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Old 02-16-2015, 06:10 PM   #1
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Performance Difference 19" VS. 20" Wheels?

I currently have the stock 2013 GT Premium wheels that are 19x8.5 I believe (not Brembo package). Still has the original PZERO Nero 245/45R19 tires. I'm wanting to upgrade to staggered 20x8.5 (255/35-20) & 20x10 (275/35-20) MMD Zeven wheels with Mickey Thompson Street Comps (link for American Muscle shown below). I'm wonder what the change in performance will be? Mainly acceleration. I like the way 20" wheels look, I'm just not sure of the trade off. Hopefully someone has some knowledge they can lend me.

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Is this going to be a daily driver, occasional race track, or ????
I really like the look of your car now with the OE wheels. Are you going to lower it when you put the wheels/tires on or leave it stock height?
What do you mean by "a change in the performance"? Will the tires and wheels make the car faster........no. Will the car corner better.............yes, if you lower it and no if you don't.
I'm not sure how much your stock 19" wheels weigh, but there is chance the 20's will add to the unsprung weight of car which could hurt performance unless you do some other suspension modifications.
Also noticed you have an Airaid CAI, do you also have a tune?
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Performance will suffer more with the 20" wheels because of the weight of them. But if you like the looks of them then you shouldn't let that sway your decision.
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Is this going to be a daily driver, occasional race track, or ????
I really like the look of your car now with the OE wheels. Are you going to lower it when you put the wheels/tires on or leave it stock height?
What do you mean by "a change in the performance"? Will the tires and wheels make the car faster........no. Will the car corner better.............yes, if you lower it and no if you don't.
I'm not sure how much your stock 19" wheels weigh, but there is chance the 20's will add to the unsprung weight of car which could hurt performance unless you do some other suspension modifications.
Also noticed you have an Airaid CAI, do you also have a tune?
Thanks I like the look too but I'm wanting to get wider tires, and I think 20's look good. I plan on leaving it stock height for now and its my daily driver currently. Performance I am wonder about is mainly acceleration. I've looked online for the stock wheel weight and haven't had any luck so far. The CAI same on the car when I bought it, no tune.
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I currently have the stock 2013 GT Premium wheels that are 19x8.5 I believe (not Brembo package). Still has the original PZERO Nero 245/45R19 tires. I'm wanting to upgrade to staggered 20x8.5 (255/35-20) & 20x10 (275/35-20) MMD Zeven wheels with Mickey Thompson Street Comps (link for American Muscle shown below). I'm wonder what the change in performance will be? Mainly acceleration. I like the way 20" wheels look, I'm just not sure of the trade off. Hopefully someone has some knowledge they can lend me.



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Changing the wheels 1" shouldn't change anything having to do with acceleration


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Changing the wheels 1" shouldn't change anything having to do with acceleration
Of course it will. You're adding upspring weight.
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Thanks I like the look too but I'm wanting to get wider tires, and I think 20's look good. I plan on leaving it stock height for now and its my daily driver currently. Performance I am wonder about is mainly acceleration. I've looked online for the stock wheel weight and haven't had any luck so far. The CAI same on the car when I bought it, no tune.
I also bought mine with an Airaid CAI, although mine came with the tuner............it only had 2700 miles when I bought it last year.
If you really want to wake up that Coyote, put a tune in it, that will certainly change the acceleration performance.
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Of course it will. You're adding upspring weight.

Barely. Didn't notice a thing when I switched from 19x9 to 20x8.5 and 20x10


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That's the setup im looking at, albeit with a 305-35 tire instead of 275. Ask AM to price match tires with summit, might end up getting it for cheap. My only worry is clearance with such a wide wheel, especially with a 1.5" drop. Hopefully someone will chime in.
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I did a 1.5 drop with my car it sits now on 285/30/20s and no rubbing yet.


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I don't think 285 would rub, I'm just confused about 305s since I read somewhere it becomes an issue if you have lowered your car
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I'm lowered 1.5" as well and am curious to see what I'll be able to fit on my 19x10 rears.


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I'm lowered 1.5 with 305/35/20, no rubbing at all


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I'm lowered 1.5 with 305/35/20, no rubbing at all


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That's good to know. Offset of your rears?


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Ahhhh ok. My rears are +35. I'm not concerned with an insane amount of meat back there, just curious as to what I can actually fit.


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Ahhhh ok. My rears are +35. I'm not concerned with an insane amount of meat back there, just curious as to what I can actually fit.


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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that...


