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Old 02-08-2015, 04:36 PM   #36
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Umm...that's the definition of contradiction. You could call this and inversely proportional relationship if you want to get all stat-sy on it...

I maintained a warranty with the Procal tune and better than any "guarantee", I just pulled the plugs after 3 years and there is no sign of any distress and the comp check was passed with flying colours. Add that to the stellar dragstrip performance out of this fat car and I'd say you are pretty safe picking a tune from a recognized vendor.
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Umm...that's the definition of contradiction. You could call this and inversely proportional relationship if you want to get all stat-sy on it...

I maintained a warranty with the Procal tune and better than any "guarantee", I just pulled the plugs after 3 years and there is no sign of any distress and the comp check was passed with flying colours. Add that to the stellar dragstrip performance out of this fat car and I'd say you are pretty safe picking a tune from a recognized vendor.
I assume you had a Ford Dealer install the Procal tune to get the FRPP Warranty, right?
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Yeah, I've been building and racing cars and bikes for over 30 years so, it's hardly beyond me but, I needed the paper to validate the warranty. Took about a 1/2 hour and cost about $50 at a willing dealer.
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While at my local Ford dealer the service manager told me about a guy with an 11 with ProCal FRPP tune that came in complaining about pining.............they ran his Vin# to find out it had not been installed by a Ford dealer and told him it would not be under warranty...........guess the guy put up quite a fuss....and left mad.
It really pays making friends with a local Ford dealer and getting to know the people that make the decisions like parts manager and service manager.....IMHO
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Not entirely convinced it is pinging, as in, straight up spark knock. I do get it occasionally, more in winter on crap 91. Use 93 and it's better. Occasionally resetting the profile helps ( a five minute job with the PC tool). The plugs showed absolutely zero indications of ping damage, as they would if it were present, especially after 3 years, including over 100 full on dragstrip passes.

One day, if I am bored, I'll fish my boroscope down there.
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Unfortunately here on the West Coast we can only get 91 or on rare occasions 92.................93 has been gone for over two decades.
I used to cut 91 with 103 unleaded race gas in my 68 Z28 with 11.1cr back in the 80's.
I just put one of UPR's new design catch cans on my 14 in an effort to keep some of the crap out of the intake.
Although I sold my drag car/spares I may get some sticky tires for the back...........and maybe some skinny tires for the front and see what this car can do.........after I finish some of the suspension work.
As for the tune..........I wouldn't drive mine without one.
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Alright, now im considering this procal frpp tune. Any links for it? Stupid thread. I swear, if I break another car with a tune, my wife's gonna shoot me.
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Alright, now im considering this procal frpp tune. Any links for it? Stupid thread. I swear, if I break another car with a tune, my wife's gonna shoot me.

You should look into trackkey as well, I believe this come with warranties
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The modern track key actually does something, unlike the B302 TK. Basically, it is the procal tune with an idle lope feature and launch control so, it is worthy of consideration, for those with 13.5 and 14 cars. It's got an equivalent warranty to PC but, does cost more.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:13 PM   #46
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You loose your 5/60000 with those tunes only your 3/36000 remains.

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Orr I should say you can be denied powertrain claims after your 3/36.

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I will say it again...I see nothing supporting the claim that your 5/60 is affected in any way by the installation of this tune, as long as a Ford dealer does it.

Could a Ford dealer be a dick and make life difficult, yes, of course but, that's SOP it seems. However, nothing I've seen says you lose 5/60 anywhere, only that the driveline portion of your 3/36 gets replaced with the FRPP warranty, which is spectacular since it covers the entire driveline, not just the engine.

More importantly, I'm coming off 3/36 now and have no signs of driveline distress at all, despite 100+ dragstrip passes on slicks and thousands of miles of road driving.
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Talked with them and like you say 3 36 is covered but ford 5 60 on powertrain is ford not frpp and ford can and will deny a warranty claim if a car is tuned you can read their service bulletin. You never loose any ford warranty but it gives them the right to deny a claim.

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Worth every penny! Not only is there a very noticeable increase in HP and throttle response, the fuel efficiency increase alone may help this thing pay for itself. For example, I'm using the 93 octane racing tune and if I set my cruise for 70mph, I get about 26mpg vs. the 22mpg I was getting before the tuner.

Heeere comes the math...

26mpg - 22mpg = 4mpg increase x 16 gallon tank = an extra 64 miles per tank!

Based on a gas price of $2.40 per gallon and driving 12,500 miles per year...
22mpg annual fuel cost = $1,364
26mpg annual fuel cost = $1,154

That's $210 saved per year. Boom.
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I wouldn't be without my tune and one day I'll get a better one when the car has few more mod's.
Talking about warranty, it's not what you know, but who you know and developing a friendship with your local Ford dealer, service manager and parts manager is worth the time spent. I've had transmissions/clutches and seats replaced under warranty and I had a ton of aftermarket parts on the car including headers and aftermarket exhaust (with cats of course)..............it pays to make friends not enemies........IMHO
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Convincing someone to buy a tune over the internet is one of the hardest things to do.

Find a buddy with a stock Mustang that only has a tune. Ask him to put it back to stock and drive it with you. Then tell him to go back to his custom tune. You'll feel how much the tune really changes the car, in most cases, its a night and day difference.

