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Old 09-05-2014, 01:44 PM   #1
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MGW or Barton for an MT-82 replacement?

I have a 2014 GT/CS and as everyone else I too have the lockout issue where from 2nd to 3rd just wont happen under a heavy load.

I was looking at this:
MT-82 SHORT THROW SHIFTER

But after digging around the forums it looks like people either went with a Barton or MGW. From what i gathered it looks like the Barton also needs the bracket for better shifter positioning but people who got the MGW setup claim they seldom experience a lockout.

I'd like to know from both sides how often you experience a lockout under a heavy load?
Im looking to make a decision by the end of this weekend (hopefully)
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:54 PM   #2
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Ide say you cant go wrong with either one. I went with the barton jus because its a little cheaper. I already have the 2post bracket which helped a lot and the shifter will be here today so ill let you know how i like it


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I have the mgw I haven't experienced any lock with mine, I have had mine for 3 months now. Great feel great look, it is more expensive than the Barton but you get a complete set up with mgw. I have the gripper shifter cause I like the feel of it. I also have the pony knob just like the gripper better. Click image for larger version

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how long did it take for the setup? the gripper 6 speed knob is what i was looking at too.
I know the cost would be less for the Barton but i kind of want everything to be together. I plan on keeping this Mustang for a long while.


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I have the mgw I haven't experienced any lock with mine, I have had mine for 3 months now. Great feel great look, it is more expensive than the Barton but you get a complete set up with mgw. I have the gripper shifter cause I like the feel of it. I also have the pony knob just like the gripper better. Attachment 165263


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It took him about 1hr with a lift.


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Shifts are short enough with the factory piece (IMO). So I just used the Barton two post bracket AND the Whiteline lower crossmember insert. The Whiteline insert prevents excessive movement under heavy load, and IMO did the most to improve the shifts. The Barton two post bracket cleaned up the gates, and gave the shifter a more direct and precise feeling.

Expect increased NVH, but its worth it.
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Old 09-05-2014, 04:42 PM   #7
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No lockout from 3rd with my MGW and I've had it for about 6 months.
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I have the MGW shifter and I haven't experience any lockout from 2nd to 3rd. I did have some problems shifting from 1st to 2nd but it was because of the way I was shifting. I have had it for 2 months and shifts like butter. It took me three hours to install without a lifter and only using jack stands.

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Here's a picture of my shifter.

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Here's a picture of my shifter.

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the setup looks nearly stock, it has that "right at home look"
I think ive made up my mind and am going with the MGW setup first along with the replacement bushing.

Thanks to everyone for being helpful!
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It's not the shifter,it's the clutch,replace it and all problems will go away

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From all the research Ive done ive decided to go with the mgw as well.

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Old 09-08-2014, 09:49 AM   #13
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pretty sure everyones saying shifter, and i feel like its the shifter too. 15k miles and not a single problem with the clutch. Ford just made a crappy shifter is all with a terrible mount is all.

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From all the research Ive done ive decided to go with the mgw as well.

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same here, ive PMed a few people on here with the MGW and they all said the same thing about it and ive made my choice to go with the MGW as well.
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I put an MGW in my 14 GT and haven't had anymore issues like I did with the sloppy stock setup. Only slight increase in NVH, best kit on the market, you won't regret it.


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Yep. I did the MGW as well. Very expensive but it is my favorite mod thus far.


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MGW Shifter + Blowfish Bracket = good as the MT82 gets
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MGW, best shifter available and I had the Steeda shifter before.
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The mgw does a little more than the barton and 2 post bracket but it's emotion as to which one is best. Based on posts here neither really 'fixes' the problem. Apparently the blowfish bracket does address this issue. At that point stock, or aftermarket shifters are improved to where it should have been from the factory...




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Replacing the entire crap stock box is more than just "a little more". No emotion, just fact.
After looking up the blowfish, it should completely eliminate any lockout due to shifter/Trans movement. If you race, it's a no brainer as it doubles as a drive shaft loop.
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So should I try out the blow fish bracket first?
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I have had the Barton setup with bracket for quite some time now on the 2014 haven't had any issues even power shifting no lockouts to date (granted I do not abuse daily) but not the first issue in the past owned both MGW and Barton just a personal choice both are great shifters well made.
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I have had the Barton setup with bracket for quite some time now on the 2014 haven't had any issues even power shifting no lockouts to date (granted I do not abuse daily) but not the first issue in the past owned both MGW and Barton just a personal choice both are great shifters well made.
I really don't feel like its my shifter, when I shift under a heavy load it feels like the tranny moves around ALOT. I wanted to try the blowfish bracket first to see how much it eliminates that and if I have to then I could spend the extra $$ on the shifter too. I wish I could change out everything at once.
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If you don't care about shortening the throws on your shifter, get the blowfish bracket to tie the box to the tranny. Might also look at the Whiteline tranny bushing as well, it's around $40 on eBay. That should eliminate what your feeling.


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If you don't care about shortening the throws on your shifter, get the blowfish bracket to tie the box to the tranny. Might also look at the Whiteline tranny bushing as well, it's around $40 on eBay. That should eliminate what your feeling.


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just to confirm it should be these two:
Blowfish Racing SSB-01-000 Mustang Support GT 11-14/Boss 12-13

this bushing?
http://www.americanmuscle.com/whitel...-kit-1114.html
according to the reviews many people just replaced the bushing and have had no issues, should I try that first and see if it helps before I dive into the bracket?
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MGW or Barton for an MT-82 replacement?

Yes, those are the two I am talking about. The bushing won't solve the problem like the Blowfish, but it is cheap and if you get a new Barton rear bracket for $65 as well, you'd only have about $110 invested. Those two pieces should eliminate 75% of the movement, but the Barton bracket is useless with the Blowfish should you get one later.
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Yes, those are the two I am talking about. The bushing won't solve the problem like the Blowfish, but it is cheap and if you get a new Barton rear bracket for $65 as well, you'd only have about $110 invested. Those two pieces should eliminate 75% of the movement, but the Barton bracket is useless with the Blowfish should you get one later.
sounds good, I will grab the bushing first and after that I will go with the blowfish support bracket as a finish off.
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MGW, best shifter available and I had the Steeda shifter before.

Neither fixes the issue. Period. The blowfish does. At that point it's too close to call because the main issue is solved and now it's just personal taste as to which shifter is best. The two piece bracket from barton is no longer needed and I would think all the effort MGW did is migrated due to the blowfish as well.

Think of speakers, everyone has an opinion as to what's best. It's a simple as that. Bottom line, either you get this point or you don't. No worries either way...


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Neither fixes the issue. Period. The blowfish does. At that point it's too close to call because the main issue is solved and now it's just personal taste as to which shifter is best. The two piece bracket from barton is no longer needed and I would think all the effort MGW did is migrated due to the blowfish as well.

Think of speakers, everyone has an opinion as to what's best. It's a simple as that. Bottom line, either you get this point or you don't. No worries either way...

First off I just gave my opinion of what I feel is a great shifter as that is what the OP asked about. Secondly it depends on what you are doing with your stang and if you don't race it then the MGW WILL fix the issues you are having. It gives a better shifting experience and gets rid of the slope in the stocker. No one I know of was disappointed after installing the MGW. If you race it then it is an entirely different story and the blowfish bracket is the way to go to prevent the trans from moving but that doesn't mean you can't couple it with an aftermarket shifter for shorter throws. Lastly, JD431x1f was the one attacking your comment not me.
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