stock shifter bushing dampens any NVH a decent amount - it was a piece of flimsy rubber after all.. Going from that to a "rigidly" mounted shifter on the transmission will for sure add a bit of NVH. With that said, I think it will be well worth it
Noise: in the cabin probably, more padding would quiet it down though. Vibration: only in the handle of the shifter, surely not more than what it is now with aftermarket shifters.

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my referance to NVH was from motor mounts.......and for those have have driven the V6 with the wonderful dual mass flywheel vibration I can honestly describe it as feeling like mild rumble strips when you get the decel vibration going.
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I'm expecting little if any increased NVH. The shifter bracket is now completely isolated and no longer in contact with the body of the car. This bracket eliminates one path for transmitting NVH into the structure of the car. I would not be surprised to feel a bit more engine vibration in the shifter handle itself however.

The other advantage is that if one is using the Whiteline bushing to steady the transmission, it could be removed after fitting this bracket. For those folks with that WL bushing fitted, installing this bracket, and removing the WL bushing, might actually improve NVH!

What that bushing stiffener is doing is limiting the amount of relative movement between the body mounted shifter and the transmission. With the bracket linking and aligning the shifter precisely to the tranny, I don't see a need to use the whiteline bushing anymore.
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Old 08-21-2014, 10:39 AM   #42
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I don't see a need to use the whiteline bushing anymore.
This would eliminate the need for that bushing.
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This would eliminate the need for that bushing.
I would like to see a video of just how much that thing flex's or compresses under a load without the bushing and with it

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I wonder if the design will stay the same or a possible update in the future. I have all my goodies sitting in the garage for install next year, so i have no lock out problems at the moment. I just one to wait and see if an update is available before i spend $300.
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Update? Already? It's not even available yet!
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I am just wondering if this is going to be the final product or will it be tweaked in the near future.
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I am just wondering if this is going to be the final product or will it be tweaked in the near future.
This IS the tweaked product. They did beta testing with the original design and took all of the feedback and made some changes. I think this IS and will be the final design. They also have applied for pattens on this one.
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:23 PM   #48
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ok, cool. looks like i am little more in debt.
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Here is a video CJPP put out on it.
Mustang Blowfish Racing Shifter Support Bracket 2…: http://youtu.be/tlEdZ7Ahxd0

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Old 09-02-2014, 02:20 AM   #50
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Cool

Can the MGW heat shield be kept with this bracket? I don't wanna just toss it out. Can it be tweaked (bent, cut, drilled, etc) to fit along with everything? I'm not sure I get why it has to be removed. Someone said something about studs not being long enough on some cars. I really didn't get how it would work on "some" but not others. How would some be different?
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Can the MGW heat shield be kept with this bracket? I don't wanna just toss it out. Can it be tweaked (bent, cut, drilled, etc) to fit along with everything? I'm not sure I get why it has to be removed. Someone said something about studs not being long enough on some cars. I really didn't get how it would work on "some" but not others. How would some be different?
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:44 AM   #52
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Getting pretty excited! Steve said the brackets start shipping tomorrow . Hopefully get it installed in the next few weeks.. If i dont trade the car in before it arrives that is..
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Getting pretty excited! Steve said the brackets start shipping tomorrow . Hopefully get it installed in the next few weeks.. If i dont trade the car in before it arrives that is..
U can just send it to me if u trade it in!
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Mine will be on my doorstep tomorrow.


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Does this remove the need for the (in my case), Barton 2 piece shifter bracket?

If looks like from the pictures, it includes a shifter bracket...

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Yes, the barton bracket will no longer be needed. It mounts to the body, whereas with this new mount, the bracket essentially is connected to the transmission.

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Just got the USPS email with a tracking #, the package outta be at my door on Saturday. If that's the case, expect an install write-up by Sunday at the latest.
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I ordered on the 11th. Haven't received any kind of notification yet!
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Old 09-04-2014, 04:20 PM   #60
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They might be doing it first come first serve. Mine was ordered on the 6th...

Gettin' anxious to start installing mods again. Saturday is too far away.
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For the MGW is there anything being dumped other than the heat shield?


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Installed mine last night. Let me add that never had a problem with my trans grinding, I just upgraded everything to prevent it in the future. After the install I took my car for a test drive and it is noticeably smoother. With redline mtl, mgw shifter, steel braided clutch line and now the bracket; it is a whole new tans. The notcheyness is almost completely gone. Next summer I will have tons of bolt on's, and Iam totally confident I will not have any issues with this trans.


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I want to add that I left my white line trans mount in and have zero vibration after bracket install.


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Thanks for the early feedback Sadler. Hey, since you have an MGW on there, I wanted to ask you, is there anything else that gets discarded besides the heat shield?


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Here is MORE improvement for the MT82!

Nope, just the heat shield. All you do is flip the mgw bracket and bolt it to the supplied adapter.


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Getting my hands on a beta one used for testing! Can't wait to try it out!
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Old 09-16-2014, 08:18 AM   #68
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OK, here's the write-up as promised. It's a bit lengthy, but I try to be thorough.

