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Old 01-02-2015, 10:19 AM   #1
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I have a 2014 5.0 and I'm thinking about installing performance camshafts. I am a weekend driver only (mostly highway) and plan on keeping the car for the rest of my life. I may track the car once or twice a year. My question is would performance camshafts hurt, enhance or not affect the life of the coyote engine?
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Good for 20-40HP. Don't bother doing unless your already full bolt Ons already and have money to spend 3Gs+


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Just looking at your signature they're not for you.
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I plan on adding the shorty headers and the Boss 302 manifold along with the performance camshafts. Do you still think it's not worth it and why?
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Over my head? Meaning I already have too much power? Explain...
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That you need to do alot more research

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I've done a lot of research on performance camshafts. My feeling is as long as the installer does the correct tune (which I confidently feel will), then it really shouldn't affect the life of the engine. I asked the question to get other opinions as far as manufacturer, performance, type and longevity...
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Over my head? Meaning I already have too much power? Explain...
As in there are many things you need to do performance wise first before you even close to needing cams. You still haven't told us anything about your car.
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What else do I need performance wise (forged internals)? Educate me. I'm just looking to add more horsepower to the car and they sound really good. Money is not an issue...
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'Sound" yup you need more research bud. VCT

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I can see where this is going. Take care guys...
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By SCT tune do you mean the canned tune that comes on the device?

I don't know how many times I need to say it but if you have an auto a torque converter is your best friend.
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why are you getting shorty headers? they give you almost no power gain, you may as well keep the stock headers on. and like grabber blue asked is this SCT tune just a canned tune from SCT themselves? If so i advise you find a reputable tuner first, then find a good torque converter for your car as well, don't ask me what is a good one because i have a manual and haven't needed to get a torque converter so i wouldn't know. I would also look at suspension next if i were you so you can actually put the power you make to the ground first. Those are just a couple of suggestions, Their are a lot of things you can do before camshafts are needed.
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I see what your saying, a cammed coyote does sound outstanding. Don't worry about that just take the good advise and leave the rest. Good luck with your ride bro.


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Rap and Grabber are correct, if you want the "sound" of a cam, performance cams wont give it to you unless you Block your TiVCT. Then your drivability suffers just like old school cams in the 70s. If you want the sound and have a Manual get a Ford Racing TrackCal or TrackKey tune. BUT Since you have an auto, use your SCT with a MPT [more power tuning] Cam Tune. If you had more radical parts, a Lund tune would be best but not worth it with parts you have today. Your car already has Shorty headers from the factory for example.

edit: Oh , adding a Boss Intake will hurt your low end torque some, hard on a Auto without a Stall converter. I would skip that if you plan to play on the street. If you plan to do high RPM mods, Boss or CJ intakes go with long tube headers and stall converters for automatics.
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Our cars have some fancy computer thing that controls the cam sound and makes it smooth even if they are beefy cams.

Do a tune for the sound. 30hp for $3000 isn't worth it.

I suggest doing what I did. I know jack squat about these gen stangs - I spent time reading people's responses and found a few guys that know these cars very well. Rap and Grabber are very smart when it comes to these cars, Id suggest putting some thought on their responses. They can be sarcastic but they both will drop some knowledge on you that you can rely on. Just my .02 cents.


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Our cars have some fancy computer thing that controls the cam sound and makes it smooth even if they are beefy cams.

Do a tune for the sound. 30hp for $3000 isn't worth it.

I suggest doing what I did. I know jack squat about these gen stangs - I spent time reading people's responses and found a few guys that know these cars very well. Rap and Grabber are very smart when it comes to these cars, Id suggest putting some thought on their responses. They can be sarcastic but they both will drop some knowledge on you that you can rely on. Just my .02 cents.
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Same thing as I said, you either go radical, or get a cam sound tune. The ice thing is that in most cases, the cam tunes are faster then most all old school Fords but the most Radical..
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Same thing as I said, you either go radical, or get a cam sound tune. The ice thing is that in most cases, the cam tunes are faster then most all old school Fords but the most Radical..

My lund cam tune is awesome. And I don't miss those potential 30hp lol. The lope on my car is pretty beefy.

