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Old 02-09-2015, 02:42 PM   #1
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Received first free oil and filter change at dealership.Had them put in 7 qts of Motorcraft synthetic blend oil and 1 qt of Mobil 1 full synthetic with 2 oz of Lucas break in oil additive. The engine is a little quieter an there is NO engine " tick" sound at all. I hope I have found a way to prevent that tick sound from occurring. I have a 2014 5.0 gt.
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In pretty sure you are supposed to run full synthetic in these motors. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I am surprised the dealer would even do that for you.


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In pretty sure you are supposed to run full synthetic in these motors. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
Not true.
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Yeah, the 5/20 factory cars are a blend the 5/50 are synthetics. You can go either way and in between on weights. Not sure on the concoction to prevent tic. I have run 0w 40 mobil 1 since my first change at 2500 miles no tics.

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Wow. Well my manual says full syn only recommended . At least I thought that's what I had read. I changed mine with the new amsoil made especially for our cars. No noise.


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The track pack cars that call for 5W-50 require full synthetic possibly?
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I may have read it wrong. I guess I just thought I had read it. Dunno. Good to know, but I will prob stick with my amsoil full synthetic


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The track pack cars that call for 5W-50 require full synthetic possibly?
Not from what I have read. On the cap should have the specs your oil should meet. As for weights that is your choice based on application and research. For instance the same car across the pond is filled with 5/30 as there are no cafe requirements. I don't have the specs off hand.

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Not from what I have read. On the cap should have the specs your oil should meet. As for weights that is your choice based on application and research. For instance the same car across the pond is filled with 5/30 as there are no cafe requirements. I don't have the specs off hand.
I didn't think so but I've been wrong before. I was pretty sure Ford called for a blend in all cars.
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The 5 50 is full synthetic and is standard fill track pack and boss. I've seen used oil analysis on that oil and it shears down quickly to a 30 weight. The reason they did the 5 / 50 was application they know those cars were more likely going to see more extreme conditions. When they had the oil formulated they must have known that it would shear quickly and quite frankly leaves me wondering why? I have seen used oil analysis on high grade synthetic 5 / 50 and it created some issues with high oil pressure on multiple cars and tripping the bypass. The oil showed signs of more wear too. 40 weight seems to be more happy oil pressure wise and wear wise for extreme conditions. 30 weight is a great middle of the road. The blend motorcraft 5 / 20 is actually a really good oil that has good used oil analysis at 10k miles. It doesn't shear much and when ford had it formulated for stringent US cafe standards they knew it had to be robust being a 20 weight. Not the best choice for extreme stuff though.

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Wow. Well my manual says full syn only recommended . At least I thought that's what I had read. I changed mine with the new amsoil made especially for our cars. No noise.

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When did they come out with 5-50. Damn it I just put in 5-30
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I run Motorcraft 5W-20 blend and have no tick and I have 11,200 miles on the car.

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Last month! I was excited when I saw it.


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Old 02-10-2015, 09:33 PM   #14
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Got this in the mail since I am an amsoil preferred customer.


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Old 02-10-2015, 10:46 PM   #15
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you know I am quite curious how this oil will work in the mustang coyote. I have seen other top tier synthetics like redline 5/50 that created high oil pressure problems. Do you have an oil pressure gauge in your car?
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Here is a good thread on the new 5/50
Amsoil Signature Series 5W-50 meets Ford WSS-M2C931-C recommendation
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I don't have an oil pressure gauge in my car but I can hook up my kiwi wifi tomorrow and see where it's at.


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The manual I have lists a part number for the oil recomended. Check your manual for that number. The person at parts department at your dealer could tell you what it is.I see that the blue guy had the best info on his post. I also have seen oil analisys info from 2 different labs and their info caused me to do what I did with the oil on the first change.
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Sorry -- I meant " BIG JAY"when I wrote blue guy on the oil analysis info he posted. He was right, according to what I found out from more than two sources.There are a few parameters to consider in your oil choice, as you are aware of,I am sure.
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Let's keep in mind ford does not require they recommend and as long as your oil meets the same specs you are okay. In the tread I linked above it does go into detail about the high oil pressure the 5/50 creates and is only advised in extreme conditions when these motors push the upper limits of cooling capabilities. Motorcraft 5/50 shears to a light 40 weight in 1500 miles and down to 30 under 5000. 5/50 amzoil is overkill for any street driven car.
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^ I will take overkill on my oil any day.


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Follow the link and start reading. Overkill is not a good thing poor choice of words on my part. Contact the amzoil rep in that thread if you have questions
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You guys do know that there's only one plant that makes synthetic oil. The only difference is the label on the bottle. So you can pay more for a specific brand but it all comes from the same batch.



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[QUOTE=Dr RC;2179975]You guys do know that there's only one plant that makes synthetic oil. The only difference is the label on the bottle. So you can pay more for a specific brand but it all comes from the same batch.



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Do you have a real source that says this?
Iv worked for an oil company and have been to where they manufacture their oil.


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You guys do know that there's only one plant that makes synthetic oil. The only difference is the label on the bottle. So you can pay more for a specific brand but it all comes from the same batch.
Wonderful first post and so far from the truth.
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Wonderful first post and so far from the truth.

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OH yes... all you great car experts. Check the patent on synthetic motor oil bottles and then bar codes for the batch numbers. The patent is held by one company, the bar code batch numbers all trace back to the one plant, and yes I've worked for the company where it's made and then trucked to other companies to be put in a bottle, labeled and distributed. And don't worry, I won't post anything again. As a petroleum AND chemical engineer with 30 years of experience in the synthetic oil industry, I guess I don't know anything that would be of value.
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Is there some conspiracy at Ford? I mean...who do they think they are, trying to tell me to run 5w20 Motorcraft synthetic blend and a Motorcraft filter?
I don't trust a Ford engineer. There must be some reason they're not telling us the truth about how what you really need is some purple oil or Amway oil triple dog super secret double synthetic. 5WD55 , -20w50 etc.
Ok, yes...I'm a hypocrit slightly here... I do run full synthetic 5W20, but only because it may last a tad longer should I have a memory lapse and not change it sooner than I like to...about 5k miles.
The rest of you guys losing sleep over oil types? Holy crap.
I would be more concerned about sending in my own stool sample for analysis for my own health than pondering Fords recommendation on maintaining their own product.
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A quick Google search of "synthetic oil manufactures" shows lots of companies that claim to make it.

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If my company buys it in bulk and then let's says adds something to it, like a drop of red bull or purple dye, then I can claim to have formulated my synth oil and sell it for the premium price it rightfully deserves.
I'm a pretty big car enthusiast and one of my bucket list items would be to tour a Amway, Mobil 1, Redline, etc oil refinery.
Can't find one yet.
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and for clarity I tend to buy whatever full synthetic is on sale. Note this is a V6 (5-20) back on helpful I advocate pulling the fuel pump relay/fuse after changing oil to let the car crank for 2 ten sec cycles under the theory it primes the system. idk if it helps but it's easy and cheap like a good date.
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