I've had this installed for about a week. I waited this long to post so I had time to really put it through it's paces - I didn't want to do a half-a$$ed review.
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In the box & install
First off, it is important to point out that I have a fair amount of other transmission work done. MGW shifter, a recent RP fluid swap, and a whiteline trans bushing. I've also removed the clutch assist spring (fwiw, it has little to do with gear selection in my mind).

Install was straightforward. The mgw adapter in the kit mates directly to the two post MGW piece that sits on the 'snout'. You do have to pull that part off, scrape off the RTV, and mount it upside down so it works with this kit though. It makes sense - you want the shifter setup mated to the transmission, not to the floor pan.

The parts were of good quality (these were excellent welds ). I'm usually not a fan of anodized blue finishes but this looked well done. The included instructions were easy enough to follow (with bolt torque ratings!) but it got confusing flipping back and forth between pages to look at diagrams.
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The testing & thoughts
With first start-up, the first thing you notice is that you now have direct feel of your transmission through the shifter. You can feel the driveline's vibration - I couldn't before. The actual shifting is the same as it was with just the MGW - this makes sense, as the linkage didn't change much on mine. It will very likely make things more firmer and notchier on a stock or non-mgw setup.

Driving with it is nice. You can directly feel the transmission speed through the shifter at all times - this is important to me, as I prefer to use engine vibration and sound as indicators of when I should shift.

Over the last week, I've horsed around quite a bit with it. This includes quite a few launches and 1-2 // 2-3 WOT shifts plus powershifts plus hard downshifts. I also did quite a bit of revmatch gear floating for good measure.

Before, even with the MGW I was missing maybe 1 or 2 out of every 10 hard shifts. The MGW is miles ahead of the stock setup, too. I'm glad to say that I'm about 35 launches in and I've yet to miss one. 1-2nd is always always always in the same spot, and this is true for the 2-3rd shift also. It's one hell of a thing to always be able to bang into the next gear and KNOW it's going right in - the guesswork and hoping is gone. It just does it's job. Every time. Without fail.

Highway downshifts are also a lot more firm (6th to 3rd, 6th to 4th). Before, there was a fair chance that it was going to fight me going into that gear even with a good revmatch. Now, it just does it's damn job and goes into gear without any fuss. I still prefer to revmatch to make life easier on my driveline, but it'll still downshift easy without it.

According to trackapps I'm laying down consistent 4.2-4.3 0-60s. Before, it would do a 4.3 but that was after maybe 5 or 6 attempts that got screwed because the shift got botched. Now, it'll do it every time without fuss. Keep in mind my mods (no suspension work yet) and the fact I'm on the Pzeros (aka zero traction)
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Comparison to my other projects
I do a lot of car work with my buddies. We've built old fox mustangs, LT1 'maros, LS1 'birds, LS2 goats, a few EVOS, an SRT4 or two, a handful of 300Zs (and one 350Z). I'd like to think that I have a good grasp on what a properly set up car is like. You might disagree, that's alright also.

With this bracket, the MT82 feels like a well setup T-56 out of the LT1/LS1 F bodies. We even got out of the mustang and into my buddies built-up LS1 to compare the shifter feel (he's got a hurst StS)...I think the feel is about as identical as it can get.
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Thoughts on the necessity of other mods
This all being said, I still think it's a good call to invest in a good fluid swap and an aftermarket shifter setup. I wouldn't bother with a barton two-post or whatever - remember, this set up replaces the assembly that holds the 'snout' in place, so don't waste your money & time. I wonder, though, if the whiteline transmission bushing is still worth it...it does firm up the transmission's connection to the car's frame (thus, less total driveline deflection) but maybe it's not as necessary as before? I'd like to hear some of yall's thoughts on that.
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Finish 3.5/5 (not usually a fan of blue, having color choices is a good idea. The workmanship was excellent)
Performance 5/5 (it makes every other transmission mod that much more effective)
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Excellent writeup Rynarok. This mod definately gets rid of the need of a Barton rear mount bracket. I still believe that the MGW Shifter along with the Blowfish mount is absolutely the way to go. The Whiteline bushing is not needed any more either IMHO. It is stiffer and is supposed to decrease the deflection angle between the trans and your shifter which now is set and not an issue. I would think the OEM bushing would better pair with this setup to POSSIBLY decrease some NVH. This setup will definately give your car the feel that most racers want/need. Though it is powder coated Blue, I painted the one I got Red since all of our suspension mods are Red.

Blowfish had 200 of these made in the first run. They sold all of those within a day or so. The others that got to the party a little late, will get theres pretty quick as they started making more pretty quickly. Big kudos to Steve @ Blowfish for coming up and producing this part. It is pretty obviously a popular and effective part for M6 Mustangs.


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Awesome write up. I've wanted to wait to read people's reviews before I got one and this is exactly what I was looking for. Can't wait to get one.
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