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Old 12-06-2014, 06:58 AM   #1
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Go naturally aspirated or go with the supercharger?

I have a 2014 GT, I'm not sure if I want to stay N/A or supercharge the car. Right now I'm at 400rwhp with JLT CAI, Boss 302 h-pipe, roush exhaust and an SCT tune. If I stay N/A, I will only add the headers and cams. However, I'm thinking of just going all out and adding the Roush TVS supercharger. The car is used for weekends, long drives and show. But I love having all that power and every once in awhile I have to floor it. Does supercharging make that much of a difference? Money is not an issue. Opinions please...
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I have a 2014 GT, I'm not sure if I want to stay N/A or supercharge the car. Right now I'm at 400rwhp with JLT CAI, Boss 302 h-pipe, roush exhaust and an SCT tune. If I stay N/A, I will only add the headers and cams. However, I'm thinking of just going all out and adding the Roush TVS supercharger. The car is used for weekends, long drives and show. But I love having all that power and every once in awhile I have to floor it. Does supercharging make that much of a difference? Money is not an issue. Opinions please...

I'm full bolt on N/A minus the cams and heads. I'm Cobra Jet Manifold, Cobra Jet JLT CAI, Cobra Jet Throttle Body, x pipe, longtubes and a tune sittin on full suspension and some nitto invos running 12.21 @ 118

If your planning to stay N/A just go full out and get E85 H/C/I LT/XPipe Slicks/Skinnies & a tune since cost is not a issue


Or if your wanting FI go get the supercharger and upgrade all your internals too be safe.


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If you don't go over 600 RWHP, which is about 695 HP at the crank, you don't need to upgrade your internals. If you have the funds, the Roush will give you many miles of smiles.
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I went with the vmp tvs. A little more money than the roush but they actually have a whine sound that I was
Looking for. I'm also staying stock internals as I only want about 550-590 whp


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That's what I read, anything under 700hp should be good. I'm leaning towards the supercharger. You can never have enough horsepower. My GT is fast as hell with 400rwhp. I can only imagine what a supercharger must feel like.
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What are the rest of your mods? Dudes are going mid 11s on stock longblocks all motor so I'd work on suspension first honestly. Always fun to see a car making substantially less power in one lane that can actually hook up just roflstomp the car next to it that is making way way more.
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The record for fastest, stock motor, bolton 5.0 is 10.5 @ 128
There is 5 100% stock motor, auto 5.0's in the 10's with just boltons. All under 500 rwhp

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Yeah well those are the cray cray ones with real good drivers and weight reduction and suspension out the ***. There are a few autos on this forum running consistent mid 11s with the stock longblock and basic suspension.
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Honestly not alot of weight reduction. The fastest one running 10.5 weighs 3400 with the driver. And has your basic suspension just like anyone else. Only thing different would be anti roll bar

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Honestly not alot of weight reduction. The fastest one running 10.5 weighs 3400 with the driver. And has your basic suspension just like anyone else. Only thing different would be anti roll bar

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3400 with driver has decent weight reduction done. The standard rear seat delete ect won't cut that much off of an S197


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Well then that is one hell of a driver and still a good 300lbs gone. That's more than most ppl are willing to give up. Hell, with all the people who "have" to have a premium... 11s lol. I know for damn sure if I do wind up with a 15+ new its going to be a base. I can add in 6 piston brakes and Kirkeys myself...
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3400 with driver has decent weight reduction done. The standard rear seat delete ect won't cut that much off of an S197


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Only weight reduction is race seats, rear seat dellete, k member , and sway bar dellete. And driveshaft.

It's all your basic weight reduction. Nothing special.



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Only weight reduction is race seats, rear seat dellete, k member , and sway bar dellete. And driveshaft.

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About 25 each seat, 40 from back seats, sway bar 10-15ish, Guessing UPR K member which is probably around 50-70, 15 or so from driveshaft.

That's about 200 generous. Still seems a bit low weight for those mods.


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Hopefully was the BMR K member which might actually fit right... I'm not arguing with Raptor about the times... I'm just really scratching my head on what the hell all else could have been removed or if the S197 stuff just weighs that much? I'll defer to those who have actually been there/done that.
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About 25 each seat, 40 from back seats, sway bar 10-15ish, Guessing UPR K member which is probably around 50-70, 15 or so from driveshaft.

That's about 200 generous. Still seems a bit low weight for those mods.


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Well that's what it is. The cars are lighter than what people think.


