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Old 11-08-2014, 08:17 PM   #1
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Alright, first of all I'm aware that this has been controversial on the forum so the last thing i need is people saying "oh another person that needs to realize not to buy the cheapest springs". But I was wondering if it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to get the adjustable panhard bar. And if so is it alright to drive my car after i get the springs but before i install the pan hard bar. Also i have been reading about needing new rear lower control arms camber bolts ect but I only intend to lower the car 1.5 inches. I am a college student trying to save as much money as possible so i would like to know exactly what i need without spending a crazy amount of money.
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I would definitely get panhard, camber bolts (unless you're racing then I'd get plates) man. 1.5" drop will settle and it's more drastic than you think. I know I had the same thoughts. The rear end gets kicked out substantially, get at least a panhard...

PS down the road invest in struts and shocks because they will wear out. LCA relo's ehhhh, depends if you're gunna drag and whatnot.

I understand the whole college bit, I do, but lowering your car honestly isn't just throwing on springs and calling it a day. Other suspension components will wear out at an alarming rate. Just an FYI.

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I would definitely get panhard, camber bolts (unless you're racing then I'd get plates) man. 1.5" drop will settle and it's more drastic than you think. I know I had the same thoughts. The rear end gets kicked out substantially, get at least a panhard...

PS down the road invest in struts and shocks because they will wear out. LCA relo's ehhhh, depends if you're gunna drag and whatnot.

I understand the whole college bit, I do, but lowering your car honestly isn't just throwing on springs and calling it a day. Other suspension components will wear out at an alarming rate. Just an FYI.

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So what do you suggest then? I already ordered the springs and i can get the panhard bar no problem now i just don't want to do any harm to my car. Unfortunately i never looked into what else i would have needed hard enough before buying them. Realistically,1.5 isn't too hard on the car right?
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So what do you suggest then? I already ordered the springs and i can get the panhard bar no problem now i just don't want to do any harm to my car. Unfortunately i never looked into what else i would have needed hard enough before buying them. Realistically,1.5 isn't too hard on the car right?

When are you planning to throw these parts on bro? My honest opinion, I'd wait till spring, save up for Koni shocks/struts/GT500 mounts/LCA's/LCA relos all at once like I did. Save over the winter, do it right, do it once.


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I was going to install the springs when they came in next week and then install the panhard bar whenever it came in. I drive my car to and from campus once a day and leave my house seldom otherwise so it's not like im driving the car to the point to where it's going to be wearing and tearing if I don't get the right components right away... But correct me if im wrong.


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I was going to install the springs when they came in next week and then install the panhard bar whenever it came in. I drive my car to and from campus once a day and leave my house seldom otherwise so it's not like im driving the car to the point to where it's going to be wearing and tearing if I don't get the right components right away... But correct me if im wrong.


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Well, I think you'll be good, as long as you plan on doing the rest o the components at least somewhat relatively soon yanno? I also advise you to wait only because you're going to be a plow during the winter months. I haven't looked at your location so correct me if I'm wrong there lol.


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Good news is im in Florida lmao not a problem


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But I appreciate the advice as well


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lol beautiful. I wouldn't go more than 3-5 months with just springs and s panhard if you must put them on now bud. I'd wait and install it all together, but that's just me. And you're welcome.



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I installed SR springs with only an adj panhard bar on mine and all is well, but car was basically new. If your car is low miles and not beat on like you say, then you can get away with the stockers. The consensus is that they will wear quicker, but you may as well get what you can out of them. They will have to be replaced eventually just like every other set of shocks/struts, but I don't think you'd be in too much danger of a real failure, especially with the situation you describe.
I shied away from installing camber bolts after some research, and I'm glad I did because I didn't need them. But down the road you will definitely want to upgrade the crappy strut mounts when you do the struts - even if your geometry is correct.
The "best" way would be to do everything all at once of course, but we all know the best way isn't always the easiest - or cheapest.
Good luck with it. I've been more than happy with my SR springs on my daily driver and I couldn't wait to get them on either lol.
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I installed SR springs with only an adj panhard bar on mine and all is well, but car was basically new. If your car is low miles and not beat on like you say, then you can get away with the stockers. The consensus is that they will wear quicker, but you may as well get what you can out of them. They will have to be replaced eventually just like every other set of shocks/struts, but I don't think you'd be in too much danger of a real failure, especially with the situation you describe.
I shied away from installing camber bolts after some research, and I'm glad I did because I didn't need them. But down the road you will definitely want to upgrade the crappy strut mounts when you do the struts - even if your geometry is correct.
The "best" way would be to do everything all at once of course, but we all know the best way isn't always the easiest - or cheapest.
Good luck with it. I've been more than happy with my SR springs on my daily driver and I couldn't wait to get them on either lol.

