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Old 11-09-2014, 04:11 PM   #1
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Difference Between Barton/MGW

Can someone describe the difference in the feel and performance of the two? I have a steeda tri ax and I want to try another shifter. The steeda is good, but I wanted a shifter takes a little less effort to get into gear. 1st to second is pretty rough with the steeda.

People say the barton is notchy...what exactly does that mean? Is the MGW a similar feel?

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Old 11-09-2014, 04:46 PM   #2
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MGW comes as a complete package I love the way it's shifts a lot smother and very precise. No experience with Barton but I have heard good things about them.


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What do you mesn by smoother? Can you describe it more? Does it click into gear almost like it's passing thru 2 gates?

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No that would be notchy imo. It's real precise you know exactly what gear your going into there is no fight going into gear that's what makes it smooth for me


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Ok good. Because the steeda is a little notchy. I think I'm ordering the mgw tonight.

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I have a Ford Racing (Barton) and my buddy has the MGW, the both feel the same shift wise, the only difference is the MGW is in reverse and you are taking it out of reverse, it springs back, the Ford Racing doesn't.
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What do mean by it springs back in reverse


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When you are in reverse and you bring back into neutral so you can go 1st it springs back.
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Yeah I like that it does that


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Old 11-09-2014, 09:17 PM   #10
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The MGW is a great shifter. The MT-82 itself is the culprit in what you are describing. Search the forum for a better fluid in the transmission. Several members claim improvement in shift quality after such a swap.


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The MGW is a great shifter. The MT-82 itself is the culprit in what you are describing. Search the forum for a better fluid in the transmission. Several members claim improvement in shift quality after such a swap.


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No its not what I'm describing. It's the shifter for sure. There's nothing wrong with the shifter, I would just prefer a shifter with less of a notchy feel. If the mgw is less notchy, I'm going to go that route. 2nd gear is harder to get into in higher rpms, but that's a clutch and trans twist issue I believe.

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I have the MGW and love it, but it's still just as notchy as it was when I had the stock shifter, especially when the tranny is cold.


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I have the MGW and love it, but it's still just as notchy as it was when I had the stock shifter, especially when the tranny is cold.


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My stock shifter was far from notchy. So if it's like the stock shifter in regards to smoothness then it's what I want.

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Mgw hands down read reviews on it. The only shifter company that swaps out the whole shifter no other one does. They will install it for free if u make a appointment


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There is also the Whiteline bushing insert. Basically it fills up the voids in the horrifically designed OEM rubber trans mount and keeps the tailshaft from jumping all the hell over the place and binding up the shift linkage at higher RPMs.
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Old 11-11-2014, 05:06 PM   #16
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Ok so...do you guys think I'll see a big difference over my steeda tri ax and bracket?

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you would see a diff. The Steeda is a step above the stock shifter which is sloppy and notchy. The barton is a firm but positive shift into any gear. I did the shifter & bracket and was happy then did the whiteline bushing a week or so later and all my shifts are solid and sure.....and quick.
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Whiteline bushing seems to make a huge difference. Just watching the install videos of it you can see that it would have to. Not sure wth Ford was thinking with that bushing...
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I love my MGW this is next on my agenda Click image for larger version

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I have the MGW also and love it. I later added the blowfish bracket and this made the biggest difference. Money very well spent IMO.
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That blowfish racing bracket is on sale for 269.99 @ cjponyparts until Nov 16


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Just ordered mine and the whiteline bushing as well


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Difference Between Barton/MGW

What's really sad is that it costs the enthusiast $1000 in parts to fix this shifting issue for a transmission that Ford designed to keep the cost and NVH down.
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689 to exact.

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What's really sad is that it costs the enthusiast $1000 in parts to fix this shifting issue for a transmission that Ford designed to keep the cost and NVH down.
Don't like it by a prius.
Part of the game

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What's really sad is that it costs the enthusiast $1000 in parts to fix this shifting issue for a transmission that Ford designed to keep the cost and NVH down.
Ford's transmission issues started in 07 with the GT500. The GT500 shifter is so bad... I'm not even sure what I could compare it to. The MT82 shifter is not quite as bad but its still bad. The Blowfish bracket is literally what Ford should have done from the factory, a solid mounting point for the shifter. The GT500 MGW... that might as well be a required modification literally as soon as you pull your car into the driveway from driving it home before you ever fire it up and drive it again.
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The GT500 MGW... that might as well be a required modification literally as soon as you pull your car into the driveway from driving it home before you ever fire it up and drive it again.[/QUOTE]


Yea, pretty much what I did. Installed my MGW AT 2500 miles. It has solved most of my shifting issues.


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Got my mgw. Now to find a shop to install it.

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Watch the video and do it yourself, it's just limited space on jack stands.
The worst part is putting the shift boot back on.


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Old 11-16-2014, 06:13 PM   #31
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I might. I have no garage and it's cold as ****. If it warms up I'll do it.

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I might. I have no garage and it's cold as ****. If it warms up I'll do it.

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Honestly I'd be terrified to have a shop install a shifter like that. Shortcut somewhere, not filing the linkage or doing the bushing backwards etc... I doubt THEY are going to take the 45 minutes to watch the video... and if they've never done one before...

Also, I see palm trees in your avatar... It CANNOT be that cold where you are lol
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Drive up to Georgia and have MGW put it in for free
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I'm temporarily in va at the moment. Yeah I was thinking the same thing about the shop. I'm trying to find one that has experience doing these.

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