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Go weigh a coyote for yourself and you will see what I'm talking about.

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Yea to be 3400 with driver assume the driver is 150-200 pounds. That means the car would have to be 3200ish, a coyote weighs about 3600 without driver. So that's supposedly a 400 pound drop in weight.


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I still like the 3,000lb notch fox I saw with a Coyote in it lol. Although with the weight these things are and the times they are running... the On3 car is pretty much full weight and its in 9s and is daily driven by the owner. Even the pig GT500s with Whipples and a good suspension setup will hit 9s.
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Yea to be 3400 with driver assume the driver is 150-200 pounds. That means the car would have to be 3200ish, a coyote weighs about 3600 without driver. So that's supposedly a 400 pound drop in weight.


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Maybe Ford weighed the original Coyote with Honey Boo Boo's mom riding shotgun?

Well... former mom anyway... that pig is about to lose custody lmao.
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I've seen stock coyotes weighed on the scale around the 3600 range. I don't doubt it can get to 3400 with driver, but now with those few mods said


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Ford claims 3600. Like I said go weigh one yourself and you will see. You may be suprised.

And for the gt500's to hit 9's they are making a lot of hp.

Nothing is more fun then taking down the people with the gt500's making 700+ and there 16-18 psi. Then you just hear the excuses roll.

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Ford claims 3600. Like I said go weigh one yourself and you will see. You may be suprised.

I've seen coyotes on the scale, most are around 3600 give or take 50.

I don't doubt it can get 3400 with driver, but it doesn't seem likely with those very few mods.


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I've seen coyotes on the scale, most are around 3600 give or take 50.

I don't doubt it can get 3400 with driver, but it doesn't seem likely with those very few mods.


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Here it's actually 3500 with the driver. Which is even more impressive for boltons.
Here is the video.

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And it would be 3400 with a driver that is under 200 lbs. So yup

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Go naturally aspirated or go with the supercharger?

3500 seems more realistic, though that is still 300 pounds reduction over stock given the driver is 200. Did he remove sound deadening also?

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3500 seems more realistic


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He is a big guy. Put a normal 160 lb guy in the car and it's at the 3400 lbs.

He is a 250lb dude. So like I said YUP

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3500 seems more realistic, though that is still 300 pounds reduction over stock given the driver is 200. Did he remove sound deadening also?

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No all the mods are in the video, and description. It's all basic weight reduction nothing crazy.

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Ford claims 3600. Like I said go weigh one yourself and you will see. You may be suprised.

And for the gt500's to hit 9's they are making a lot of hp.

Nothing is more fun then taking down the people with the gt500's making 700+ and there 16-18 psi. Then you just hear the excuses roll.

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Stop dashing all my hopes and dreams of owning a 700hp GT500 one day lol. IIRC dude was 800whp on 16 psi on 93 octane with a Whipple and running 9s as in like 9.9 and hitting his shifts perfectly haha.
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UPR Tubular K
Aluminum DS
Race Seats
Forged Wheels (drag set up)
Lightweight Battery
Rear Seat Delete
And looks like a fiberglass hood.

Now it seems more realistic, Forged wheels, light battery, and the fiberglass hood will indeed help with weight reduction, those parts you left out.
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UPR Tubular K
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Race Seats
Forged Wheels (drag set up)
Lightweight Battery
Rear Seat Delete
And looks like a fiberglass hood.

Now it seems more realistic, Forged wheels, light battery, and the fiberglass hood will indeed help with weight reduction, those parts you left out.
wheels wheels and tires and my comment of " basic weight reduction" should be common sense. I was giving you the main components.


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wheels wheels and tires and my comment of " basic weight reduction" should be common sense. I was giving you the main components.


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"basic weight reduction" can vary from set up to set up. And being UPR K member it will drop a little more than say a MM K member. And then smaller wheels, unlike an autocross or road race set up with bigger wheels. Weight is cut in different places so there is no real "base"

Every pound does count though. My car weighed in 3335 pounds with no back seats, no spare, or jack; but it also has about 70 pounds added in suspension. Take Brett Madsen's car for example, it weighs about 2800 pounds, same exact body style as mine.
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A lightweight battery can cut off 25 pounds also, so i wouldn't dismiss that as not important.
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Well basic weight reduction does apply to the coyotes. Bc everyone cutting weight does the same thing.
But you can take it as you want.







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So a 3500 car running mid 10's with 470 rwhp. Can't beat that.

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