I said what I said ONLY to save the kid big headaches down the road. I also don't think it makes sense to either dig in, or have a shop dig into your suspension, only to have to repeat the process when he decides to finish the job. Curious Bobby, how many miles have you put on your car with only springs and a panhard?


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I would look in to front and rear sway bar and add a adjustable sway bar link in the front lowering your car will put lots of pressure on your stock ones and may cause a clunk soind witch wont cause harm but are very annoying.

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And I dont think the sr performance springs are bad especially for the price, I put these on my 06 gt with koni yellow shocks and sr sway bar and links, panhard bar and strut tower and my car handles almost as good as my rx8, I take it out to the track about 6 time a yr

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I'd pass on sways unless he's auto x'ing the car, which he doesn't sound like he is. Money can be better spent elsewhere in my opinion. That being said, I have the SR springs and Koni strt.s. Very happy.


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Yea just depends on how he drives his car, I love being able to take sharp corners with out hesitation and it does feel good to drive my gt as hood as I can drive my rx8

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Yea just depends on how he drives his car, I love being able to take sharp corners with out hesitation and it does feel good to drive my gt as hood as I can drive my rx8

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Yeah I hear Ya. My car handles great with just springs/struts/shocks/strut brace/LCA's. SR is good bang for buck with certain parts.


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Yea you just have to put the right parts together and they will work just fine.

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Yea you just have to put the right parts together and they will work just fine.

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I concur, and according to your needs.


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If you want to save $ but still want better than oem feel in your car I suggest sr performance springs with kyb shocks with aren't the best but better then oem, panhard bar and adjustable sway bar links, I think that would be more then enough for your basic driving.

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Thanks everyone for the great responses. I don't auto cross or drive it too hard on corners and the car has 30k miles on it. I don't ever autocross or drive it hard around turns ever nor do I ever plan too honestly. My main goal was to have a daily driver that is stanced with almost no wheel gap (I thought SR would suffice) and keep the cost of lowering it down as much as possible. Basically what im picking up on is to get the panhard bar, install it, get an alignment and see where to go from there???


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Yes I would really look into adjustable sway bar links just bc lowering your car will put lots of pressure and wear out the oem ones

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I said what I said ONLY to save the kid big headaches down the road. I also don't think it makes sense to either dig in, or have a shop dig into your suspension, only to have to repeat the process when he decides to finish the job. Curious Bobby, how many miles have you put on your car with only springs and a panhard?
I agree with you. I was mostly reiterating your advice, just letting OP know it can be done with the proviso that further mods/replacements should be and will need to be done - and that he should definitely add the panhard bar at the minimum. Not advocating foregoing changing the rest of his suspension, but if time and money are an issue - and if his suspension is in decent shape - then with the limited, moderate driving he describes he could get away with putting off the rest. Of course it goes without saying (or should) that this does also entail some repetition of labor, but that's one of the trade offs as well.
As for your curiosity, I have put about 700+ miles on mine so far with springs & panhard (I did add LCA's after the fact recently). I know I'll be swapping new Koni's and GT500 mounts (and adj UCA) sooner than later, and don't mind redoing the work - well mostly don't mind lol.
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I agree with you. I was mostly reiterating your advice, just letting OP know it can be done with the proviso that further mods/replacements should be and will need to be done - and that he should definitely add the panhard bar at the minimum. Not advocating foregoing changing the rest of his suspension, but if time and money are an issue - and if his suspension is in decent shape - then with the limited, moderate driving he describes he could get away with putting off the rest. Of course it goes without saying (or should) that this does also entail some repetition of labor, but that's one of the trade offs as well.
As for your curiosity, I have put about 700+ miles on mine so far with springs & panhard (I did add LCA's after the fact recently). I know I'll be swapping new Koni's and GT500 mounts (and adj UCA) sooner than later, and don't mind redoing the work - well mostly don't mind lol.

