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Old 08-15-2014, 02:51 PM   #1
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Niche Verona 10.5 on 2013?

Can someone please help me with my dilema ? i have a 2013 stock GT, no Brimbo breaks. Can i run 10.5s in the rear with no rubbing issues against the fender, shocks and springs? All info regarding this will definiteley help me decide on the rims and tires i need. I am running low on Rubber. See below for more details on rims.

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A 10.5 most likely isn't offered in the offset you need.

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There's a kid I know of running a 10.5 in the rear on just lowering springs and he doesn't rub at all or have any issues. They are going to stick out passed the fender though without any camber adjustment. Wont look too great without a full suspension setup and proper offset in my opinion..


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2" drop will require a LCA relocation bracket. The offset will probably be around +35 on a 10.5" rim.
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Just a heads up, my buddy has the veronas and he had to send them back because the paint was peeling on them. They're making good on it by sending him new ones but still I thought I'd let you know.


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I'm on 20x11 rears and also about 2 inches lower than stock. My offset is around 55 though. With that much there tucked 100% and fit perfect
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I'm on 20x11 rears and also about 2 inches lower than stock. My offset is around 55 though. With that much there tucked 100% and fit perfect
Yes 55 offset but what size rims and how wide. Also what size tires? You could run 11" wide 20" rims and run 295/30/20 so you won't be rubbing. But if you try and fit 305/35/20 you might rub because its further out offset and the profile is higher than 30 so the tires are a bit taller and wider.
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I don't think a two inch drop requires lca relocation.... I'm atleast four inches lower than stock and I'm completely fine haha just an adjustable panhard bar in the rear to square everything up and I haven't had any issues.


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I don't think a two inch drop requires lca relocation.... I'm atleast four inches lower than stock and I'm completely fine haha just an adjustable panhard bar in the rear to square everything up and I haven't had any issues.


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Too little specs are being provided. 2" drop does not require a relocation bracket if:

1.) You don't care about wheel hop due to the LCA being maligned after the drop

2.) You run 285 or even 295 depending on the tire. Nitto runs narrower than normal so even their 305 won't be an issue but typically if you run 305 or higher on 20" then rubbing might become an issue with the LCA.

It really depends on the specs of tires, rims, and suspension set up. You can't make a blanket statement saying you don't need this or that without knowing the exact configuration.

For ex: Joe said he slammed his stang at least 4" but he never stated his tire or wheel size or offset. You can easily slam a stang all the way to the ground with 255 stock tires and rims no problem but if you start putting 325-335 on there then it becomes a problem.

Honestly, the OP hasn't checked back in with more info about his intended setup so its gonna be real hard to say what works or not.
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Too little specs are being provided. 2" drop does not require a relocation bracket if:

1.) You don't care about wheel hop due to the LCA being maligned after the drop

2.) You run 285 or even 295 depending on the tire. Nitto runs narrower than normal so even their 305 won't be an issue but typically if you run 305 or higher on 20" then rubbing might become an issue with the LCA.

It really depends on the specs of tires, rims, and suspension set up. You can't make a blanket statement saying you don't need this or that without knowing the exact configuration.

For ex: Joe said he slammed his stang at least 4" but he never stated his tire or wheel size or offset. You can easily slam a stang all the way to the ground with 255 stock tires and rims no problem but if you start putting 325-335 on there then it becomes a problem.

Honestly, the OP hasn't checked back in with more info about his intended setup so its gonna be real hard to say what works or not.


Thanks for all your info. I just don't want any issues after I purchase the set. im going with 20X10.5 / +35 OFFSET / 4.5" CONCAVE with NITTOS 295/35/20. You think I will be ok? this is a 2013 base model GT.
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Thanks for all your info. I just don't want any issues after I purchase the set. im going with 20X10.5 / +35 OFFSET / 4.5" CONCAVE with NITTOS 295/35/20. You think I will be ok? this is a 2013 base model GT.
I would feel more comfortable if the offset is +40 as AM had recommended to you but a +35 and 285/35/20 would fit with no problem.

I assume you're getting the Nitto Invo 295/35/20. Nitto runs a bit narrow so I would say you're ok.

With a +35 offset the mounting surface of the hub is pushed less further out from the centerline of the wheel than my +45 or the stock brembo rims of +42. So if you start running 305 or fatter you may run into some issues of it rubbing on the outer fender lip especially with a 2" drop or 4" drop like Joe's.

My 305/35/20 clears the outer fender barely at +45 offset
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Thanks for all your info. I just don't want any issues after I purchase the set. im going with 20X10.5 / +35 OFFSET / 4.5" CONCAVE with NITTOS 295/35/20. You think I will be ok? this is a 2013 base model GT.


