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Old 10-29-2014, 05:14 PM   #36
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Why would a dealer use Quaker State? Why would YOU use Quaker State LOL?
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Old 10-29-2014, 06:51 PM   #37
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oil changed at 2k miles with pennzoil ultra and royal purple filter. @3k miles it didn't lose one drop of oil and no tick at all.
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I was thinking the same thing. Why would a Ford dealership use any other motor oil than Motorcraft brand?
I thought it was strange, they said they get a better deal on QS.
anyway it was free and I got rid of the factory oil. Ive never been a QS fan but I might as well try it.They did use a Motorcraft filter!
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Motor Oil 101 - Bob is the Oil Guy - Bob is the Oil Guy
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Good lord. It's like a novel but instead of teen vampires and confused werewolves it's all about oil.

How about a cliff notes version in the form of

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IMO this guy knows his stuff. I have used Pennzoil in one form or another for decades. We use 5W20 in all of our vehicles. Pennzoil Ultra Full Synthetic Motor Oil - Pennzoil I realize it is a little over kill, but oil is cheap compared to mechanical issues. I change the oil every 10,000 miles.
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I have a friend that owns a tire/oil change shop. I just buy the oil at Walmart and he does the change for free. Well not exactly free. I have to buy him a BBQ sandwich on occasion.
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How do I get accurate info on which oil has the right amount of zinc additive?
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You don't need a zinc additive. Read the above article. If Pennzoil is good enough for my old friend Enzo Ferrari to put in his cars then it is good enough for your lowly Mustang.
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Thankyou Joe for your response.The Penzoil you referred to was obviously developed by highly educated and intelligent people as they created a great product that in all prabability has some form of zinc additive.That additive is commonly known as ZDDP (it is zinc dyalkyl dithio phosphate).The zinc and the phosphate act synergistically as a an excellent extreme pressure agent which has to be blended in at specific levels to provide the correct amount of cohesivity without interferring with the emissions system.The newer engines can survive quite well with somewhat less ZDDP than older motors.Since the cylinder-to-piston and cam and crank tolerances in the "coyote" motor are tight, I would like to know more about the oils available in todays market.
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Thankyou Joe for your response.The Penzoil you referred to was obviously developed by highly educated and intelligent people as they created a great product that in all prabability has some form of zinc additive.That additive is commonly known as ZDDP (it is zinc dyalkyl dithio phosphate).The zinc and the phosphate act synergistically as a an excellent extreme pressure agent which has to be blended in at specific levels to provide the correct amount of cohesivity without interferring with the emissions system.The newer engines can survive quite well with somewhat less ZDDP than older motors.Since the cylinder-to-piston and cam and crank tolerances in the "coyote" motor are tight, I would like to know more about the oils available in todays market.
Read the link I put up in post #29. That's very informative.
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I don't think our engines will really care whether we use 5W20 or 5W30. I remember when straight 30W was the preferred oil. My favorite oil of all time was good old Castrol R 2 stroke castor oil. Nothing beats that smell.
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Yeah, I'm with you bro. I'm confident our engines will run just fine on 5W30 but the key is making sure people get on a consistent oil change interval of reasonable millage.

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Guess you are right about the engine not caring but the disign engineers do or there would not be "recommendations".There are a few basic parameters that call for some difference in the oil used.Is there anyone who knows the actual difference between 5w20 and 5w30?
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Read the link I posted above. Bob does a very good job of describing the ins and outs of oil.
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Guess you are right about the engine not caring but the disign engineers do or there would not be "recommendations".There are a few basic parameters that call for some difference in the oil used.Is there anyone who knows the actual difference between 5w20 and 5w30?
Ford Mororcraft 5W-20 is actually closer to a 5W-30.

Also these cars in other countries with the same motors call for 5W-30. Why? Because of no cafe' standards.

And lastly, the track pack cars call for 5W-50 while non track pack cars call for 5W-20. Both have the same engines. Why is that do you think?
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Ford Mororcraft 5W-20 is actually closer to a 5W-30.

Also these cars in other countries with the same motors call for 5W-30. Why? Because of no cafe' standards.

And lastly, the track pack cars call for 5W-50 while non track pack cars call for 5W-20. Both have the same engines. Why is that do you think?
Is that a rhetorical question? You know the answer to that one. According to one test posted earlier in this forum,mtrcrft oil has higher than normal viscosity initially and then deteriorates faster than others.A full synthetic is generally going to preform better in any circumstance.I have asked 2 questions and not yet gotten an answer to either one.I just would like to know what the best oil is for the first change.The oil will have all the right characteristics for that 5.0 motor.There are several fine, high quality oils available.Which one or two will be the best and which ones have the right percent of ZDDP.Also,does anyone know what the designations 5w20 and 5w30 actually mean and how the viscosity ratings are determined?
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Bob has great info, if you're into splitting hairs. Otherwise, just use clean oil and a new filter at regular intervals, your car won't puke on you.

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The reality is that you can use anything from 5W-20 to 5W-50 in this engine and it will be fine. The engine will probably outlast everything else on the car and most people will never keep one of these cars long enough for the engine to crap out anyway.

I'm not an engineer and don't pretend to be one so I just use the factory recommended 5W-20 Motorcraft and sleep well at night.

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Did my first oil change at 3000 miles and had them put the motorcraft oil 5w20 in it. I will most likely get the next change after 5000 miles with the same oil before going to synthetic.


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Did my first oil change at 2500 miles; car was in dealer stock for a year before I bought it (sitting inside). No tick, now at 5,500 miles.

Think everyone gets a little worked up over the oil change thing, whether to use 5w20, 5w30, 0w40, 5w50 for Track Pack. It's a mod motor Ford that will go 500,000 miles if you change the oil at the recommended intervals and don't have a piston-melter lean high advance tune from 2010 on it.
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Did my first oil change at 2500 miles; car was in dealer stock for a year before I bought it (sitting inside). No tick, now at 5,500 miles.

Think everyone gets a little worked up over the oil change thing, whether to use 5w20, 5w30, 0w40, 5w50 for Track Pack. It's a mod motor Ford that will go 500,000 miles if you change the oil at the recommended intervals and don't have a piston-melter lean high advance tune from 2010 on it.
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