Otherwise, its up to you. Ask yourself, would you be able to live with not ever giving a custom tune (that everyone talks so highly of) a chance for the rest of your life? If you don't like it, oh well $400 isn't much and you can always return it back to stock and sell the tuner for $200.
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Sounds good I was looking into the 93 octane tune from Bama


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My '14 has almost 20,000 miles and I have run a tune since 1,000 miles. I have never had a problem, just one small minor annoyance that was tuned out in the new V2 tunes. Is it worth it? My car picked up nearly 4 MPH , multiple runs best both stock and with the tune. The car is smooth and drivability is better than stock.
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Dude these cars were meant to be run hard... push that b!tch to the max leave no doubts. As far as the tunes causing complications you might wanna check the people that set your parameters on your tune.

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Whatever. My GT is on rails. SCT 93 tune, FRPP GT500 axle backs, BMR LCA, relo brackets, and UCA with bracket, FRPP Handling kit with adj dampers and shocks at 50%. This car is amazing. Not to mention a Ford rebuild of my Track Pack rear. Michelin pilot sport AS/3 for winter. Next up, put this yellow top in the right rear.


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I choose not to tune my car for some of the reasons given above. First of all, I'm at the age where I don't want to deal with any potential issues that might be caused by a tune. I also don't want to potentially void my warranty by having a tune.

I'm satisfied with how much power this car has stock and don't use everything it has now so I see no need for me to have a tune.

I'm happy for the people that want a tune. It's their car and they can do what they want with it but when I read posts about people getting a tune and then they want to know why they have a CEL, misfires, car is not running right, etc., I'm glad mine is not tuned because I just don't want to deal with crap like that.

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I finally bought a V2 tune for my 2014 GT. It took a great running car and made it fantastic. It puts a really fine razor edge on a sharp knife. Right down to the way its shifts(mine is an automatic). Glad I did it.
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I finally bought a V2 tune for my 2014 GT. It took a great running car and made it fantastic. It puts a really fine razor edge on a sharp knife. Right down to the way its shifts(mine is an automatic). Glad I did it.
How do your logs look? You did data log the tune right?
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Yolo******bag has the best tunes for these cars.

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Yolo******bag has the best tunes for these cars.
Agreed.
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I choose not to tune my car for some of the reasons given above. First of all, I'm at the age where I don't want to deal with any potential issues that might be caused by a tune. I also don't want to potentially void my warranty by having a tune.

I'm satisfied with how much power this car has stock and don't use everything it has now so I see no need for me to have a tune.

I'm happy for the people that want a tune. It's their car and they can do what they want with it but when I read posts about people getting a tune and then they want to know why they have a CEL, misfires, car is not running right, etc., I'm glad mine is not tuned because I just don't want to deal with crap like that.

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I choose not to tune my car for some of the reasons given above. First of all, I'm at the age where I don't want to deal with any potential issues that might be caused by a tune. I also don't want to potentially void my warranty by having a tune.

I'm satisfied with how much power this car has stock and don't use everything it has now so I see no need for me to have a tune.

I'm happy for the people that want a tune. It's their car and they can do what they want with it but when I read posts about people getting a tune and then they want to know why they have a CEL, misfires, car is not running right, etc., I'm glad mine is not tuned because I just don't want to deal with crap like that.

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I believe the OP's request was, "Someone convince me to buy a tune", not the other way around.
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How do your logs look? You did data log the tune right?
Bama said a data log wasn't necessary.
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Bama gave you bad advice. I would data log anyone's tune. Never trust what can cost you tens of thousands of dollars when a simple procedure was all it took.
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Bama gave you bad advice. I would data log anyone's tune. Never trust what can cost you tens of thousands of dollars when a simple procedure was all it took.
Yes, always good to datalog just to make sure everything is in check. Don't want to gamble with an expensive motor. Expensive to me anyway, I'm a broke mofo

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Bama gave you bad advice. I would data log anyone's tune. Never trust what can cost you tens of thousands of dollars when a simple procedure was all it took.

And how do we guarantee that they will actually look at the tune and make adjustments?


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And how do we guarantee that they will actually look at the tune and make adjustments?
Unfortunatley none. But you at least have to try. But to tell customers none are required is not the right thing to do.
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Umm...that's the definition of contradiction. You could call this and inversely proportional relationship if you want to get all stat-sy on it...

I maintained a warranty with the Procal tune and better than any "guarantee", I just pulled the plugs after 3 years and there is no sign of any distress and the comp check was passed with flying colours. Add that to the stellar dragstrip performance out of this fat car and I'd say you are pretty safe picking a tune from a recognized vendor.
One drive in a well tuned car vs. stock and your decision will be made. There is no reason to spend a bunch of money on a tune for stock car either. $ Buy a tune from a recognized vendor, I've seen the files on tunes from Steeda and BBR and they are solid. You can easily learn to datalog with the live link software that comes with your SCT to make sure things are good to go. I ran the Steeda tune for a while when N/A, it was fun- much better than stock. They use the tune on the warrantied Steeda branded cars and the chance of a problem is minimal. Avoid the SCT "strategy tune" it is not very good, use the SCT device and tune files from a good vendor, search around other forums to there is a lot of info out there, mostly reputable.
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