I am no expert on Wheel offsets by any means what so ever. However, knowing what I know about mine I have to throw the yellow flag. I know my 20x11 fit 100% perfectly with +55 and I can't figure out how what you're describing could work? People do +35 offset on 9.5 inch RTR wheels. a 10.5 wheel would go another inch past the well.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes 55 offset but what size rims and how wide. Also what size tires? You could run 11" wide 20" rims and run 295/30/20 so you won't be rubbing. But if you try and fit 305/35/20 you might rub because its further out offset and the profile is higher than 30 so the tires are a bit taller and wider.




I do have a 305-35-20 and there is zero rubbing issue at all. And my car is down 2 inches.




Here are some quick cell phone pictures to show how they fit.










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I do have a 305-35-20 and there is zero rubbing issue at all. And my car is down 2 inches.




Here are some quick cell phone pictures to show how they fit.










Comparing the relative location of the mounting surface of the hub between your +55 and the OPs +35. His +35 is sticking out another 20mm outwards toward the outside. So no his setup will most likely rub on anything bigger than 295/30/20. He wants Nitto 295 and knowing that Nitto runs small those 295 are closer to 280/285. That may work but like I said its better if the offset was at least +40 if not more like +45.

Again if he's running a true to size 295/30/20 then it'll probably rub. But a Nitto may not.
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I was instructed by a representative with the California Wheels and Tires that a 20X10.5 with 35+ Offset on 285/30/20 tires wheel work just fine, as this is what they installed on a previous car exactly like mine. I placed my order with this set up so hopefully I do not run into any problems. I will post some pics as soon as I have them installed.
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I was instructed by a representative with the California Wheels and Tires that a 20X10.5 with 35+ Offset on 285/30/20 tires wheel work just fine, as this is what they installed on a previous car exactly like mine. I placed my order with this set up so hopefully I do not run into any problems. I will post some pics as soon as I have them installed.
Why did you go with a 30 series sidewall? Don't hit any pot holes bc you are going to be on a rubber band

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awwww man. This is why I posted for help here. Everyone just turned my post into pissing matches hahahaha.
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awwww man. This is why I posted for help here. Everyone just turned my post into pissing matches hahahaha.
Just be careful with them bud. it's a small sidewall. But they will look real good if you are lowered

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awwww man. This is why I posted for help here. Everyone just turned my post into pissing matches hahahaha.


No ones having a pissing match. I think we all agree that you're needing more OS than what they're telling you.


Again, I'm not a wheel offset expert by any means. I'm only commenting because this stuff is fresh in my head because I just bought wheels. The RTR wheel is 9.5 inches wide and advertised at 35+. Your wheel is an inch wider with the same offset. The math isn't computing. I would think your set up will stick out from the fender?
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Just be careful with them bud. it's a small sidewall. But they will look real good if you are lowered

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Oh yeah, I'm with this guy (weird ). a 30 series sidewall is pretty small. Mine are 35 and it's not a very "plush" ride. If your car isn't lowered pretty good it's going to create a lot of gap in the well.
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I did not get the Veronas, I chose the STR 607 with a 40+offset with 10. in the rear. Seems to be sticking out a bit from the fender. You guys think is an ok fit?
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that's a 10.5 in the rear sorry.
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I did not get the Veronas, I chose the STR 607 with a 40+offset with 10. in the rear. Seems to be sticking out a bit from the fender. You guys think is an ok fit?

That's EXACTLY the wheel I want dude. Any more pics? I'm assuming you're not lowered....?

I actually like the fitment, looks BA. What's the wheel size? 20?

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We tried to tell you. You needed + 50
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yes you did. But looks ok and I have no rubbing issues.
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Not lowered yet. Here are the exact wheels and tires I got.


STR 607 Gunmetal
20X9 30+ Offset Front, with Nittos NT555 (255/35/20)
20x10.5 40+ Offset Rear, with Nittos INVO (295/35/20)


No rubbing issues. I would have liked for the wheel to stay inside the fender so make sure you have a higher positive Offset if that is what you want. I will post more pics in the sunlight soon.
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Well that's the best part. As long as you're happy. Wheels can be a real pain. I'm on my second set now and I think I'm happy.

Post up some side shots so we can check them out
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Mine are very close to the outer fenders with a lot of os. Be careful when lowering yours and have someone watch while you drive slow. Choose your lowering job carefully. I'm down around 2 inches
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I will get some pictures and when ready for a drop, I will come for suggestions. thanks.
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I'm lowered about 1.5 inches and I'd be real curious to see if I'd rub...is the 10.5 variation the super concave variation out back? See I don't want 20's. I know they make them in 19's as well, but I have about a year to think about it lol. I shored up my suspension this year. Next year it's wheels and go fast mods.


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Here are the pics. Wheels are awesome but will not be able to drop it. It looks nice though.
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Looks great!


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Here are the pics. Wheels are awesome but will not be able to drop it. It looks nice though.
Why can't u drop it? Is the clearance that tight? You can try to roll the fenders if they're off by a few millimeters.


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I can do a 1/2" drop, possibly 1".
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