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Lmao remove your minds from the gutter boys lol. I'd say "rubber", but I think that's pushing it as well. I'll use "tires" from now on, k?


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What wheels and tires are you running? Can you please post a few pictures? How far are you from the inner sidewall?
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Anyone have the size current setup I'm talking about in my first post? I'm wanting some pictures to see what it looks like. See how wide the tires are on the back.


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I don't think 285 would rub, I'm just confused about 305s since I read somewhere it becomes an issue if you have lowered your car
I run 315 up front with plenty of clearance for extra tire.
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What wheels and tires are you running? Can you please post a few pictures? How far are you from the inner sidewall?

Wheels are amr's 20x10
Tire is Cooper zeon rs3-s 305/35/20
Which are almost the same exact tire as the street comp because cooper owns mickey thompson.
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Anyone have the size current setup I'm talking about in my first post? I'm wanting some pictures to see what it looks like. See how wide the tires are on the back.


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See my post above because your rears will be +45 offset which is pretty damn close to my +48 offset


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Wheels are amr's 20x10
Tire is Cooper zeon rs3-s 305/35/20
Which are almost the same exact tire as the street comp because cooper owns mickey thompson.
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That looks great. How low are you? 1.5"?


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I currently have the stock 2013 GT Premium wheels that are 19x8.5 I believe (not Brembo package). Still has the original PZERO Nero 245/45R19 tires. I'm wanting to upgrade to staggered 20x8.5 (255/35-20) & 20x10 (275/35-20) MMD Zeven wheels with Mickey Thompson Street Comps (link for American Muscle shown below). I'm wonder what the change in performance will be? Mainly acceleration. I like the way 20" wheels look, I'm just not sure of the trade off. Hopefully someone has some knowledge they can lend me.

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Hey Rosco,

Great question! I debated this back and forth myself.

Going up in wheel size will in turn increase your rotational mass which can slow you down.

That being said, weight plays the biggest factor in this and luckily the Zevens have performance in mind and are a fairly light wheel! Under 30 LBS if I remember correctly!

I would say go with the Zeven Wheel and Tire Kit for sure! You will not be disappointed. I have a set going on my car come spring!

Hope this helps and let me know if you have any questions!

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20s are all about looks
18s are for performance
19 are in the middle of both

There is a reason the spec racing mustangs (Boss 302r & 302s) run 18's all around.

If i was to do it all over again I would have just stuck with 19's all around, I cant put too small of a wheel up front because i want the right fitment and that means scrubbing the driveway on 18s.

I'm on 19's front, 20's rear:
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That is one beautiful Mustang you have!!!!
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That looks great. How low are you? 1.5"?


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20s are all about looks
18s are for performance
19 are in the middle of both

There is a reason the spec racing mustangs (Boss 302r & 302s) run 18's all around.

If i was to do it all over again I would have just stuck with 19's all around, I cant put too small of a wheel up front because i want the right fitment and that means scrubbing the driveway on 18s.

I'm on 19's front, 20's rear:

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And cool Luis. Then hopefully I can fit a 285 or 295 out back.


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I am debating this as well. Please post pictures up if you pull the trigger on those Zeven rims. I love them in the charcoal.

Hey AMWill, is there anyway to get the exact weight of the rims? I noticed you guys don't have them on your site either.
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It all has to do with weight.

There are some high end 20's that are around the same weight or even lighter than OEM 19"s. The problem is you're talking about mediocre 20's, which are going to increase your overall wheel/tire package weight, which every 1 lb of unsprung mass is like adding 4-5 lbs of regular weight.

If you're going to get new wheels.... CHECK THE WEIGHTS... don't buy on looks alone. Find wheels that are lighter than your current set up.

Getting cheap wheels for your car is liking getting a super fast gaming PC but then playing it on a 12" monitor. Or buying a nice stereo and hooking it up to cheap small radio shack speakers. Don't go cheap the wheels are your interface to the road.
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I am debating this as well. Please post pictures up if you pull the trigger on those Zeven rims. I love them in the charcoal.

Hey AMWill, is there anyway to get the exact weight of the rims? I noticed you guys don't have them on your site either.
Hey 50h,

I'll see what I can do for you

What size were you looking to get the weight on?

Let me know and I can definitely get the info for you!

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My '13 with Forgestar F14's 20x9/20x11 with Nitto Invo's 275/35's & 315/35's. The wheels are suppose to be light weight, although I don't know what they weigh. No rubbing or other problems. The handling is different, which I'm getting used to,(I'm trying different PSI's) but I like the look.

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