My car isn't a track car so eeking out a 10th of a second isn't high on my priority list.

Stall converter is my next buy (thanks to rap and grabber)


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My lund cam tune is awesome. And I don't miss those potential 30hp lol. The lope on my car is pretty beefy.

My car isn't a track car so eeking out a 10th of a second isn't high on my priority list.

Stall converter is my next buy (thanks to rap and grabber)


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Do you use your car as a DD/on street? I am/was looking into a stall converter. I learned it will have driveability issues.
Check this post (Higher stall torque converter?). Also the labor is gonna be a betch if you're going to pay someone else to do it for you.
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My lund cam tune is awesome. And I don't miss those potential 30hp lol. The lope on my car is pretty beefy.

My car isn't a track car so eeking out a 10th of a second isn't high on my priority list.

Stall converter is my next buy (thanks to rap and grabber)


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Everyone has their own choices. However if you really need a Stall Converter and you are not a drag track person ; your choices are not that of several Street drivers...

You will lose fuel usage , and make some folks think your are challenging them at some stop lights just as you move forward.
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Do you use your car as a DD/on street? I am/was looking into a stall converter. I learned it will have driveability issues.
Check this post (Higher stall torque converter?). Also the labor is gonna be a betch if you're going to pay someone else to do it for you.





Yes daily driver. No tracks. Just street. I've heard mix reviews on drivability. The little bit I got in to it with Grabber it didn't sound like it'd be a issue. He has one. I'll check out your link.


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There are no driveabilty issues with a converter provided you have a good tuner. The only time you know it's there is if you're driving up something steep like a set of car ramps.

The car will only flash to the higher rpm's if you mash the pedal.
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There are no driveabilty issues with a converter provided you have a good tuner. The only time you know it's there is if you're driving up something steep like a set of car ramps.

The car will only flash to the higher rpm's if you mash the pedal.
Yes Grab is correct, but notice "GOOD TUNER", you wont get that on email tunes....Just sayin
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Yes Grab is correct, but notice "GOOD TUNER", you wont get that on email tunes....Just sayin

Lund. FTW.


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Here is a discussion about the real need for a tune, and issues if you dont for folks: Circle D 4C or 5C for DD? Post Converter tuning ? as well..
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Reading that made me want a converter that much more. Soon as I put my wheels on today. Gonna start shopping


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How long does it take to install a converter? Given the price tag of $1150 and based on what I've read via DIY installs, I'm guessing one might look into saving at least $2000 give or take right?

Also, wouldn't a set of 3.55 or 3.73 gears be better option at $700-800 for a DD street car?
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The converter is an easy job if you have a lift. I would say 2-3 hours to do it on a lift. The hardest part is checking the level with the dipstick right next to the exhaust.


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thanks grabber! I read on svtp that a lose converter like 4c/5c be too much for a street car that doesn't se track. Just cuz it will spin your tires more often than not. Having said that, can one argue it might be an overkill in my application?
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thanks grabber! I read on svtp that a lose converter like 4c/5c be too much for a street car that doesn't se track. Just cuz it will spin your tires more often than not. Having said that, can one argue it might be an overkill in my application?
I have a 5c converter and dd the car in the summer.... Get a nice tire and some more practice and experience on how to control your foot and you wont be spinning your tires more then not...

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I have a 5c converter and dd the car in the summer.... Get a nice tire and some more practice and experience on how to control your foot and you wont be spinning your tires more then not...

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Thing is DD it in winter too, and it will spin tires if I go just a tad more hard on throttle (to feel the torque) than I usually do. I can't really afford a winter beater either.. Life of a 25yo lol hence I wanna make sure if I'm dropping $1700-1800 bucks then I better be able to justify it from a practical point of view.
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Just a thought, but I've picked up beaters in the past for under $2.5K. You might make searching out the perfect winter beater car as a next MOD. Makes your 'stang less salt/snow abused making it worth more and held together when you reach 30 and cant be trusted anymore

If you park & store the 'stang your insurance should let you run the beater in the winter and they switch you to the 'stang again in the summer. I know folks hear doing that.

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