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Old 02-09-2015, 06:45 PM   #1
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SCT Tuning Device for Stock 5.0hhhs

Curiosity here.

I understand both Lund and AED use SCT devices to load tunes into the car. Because of that, I'm ordering an SCT x4 device pretty much asap.

Here's where the question lies, and hopefully this may help others debating on it.

I am buying the tuner first before I start doing my engine and exhaust mods. I want to establish a good stock form baseline so I can see really how well these mods are on a s197 5.0

Here are the exact questions

1. If I buy a standard sct x4 device, does it carry any tunes for a straight stock 5.0? If so, how safe or reliable are they?

2. If I buy a bama x4 sct device, can I still switch to AED or Lund ? Or is the device strictly for Bama tunes only?

3. Lastly, it looks like I will be going Lund since there are a bunch of great in house capabilities here in Houston, so is there any consensus for really good stock tunes for manuals through a standard sct device that will retail for 399$? I do not want a true custom tune as of yet(usually $$$ add on to the price). Of course I will datalog regardless to see if the parameters are in alignment with safety standards.

Sorry for the long winded question. Just ready to start adding some horses


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Curiosity here.

I understand both Lund and AED use SCT devices to load tunes into the car. Because of that, I'm ordering an SCT x4 device pretty much asap.

Here's where the question lies, and hopefully this may help others debating on it.

I am buying the tuner first before I start doing my engine and exhaust mods. I want to establish a good stock form baseline so I can see really how well these mods are on a s197 5.0

Here are the exact questions

1. If I buy a standard sct x4 device, does it carry any tunes for a straight stock 5.0? If so, how safe or reliable are they?

2. If I buy a bama x4 sct device, can I still switch to AED or Lund ? Or is the device strictly for Bama tunes only?

3. Lastly, it looks like I will be going Lund since there are a bunch of great in house capabilities here in Houston, so is there any consensus for really good stock tunes for manuals through a standard sct device that will retail for 399$? I do not want a true custom tune as of yet(usually $$$ add on to the price). Of course I will datalog regardless to see if the parameters are in alignment with safety standards.

Sorry for the long winded question. Just ready to start adding some horses


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I would not run an sct can tune on a car.
2. It isn't a bama tuner it is an act tuner with a sticker on it so you can put any other tune on there from other vendors.
3. If you buy the tuner from the company you want your tunes from the 399 should include a tune

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Okay that makes the decision much easier. I will see if the companies here in Houston sell a SCT a tuner with some tunes already on it. If not, what's a great shop elsewhere in the US to look into?


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If you want a Lund tune, why not just get the tuner from them?
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Curiosity here.

I understand both Lund and AED use SCT devices to load tunes into the car. Because of that, I'm ordering an SCT x4 device pretty much asap.

Here's where the question lies, and hopefully this may help others debating on it.

I am buying the tuner first before I start doing my engine and exhaust mods. I want to establish a good stock form baseline so I can see really how well these mods are on a s197 5.0

Here are the exact questions

1. If I buy a standard sct x4 device, does it carry any tunes for a straight stock 5.0? If so, how safe or reliable are they?

2. If I buy a bama x4 sct device, can I still switch to AED or Lund ? Or is the device strictly for Bama tunes only?

3. Lastly, it looks like I will be going Lund since there are a bunch of great in house capabilities here in Houston, so is there any consensus for really good stock tunes for manuals through a standard sct device that will retail for 399$? I do not want a true custom tune as of yet(usually $$$ add on to the price). Of course I will datalog regardless to see if the parameters are in alignment with safety standards.

Sorry for the long winded question. Just ready to start adding some horses
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Good questions here and I'm happy to help out here.

1. If you're to buy an SCT X4 that's not set up with custom tunes to your 5.0 they'll be on the conservative side. Having it custom tuned specifically to your vehicle will yield that much more power for you.

2. If you're to buy any SCT device it can be tuned by essentially anyone but I would definitely recommend the Bama X4 Tuner so their team is able to dial you in.

3. If you'd like to get set up with an order here's what we can do:

You're over 50 posts and you're eligible for our MustangEvolution Discount Code so we can help with the price.

I'll personally walk you through the tuning process along with Bama's lead calibrator and we'll get you set up. After it's delivered I'll have the Bama Team contact you directly so they can get a datalog set up and dial you in even further.

Here's where it gets interesting...I'd like to find out where you live in relation to a dyno shop. I will pay for you to have your car dyno'd with the Bama tunes to prove exactly how powerful and accurate they are. The only catch is that you have to post your dyno results back here in the thread so everyone can see them. We want to get people to dyno their Bama tunes so everyone can see that their product is the same or better quality than any other tune out there!

