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Old 10-03-2014, 02:27 AM   #1
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Anybody know any good cams that will give me that "rump thump thump.... thump thum..ptptpt. rump rump thump" sound ๐Ÿ˜˜ I've heard it's hard getting that sound out of our 5.0's... not looking for the ghost cam tune, I want the legitimate thing (:

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Zed u could've texted me lol I know how...

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Probably a cam that is so aggressive it's effect s drive ability.

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If you got a manual l, Ford TrackCal tunes lope with a rump rump, and so do MPT and Lund.

MPT will do auto ghost cam tunes but manuals are more drive-able.

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If you got a manual l, Ford TrackCal tunes lope with a rump rump, and so do MPT and Lund.

MPT will do auto ghost cam tunes but manuals are more drive-able.

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Did you read his post at all?
Yes, I did
Edit: perhaps its best to explain what I am trying to say. Our camshafts have variable timing controlled by the computer. Whether you use the computer tune to create overlap at Idle, or buy 4 camshafts that build it in the forging, the overlap is real. The rump is a rump on a good cam tune that doesn't dump gas. The Ford Track tune does not dump gas and is safe.

The cams forged to overlap at idle can make drive-ability difficult, as it was in the older days. If all he wants is the sound and not the higher end HPR of the forged performance camshafts its sorta a huge price to pay saying my 4 Cams overlap is forged vs pushed by a solenoid and oil pressure to produce the overlap.

The only thing not real about a tune pushing a variable cam overlap is you don't gain extra HPR at 7500, but what is real is you don't lose low end drive-ability as you point out right here: ["Probably a cam that is so aggressive it's effect s drive ability. "] and then you see the cars like that are trailered to shows not local.
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He doesn't want a tune that makes the lope idle sound. He clearly states that. You didn't read his post.

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I have posted countless times on here on, how to actually get a lope out of the 5.0's.

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I have posted countless times on here on, how to actually get a lope out of the 5.0's.

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I've got to admit. You're very knowledgeable. I respect you.

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I have posted countless times on here on, how to actually get a lope out of the 5.0's.
Yes, such as in remove the phasers and use cam locks? That will produce it.
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Yes, such as in remove the phasers and use cam locks? That will produce it.
Yes by deleting the VCT and the phasers then installing lockouts.
Then a good cam, the off the shelf stuff from comp is garbage

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Almost all camshaft manufacturers will make custom grind cams for the same price as the off the shelf ones.... That is the way to go.
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Yes by deleting the VCT and the phasers then installing lockouts.
Then a good cam, the off the shelf stuff from comp is garbage

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Any downside to deleting all that?
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Any downside to deleting all that?
Gas mileage will be bad, have to find a good tuner

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Gas mileage will be bad, have to find a good tuner

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How bad, like Ford Raptor bad?
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How bad, like Ford Raptor bad?
Raptor is junk had one for my company truck for awhile, sold it and got a f250. Besides that. Anywhere from 6-10 with e85 just depends on gearing etc.

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Damn, that is bad.
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Raptor is junk had one for my company truck for awhile, sold it and got a f250. Besides that. Anywhere from 6-10 with e85 just depends on gearing etc.

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And harder to drive as a semi-daily driver, I drive mine anytime the weather is good and no salt or moisture on the ground. And that goes all the way back to this, without dumping what, 3K on cams, good person tuner? Might as well put a cobra or boss manifold and value stuff on those heads to get the benefit of the stationary overlap cams, extra lift etc. ... Unless of course you really need all that like RAP and others do and makes good use of it, I never would.

[Edit: perhaps its best to explain what I am trying to say. Our camshafts have variable timing controlled by the computer. Whether you use the computer tune to create overlap at Idle, or buy 4 camshafts that build it in the forging, the overlap is real. The rump is a rump on a good cam tune that doesn't dump gas. The Ford Track tune does not dump gas and is safe.

