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Old 11-20-2014, 12:51 PM   #1
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VORTECH V3-VS- On3 twin turbos

Ok its killing me I can't decide on what I want ....in one hand vortech V3 on the other hand on3 twin turbo.i have a 2012 gt I want 600wrhp out the door later I'm going in to the motor and forged the internals But that later.the vortech is 5800 comes with all i need to take me to 600+ well I'm assuming my questions are what will it take to get me to 800 as far as the supercharger how much more money.i know on3 will take me to 800 np just boost her up with the right injectors and so on.but I don't know what the supercharger will do ? Next let's look at prices 5800 supercharger kit out the door very nice I'm sure the install want cost that much now on3 well looks good BUT I see I have to have alot more tunner injectors and what ever else I was told compet install with turbo 6k hmm nice but my car will be at the shop maybe 1 week idn supercharger 12 hours very nice basically I want to hear from yall I'm sure yall know way more than me so let's here it on price durability install and jut plan old this one is the best .....ty for your help ...Also if there is another supercharger kit that might be better. ..idn

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http://www.teambeefcakeracing.com/bfckevortech.html

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Think the Vortech is a lot easier install and a little more proven package.

IF I go forced induction (if I keep the car until after warranty), then I'm probably going to go with a Vortech system.
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Vortech is easier to install, but the turbo will make power sooner than the Vortech, and it also makes better torque.
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Vortech will max out at about 700.

On3 will be good for 900+


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Really and they say 800+I bet that's with headers and all kinda stuff added well 700 want cut it down the road

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Really and they say 800+I bet that's with headers and all kinda stuff added well 700 want cut it down the road

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The vortech will not make 800 to the wheels. To the flywheel yes, it's to small of a blower to make 800.

If you want to make 800 with a centri blower it will have to be the Paxton

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Old 11-20-2014, 01:26 PM   #9
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That's the turbo kit I plan to go with possibly next year. Seems very reasonable. Install it yourself save some coin. I bet the manifolds would be the hardest part. Dunno what's done to your car but personally I'll be able to turn around and sell my long tubes to recoup some money.

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If I can find a good deal around 6k I will go with Paxton because a week with out my car I would have to rent a car mo money mo money u know and the install will cost less

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What about this one 800rwhp?*PAXTON 2200SL*

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Old 11-20-2014, 07:26 PM   #12
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The Paxton will get you to a 1000 hp if you want.


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Well that looks like a good deal there I email beefs yesterday with some questions but no one has got back with me yet I mean I want a turbo but I think in the long run it will be trouble because I travel so much for work and all that heat is not to good

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Let's see....a budget turbo kit or a premium SC...which make sense to choose?

You may find the hassles of install and tuning on the TC more than you bargained for. If you aren't really mechanically inclined and can't do this stuff yourself, stay as far away from a turbo setup as you can, especially on a DD car you need to rely on.

I'd do turbo on a non-DD or show car. For the road, belt driven super all the way, btdt....
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Downside to the on3 kit is,
If you can't install yourself your looking at $1,500-2,000 for a shop to do it.
Then there is the tuning.
A tuner that is not familiar with the on3 kit will have trouble. The main thing is getting the car to iddle correctly

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Old 11-21-2014, 08:01 AM   #16
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Yea and I recently put a post out here asking if anyone new a shop that could tune a on3 proformits twin turbo next Myrtle Beach and I didn't get not one post so that had me kinda worried u know

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Rapinator126 I know it will cost alot and alot more down time I think i would be around 7k and no one around to fix it if something goes wrong with it but if Paxton can get me to 600rwhp then 800rwhp later I'm going with that I just don't know how much more it would cost me to get it to 800rwhp as far as money like headers I guess what I'm asking is what will it take to get me to 800rwhp just add a pully?or a lot more stuff ?

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800hp can be done with the stock headers. All it will require is a fuel system, built motor, and a smaller pulley

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Still recommend looking at longtubes though, as the stock ones will get you to 800, but they will also be a restriction as well.

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If you are planning on 700rwhp or less, go with the Vortech, 700+ go with the Paxton. Good comments above, for a daily driven car, a centri is going to be a lot more street friendly. The On3 makes great power but tuning and keeping them properly tuned requires more time and effort than a centri and def more down and shop time. Going with the Vortech or Paxton, I would suggest these things that aren't necessary but make the performance a LOT better.
1) JLT performance intake - Unlike NA, this intake WILL make about 25rwhp more than the stock airbox with your SC
2) T-Bolts are MUCH better than the worm drive clamps and worth the investment IMHO
3) TIAL BOV or the MaxFlow race BOV. Sounds badass and is a head turner to say the least
4) I HIGHLY recommend the "torque booster" setup. This made a HUGE difference in how the power comes on.
5) Brisk one step cooler plugs
6) JPC aluminum coolant tank (better cap position and much better than the poly one provided)

***IF YOU PLAN TO GO BIGGER DOWN THE ROAD***
Install the Billet Oil Pump gears INITIALLY. I WISH we had done this in the first place. Now it will be more work for us tearing down, installing them and going back together. Still kicking myself in the *** that we didn't do this in the first place. This car is on the ragged edge of power on stock internals. Our dyno run was prior to installing the torque booster setup. Now I am sure the car is making over 650rwhp and 500tq and it comes on a lot quicker. My initial thoughts were if she popped, get it built, but now I wish I had just installed OPG and it would be GTG. That being said, Lund Racing's tune on this car is spot on and the data logs look really good. Not worried about detonation, but always worry about interals failing and causing a lot of damage.
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I will definitely be getting long tubes I know the install will cost a little more lol or maybe alot more lol but u did answer my so I'm going with Paxton wooohooo

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Still recommend looking at longtubes though, as the stock ones will get you to 800, but they will also be a restriction as well.

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If you are planning on 700rwhp or less, go with the Vortech, 700+ go with the Paxton. Good comments above, for a daily driven car, a centri is going to be a lot more street friendly. The On3 makes great power but tuning and keeping them properly tuned requires more time and effort than a centri and def more down and shop time. Going with the Vortech or Paxton, I would suggest these things that aren't necessary but make the performance a LOT better.
1) JLT performance intake - Unlike NA, this intake WILL make about 25rwhp more than the stock airbox with your SC
2) T-Bolts are MUCH better than the worm drive clamps and worth the investment IMHO
3) TIAL BOV or the MaxFlow race BOV. Sounds badass and is a head turner to say the least
4) I HIGHLY recommend the "torque booster" setup. This made a HUGE difference in how the power comes on.
5) Brisk one step cooler plugs
6) JPC aluminum coolant tank (better cap position and much better than the poly one provided)

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Yea i plan on really putting some money in it when I go 800rwhp I will not be cheap there by no means and thank you for all of the detailed stuff I didn't know I will get everything you said I mean it's my only car u know and I want it right now all I got to do is save the rest of the money and find the best deal I can on the Paxton 2200SL so if u know of a good deal some where please hit me up

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TeamBeefCakeRacing.com They have the best deal on the Paxton. It is the same price as the Vortech. The Beefcake Special has everything you need PLUS you get your tuning that is included in the price by Lund Racing which makes it a MUCH better deal.
Call Terry instead of emailing him. 513-535-2975
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TeamBeefCakeRacing.com They have the best deal on the Paxton. It is the same price as the Vortech. The Beefcake Special has everything you need PLUS you get your tuning that is included in the price by Lund Racing which makes it a MUCH better deal.
Call Terry instead of emailing him. 513-535-2975
Hell yea I'm give them a call I was looking at there prices and it looks pretty good

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