If you're interested let me know and we can go from there.

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Hey Jvibe92 -

Good questions here and I'm happy to help out here.

1. If you're to buy an SCT X4 that's not set up with custom tunes to your 5.0 they'll be on the conservative side. Having it custom tuned specifically to your vehicle will yield that much more power for you.

2. If you're to buy any SCT device it can be tuned by essentially anyone but I would definitely recommend the Bama X4 Tuner so their team is able to dial you in.

3. If you'd like to get set up with an order here's what we can do:

You're over 50 posts and you're eligible for our MustangEvolution Discount Code so we can help with the price.

I'll personally walk you through the tuning process along with Bama's lead calibrator and we'll get you set up. After it's delivered I'll have the Bama Team contact you directly so they can get a datalog set up and dial you in even further.

Here's where it gets interesting...I'd like to find out where you live in relation to a dyno shop. I will pay for you to have your car dyno'd with the Bama tunes to prove exactly how powerful and accurate they are. The only catch is that you have to post your dyno results back here in the thread so everyone can see them. We want to get people to dyno their Bama tunes so everyone can see that their product is the same or better quality than any other tune out there!

If you're interested let me know and we can go from there.

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Alex, I'd be interested to see BAMA take tunes from their competition and run them on BAMAs dyno.

But not just horsepower, show spark, timing a\f ratio

That would be awesome to see


If nothing else - I've got AED and Lund, you send me a BAMA tune I'd take you up on that offer

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Alex, I'd be interested to see BAMA take tunes from their competition and run them on BAMAs dyno.

But not just horsepower, show spark, timing a\f ratio

That would be awesome to see


If nothing else - I've got AED and Lund, you send me a BAMA tune I'd take you up on that offer

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Eh I don't think a tuning company would run other tunes on their dyno. Seems kind of shady

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Maybe you're right

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Hey Jvibe92 -

Good questions here and I'm happy to help out here.

1. If you're to buy an SCT X4 that's not set up with custom tunes to your 5.0 they'll be on the conservative side. Having it custom tuned specifically to your vehicle will yield that much more power for you.

2. If you're to buy any SCT device it can be tuned by essentially anyone but I would definitely recommend the Bama X4 Tuner so their team is able to dial you in.

3. If you'd like to get set up with an order here's what we can do:

You're over 50 posts and you're eligible for our MustangEvolution Discount Code so we can help with the price.

I'll personally walk you through the tuning process along with Bama's lead calibrator and we'll get you set up. After it's delivered I'll have the Bama Team contact you directly so they can get a datalog set up and dial you in even further.

Here's where it gets interesting...I'd like to find out where you live in relation to a dyno shop. I will pay for you to have your car dyno'd with the Bama tunes to prove exactly how powerful and accurate they are. The only catch is that you have to post your dyno results back here in the thread so everyone can see them. We want to get people to dyno their Bama tunes so everyone can see that their product is the same or better quality than any other tune out there!

If you're interested let me know and we can go from there.

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I wouldn't mind that offer. Let me contact you via DM.


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If you want a Lund tune, why not just get the tuner from them?

They don't sell sct devices with base tunes on them. Neither does AED


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They don't sell sct devices with base tunes on them. Neither does AED
You mean just the programmer with THEIR base tunes or an SCT tune? You don't want to run the tune from SCT. Just get a tuner preloaded with Lund's tune. Easy peasy.
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Yeah the Lund specific tunes are extra I thought?


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You're way over thinking this. Just contact Terry @ Beefcake Racing and he'll set you up with a Lund tune loaded on an SCT tuner ready to go for you.
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You're way over thinking this. Just contact Terry @ Beefcake Racing and he'll set you up with a Lund tune loaded on an SCT tuner ready to go for you.
+1 he was very solid.

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You can get an X4 from Beefcake right now with a preloaded Lund tune for $475.
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Well wouldnt I have to do 200$ to do custom regardless? Through lund


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I've written a few reviews on my experience with SCT and Tuning.

Buy the combo of tuner and Lund tune from beefcake.

Load said tune.

Download live link

Email Lund for his datalogging parameters or find them here. I've posted them I know.

Do datalog. Send to Lund

Wait for further instructions. IE, tune is good or load the adjusted tune he does. The datalog is included in the initial purchase of the programmer with preloaded tune. Jon will also adjust tunes for mods for free.


Or if you want someone who is anal and picky, stop by AED.


I have both companies AED and Lund and suggest them both. However they are each different in how they approach things.

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I have the Lund and aed tunes. Both are good but the aed tune is more refined.