Lol I did all my own work as well. That's why I did it all at once. New car, I'm definitely not messing around. OP has 30k on his vehicle. In my opinion, those struts and shocks will wear out quite quickly regardless if hard driving is done. Knowing that, I'd definitely wait, but again that is just my opinion.

And you only have 700 miles lol, give it some time lol. I certainly do not wish you ill will but that is most certainly not enough miles to ruin anything. I always have the "better safe than sorry" mentality, that's just me.

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So struts and shocks should be my next move after panhard bar?


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I definitely would bro, seeing as car has quite a bit of seat time.


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I would do shocks and struts before panhard bar. Heres a pic on more info about what the sway bar links are good for not saying it's important to change asap but they do wear out especially after the car has been lowered

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Lol I did all my own work as well. That's why I did it all at once. New car, I'm definitely not messing around. OP has 30k on his vehicle. In my opinion, those struts and shocks will wear out quite quickly regardless if hard driving is done. Knowing that, I'd definitely wait, but again that is just my opinion.

And you only have 700 miles lol, give it some time lol. I certainly do not wish you ill will but that is most certainly not enough miles to ruin anything. I always have the "better safe than sorry" mentality, that's just me


Yep, with 30K miles I would definitely wait and change struts/shocks/mounts - unless you really want to go through the work (or the cost) of tearing into suspension again relatively soon, OP. Mine being new and knowing I willingly will be replacing those components soon might be a lil different scenario.
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Yeah I hear Ya. My car handles great with just springs/struts/shocks/strut brace/LCA's. SR is good bang for buck with certain parts.
Now I'm curious lol
What shocks/struts are you running with your SR's? I was planning on going GT500 mounts with Koni STR.T's was curious as to how you feel the ride quality was changed with whatever you're using. Obviously you seem happy with the handling, which is great.
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Now I'm curious lol
What shocks/struts are you running with your SR's? I was planning on going GT500 mounts with Koni STR.T's was curious as to how you feel the ride quality was changed with whatever you're using. Obviously you seem happy with the handling, which is great.
Bobby, I have SR springs, Koni strt.s all four corners, SR panhard Rod, SR LCA's, BMR UCA w/bracket, and I have an SR strut tower brace. Ride is slightly stiffer than stock, and the car handles great with little to no NVH. I bought all of that at once for under a grand.



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Bobby, I have SR springs, Koni strt.s all four corners, SR panhard Rod, SR LCA's, BMR UCA w/bracket, and I have an SR strut tower brace. Ride is slightly stiffer than stock, and the car handles great with little to no NVH. I bought all of that at once for under a grand.



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Thanks man, good to know. I don't mind slightly stiffer - the car needs it. Just don't want ride quality to suffer too much - my back isn't getting any younger lol. I have been impressed with how much the springs have helped the ride and ride control already though.
I don't get the SR "bashing" from some. I've yet to find any real issues and all their parts look to be of pretty good quality. Just because they're less expensive doesn't mean they're cheap. Nice setup bro.

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... Now go get some wheels and a spoiler lol

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Thanks man, good to know. I don't mind slightly stiffer - the car needs it. Just don't want ride quality to suffer too much - my back isn't getting any younger lol. I have been impressed with how much the springs have helped the ride and ride control already though.
I don't get the SR "bashing" from some. I've yet to find any real issues and all their parts look to be of pretty good quality. Just because they're less expensive doesn't mean they're cheap. Nice setup bro.

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Yeah, it's all in materials used. SR is good for say a daily, with occasional track use here and there, but me personally if my stang was a weekend warrior, I'd go with a more proven brand such as BMR, MM, steeda, etc. But for my uses, I pick and chose a few select SR parts and have no issues.

And yeah man, you're tellin me about needing wheels. First order of business come spring. And thanks for the kind words. It's a good DD set up and was fairly inexpensive.


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No way? Did you get any other components? Shocks struts ect?


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I'm assuming he meant he didn't "need" it because his rear end didn't shift 😬. Every car is different bud. Some may not NEED it, but I would most certainly get one dropping a car anything more than 1"


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Thanks for the help man really i do appreciate it and im sure you're right every car is different... I'll get the panhard bar on soon after I get the springs on when they come in and go from there.


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