The cams forged to overlap at idle can make drive-ability difficult, as it was in the older days. If all he wants is the sound and not the higher end HPR of the forged performance camshafts its sorta a huge price to pay saying my 4 Cams overlap is forged vs pushed by a solenoid and oil pressure to produce the overlap.

The only thing not real about a tune pushing a variable cam overlap is you don't gain extra HPR at 7500, but what is real is you don't lose low end drive-ability as you point out right here: ["Probably a cam that is so aggressive it's effect s drive ability. "] and then you see the cars like that are trailered to shows not local.]
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If you only want the sound just go with the cam tune. Why spend $3k on cams for the sound?


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If you only want the sound just go with the cam tune. Why spend $3k on cams for the sound?


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All in how you want to spend your money if you want to invest 5k for a great sound go for it, custom grind is the only way to get that specific sound you are looking for as Rap clearly pointed out shelf cams are garbage and that is so true. So you have to decide where you want to spend your hard earned cash. I was after that old school lope and after investigating what it actually would take and the cost versus the benefit it was a shelved project so I bought a track key and kept the car stock and put dollars into the suspension.
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I'd be willing to put money down you'll have a very hard time telling the difference between the two, as was stated earlier, they both lope for the same reason. You're still creating the overlap like a push-rod cam, you just literally have none of the downsides with the Ghost cam. To each his own though, i guess you'll be able to say it's actually got cams.
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Depends on how aggressive you go on a cam, a custom cam from L&M he will set it up however you want.
You can definitely tell a difference vs a ghost cam tune

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Well if its loping so hard its struggling to stay running lol then yes, but a decent, still "street friendly" cam, id say its a wash.
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True but if they dellete the vct and do not take advantage of it with a custom aggressive cam then they are wasting alot of $$$

There is alot of factors thay have to come into play with you get that critical with your build

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Is there a certain place you have to keep to have it running if an aggressive can is placed? Rpm wise?
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I have to do tons of reaserch on these cams and the VCT on my 2013 5.0.

i plan on putting Cams on mine for the HP gains and also get the original lobe sound from them. what keeps bugging me is the little knowledge i have about the VCT and deleting that feature along with the phasers and installing lockouts.

what will happen when you delete the VCT? doesn't that help tremendously in HP and tourque throughout the band? and 6-10 MPG? holy S***.

it may be best to just get cams and a good ghost cam tune.
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When you put in aggressive cams and delete the VCT; you get what you do with a push rod motor with aggressive cams. Now you have a race car you likely would trailer to any place or show not local.

Unless your making a pro street car to trailer or stay local only; save money and get a good ghost cam tune if you want the old school sound and don't forget the Borlas
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When you put in aggressive cams and delete the VCT; you get what you do with a push rod motor with aggressive cams. Now you have a race car you likely would trailer to any place or show not local.



Unless your making a pro street car to trailer or stay local only; save money and get a good ghost cam tune if you want the old school sound and don't forget the Borlas

No no no. Wrong wrong. You can still daily a car with VCT and phasers deleted. Smh


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Just get the Ghost cam tune for $120 and call it a day. Big lope sound.

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No no no. Wrong wrong. You can still daily a car with VCT and phasers deleted. Smh


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Need to add "daily a car with VCT and phasers deleted, and aggressive pro comp cam...."?
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Need to add "daily a car with VCT and phasers deleted, and aggressive pro comp cam...."?

Until the day you have done this personally and have it tuned correctly do not assume stuff


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Until the day you have done this personally and have it tuned correctly do not assume stuff.
It can be done. For a auto it's a little more complicated.


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I am asking here, hence the ??
Can you Daily Drive an aggressive Thumper cam with phasers deleted?
You are saying yes based on your response that doesn't exactly say yes; OK

If you don't need the Pro Comp power those cams give you when you add the head work and manifold work, is it worth the price if your not racing? and I mean real racing like you do..

And when I say Pro Comp, I am not talking brand of cam, but racing level; whats it called now? .. Pro Street for cars that needs trailered in and cant drive on the street?

I think what we used to call Pro Street 40 years ago is now Pro Touring?

Let me know, you do know your facts.
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