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Everyone here seems to use Lund. I'll give him Shaun a call and see if he has any recommendations here in Houston for running a remote tuning session. I wouldn't mind trying bama out and showing their results if AM is still okay with doing that deal since I need an SCT handheld anyways. Maybe after I get my mods ready to install, I'll try out AED and see how they make gains in comparison


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Everyone here seems to use Lund. I'll give him Shaun a call and see if he has any recommendations here in Houston for running a remote tuning session. I wouldn't mind trying bama out and showing their results if AM is still okay with doing that deal since I need an SCT handheld anyways. Maybe after I get my mods ready to install, I'll try out AED and see how they make gains in comparison


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I ran a Bama tune on my car and I ran lean. I don't suggest doing it unless it's for a very limited amount of time


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I mean if bama is so conservative then why is this happening?


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Because they send u a tune that is made for basically every car like yours on the road. It isn't "custom". That's why it's called a "canned" tune. If u want a good tune. Look no further than lund or aed or vmp is what I am running.


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Because they send u a tune that is made for basically every car like yours on the road. It isn't "custom". That's why it's called a "canned" tune. If u want a good tune. Look no further than lund or aed or vmp is what I am running.


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Idk if he does those or not.


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I mean if bama is so conservative then why is this happening?
Why do they continue to hire different people to write their tunes? Because they can't get it right.
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Never had a problem with bama
And you never owned one of these cars. So why do you continue to share your experiences on a car you don't own?
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19K miles on my Bama tune, and while it is probably not as aggressive as AED or Lund, it has held up well with no problems. I am going to give the V2 tunes a try and see what difference there is and go from there.
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Put on the new 93R V2 tune on yesterday, the low speed cold bucking is completely gone and the engine runs smoother. Driveability is very different, more refined feeling.
Data logging and a track comparison will be coming when I get the time.
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Alex, I'd be interested to see BAMA take tunes from their competition and run them on BAMAs dyno. But not just horsepower, show spark, timing a\f ratio .That would be awesome to see - If nothing else - I've got AED and Lund, you send me a BAMA tune I'd take you up on that offer
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Good question and we actually don’t! There’s plenty of threads like this out there where I simply just want to educate members here that what Bama has to offer is right on par with the competition. I’ve even stated that I do not care what we’re running our tune against, nor do I even want to know! We just want to prove that what Bama has is right there with the competition.


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Eh I don't think a tuning company would run other tunes on their dyno. Seems kind of shady

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We aren't trying to do anything shady and have no problem testing on a third party dyno as long as we're there (we want to make sure that it's being conducted properly as well). We also have no problem doing it here on our Dynojet 224xLC and letting people watch and provide datalogs to prove there were no tricks. We're a really honest company and we just want to show that there are alot of people who badmouth Bama for no good reason. Bama's tunes have been completely revamped for a long time now and their latest V2 tunes will match or beat any competing tune.

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I wouldn't mind that offer. Let me contact you via DM.

Hey – I received your PM and I’ll be in touch shortly!


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I ran a Bama tune on my car and I ran lean. I don't suggest doing it unless it's for a very limited amount of time
Hey danixenia


Well this is definitely no way to have your 2nd post put up! I’m really sorry to hear about that but did you contact Bama about this? Did they get a datalog setup? Their new V2 Tunes are awesome and will definitely not make you run lean!



Please shoot me a PM with your order and contact info and I’m happy to personally make this right for you!


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Because they send u a tune that is made for basically every car like yours on the road. It isn't "custom". That's why it's called a "canned" tune. If u want a good tune. Look no further than lund or aed or vmp is what I am running.
Cali -


I'd love to clear some of this up for everyone..


1. You proceed to the website
2. Place order
3. Receive Confirmation
4. Submit Tuning info/specs/modifications/PCM/Tire Size/Gears/Mods
5. Tuner then pulls up your PCM and then has your tune built.




Custom implies that the tuning that’s being done is unique to your PCM and your modifications. Canned is analogous to generic or general which doesn't take into consideration any vehicle modifications such as Cold Air Intake, Long Tube Headers, etc. If Bama was sending out canned tunes they wouldn't be asking for this info!



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Put on the new 93R V2 tune on yesterday, the low speed cold bucking is completely gone and the engine runs smoother. Driveability is very different, more refined feeling.
Data logging and a track comparison will be coming when I get the time.
Scott,


Thanks for taking the time to have this posted up. I'm really happy to hear that you're enjoying the V2's as much as I do! Let me know if there's anything I can help out with, I'm always around.



If anyone has any other questions, I'm here to help!



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