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Old 03-10-2015, 11:02 AM   #36
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Buy a Cobrajet, I mean, why not?
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If you bought a 2011/2012 GT500 it already has a good crank/rods/pistons and you can play round with it and add any mods you want......................or you can go out and look for a car that someone has spent a lot of money on and is now tired of it.
Kind of like this one,

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Or buy something that isn't going to loose a lot of money once you start to modify it, as long as you keep all of the stock parts you take off..........like this,

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you can buy a GT I'd personally buy a 13/14, as the verdict is still out on the 15.
You aren't destitute, so find a cheap 11/12 Mustang GT, buy an
Aluminator motor.............put it in and not be afraid of throwing a 250 shot of juice to it..............just a thought.

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Manley rods Diamond pistons. Screw a aluminator

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Manley rods Diamond pistons. Screw a aluminator

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Personally I prefer Crower rods/crank and Probe pistons, but can you get a Coyote built for about the price of the Aluminator plus the price of the used Coyote motor?
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I have a little over 6k in my shortblock. Thats pistons, rods, headeork valves etc, full ARP hardware, oil gears, MMR chain guides etc

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I have a little over 6k in my shortblock. Thats pistons, rods, headeork valves etc, full ARP hardware, oil gears, MMR chain guides etc

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Was that on the motor you had, or did you purchase a separate Coyote and build on that?
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Was that on the motor you had, or did you purchase a separate Coyote and build on that?
Motor I had

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Throw in the Boss 302 as an option and I'd rather have that. Its a limited edition car, it has a better motor and suspension. I like going to road courses, so I was really close to getting a Boss 302.

The only reason I didn't get one is b/c I really wanted something the wife could drive this time (meant Automatic only - no Boss or GT500). Then getting a soft top for nice weather days was a bonus.
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Throw in the Boss 302 as an option and I'd rather have that. Its a limited edition car, it has a better motor and suspension. I like going to road courses, so I was really close to getting a Boss 302.

The only reason I didn't get one is b/c I really wanted something the wife could drive this time (meant Automatic only - no Boss or GT500). Then getting a soft top for nice weather days was a bonus.
Motor is questionable. Budget stuff

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Throw in the Boss 302 as an option and I'd rather have that. Its a limited edition car, it has a better motor and suspension. I like going to road courses, so I was really close to getting a Boss 302.

The only reason I didn't get one is b/c I really wanted something the wife could drive this time (meant Automatic only - no Boss or GT500). Then getting a soft top for nice weather days was something I could do with a GT.
Well, you must be young. It was nice to include you're wife. For mine I just bought her a separate car, and she can drive in the passenger seat when we take the Mustang out for drives. I let me wife drive my 97 Cobra...............that was the last time she drove my car.
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Motor is questionable. Budget stuff

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Are you talking about the rods/pistons, or the motor in general?
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Are you talking about the rods/pistons, or the motor in general?
The block is the stock block the car came with. Just replaced the pistons,rods, etc.

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The block is the stock block the car came with. Just replaced the pistons,rods, etc.

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Nvm I thought you were asking about mine.



To answer your question. Yes the rods/pistons are not that great in thr boss. Budget build stuff

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Nvm I thought you were asking about mine.



To answer your question. Yes the rods/pistons are not that great in thr boss. Budget build stuff

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Tok, I thought you were talking about the Boss motor when you made the comment. Rods/pistons have been an issue with every Mod motor.............an easy fix with good rods/pistons/rings/bearings...........then you should be able to pound the *%ll out of it without a lot of worrying what's going to come through the block first.
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My stock pistons went at 611hp at the tires. Ran 4 ever at 550 though

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Thanks for the input so far. I'm going to be looking at insurance rates today and that might narrow down some things. All the input is greatly appreciated!


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Get the 2015 GT. Don't worry about adding power save that for later, when the warranty is out then drop a supercharger in it & be done.

In a year, when everyone has gotten used to the new design & suddenly likes it your 2015 will be in fashion.

Also in a year or 2, the "older" GT or GT500 will really start looking old. Its not like you're driving an old beater, but it also won't look like you're driving a brand new car. Where your 2015 GT will look like all the other brand new 2016 & 2017's still coming off the lot.

Point is you'll be happy with the 2015 a lot longer, b/c it will look like a new car AND have that 3 year warranty. If you get the GT or GT500, you're going to start fiddling with it, break it, reduce reliability and also get tired of the "old looks".

This is my exact appeal of the 2015. By the time I'm through a 5 year finance, Ford will just be releasing the newest Mustang.


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This is my exact appeal of the 2015. By the time I'm through a 5 year finance, Ford will just be releasing the newest Mustang.


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But, you'll have all the new model problems buying a 2015.
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That being said, I'd still buy an EB PP, or GT Premium PP, in Black, silver, or Ruby Red.
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Price and insurance on a GT500 are more. The 2013/14 GT500's are the best. If you like the new body style then buy that. A GT350 would be nice, but dealer markup will be through the roof and then there's the insurance. If not, go with a 2013/14 GT and add blower. Track packs are nice but what ever you buy, your probably going to modify, so then start with the less expensive base car and work from there.
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Which to buy? GT or GT500.

Got estimated insurance quotes and the '11 GT is the cheapest. The '15 GT is $60 more a month, and the '11 GT500 is $50 more on top of that. Those quotes are all based off of Progressive quotes. They also gave me a quote for the GT500 from State Farm and it is the same quote price as the '11 GT from Progressive. I'm sure that the other models will correlate with the trend given to me by Progressive with other insurance companies as well.

Also, I'm not a huge fan of the facelift of the '13-'14 GT. So if anything, it would be an '11-'12 GT.


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But isn't that what warranty is for?


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If you want a car that looks like the original mustang don't get a 15.
Why not get a leftover 14.
or a certified preowned
13 or 14 they have a better than new warranty.
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Buy a Cobrajet, I mean, why not?
Can't get it licensed for the street.....................race only.
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Can't get it licensed for the street.....................race only.

Details, details.
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Details, details.
When I sold my B/SM drag car last year I had a chance to buy one of the first Cobra Jet cars from the guy that bought mine, unfortunately you are not able to licensed on the street or I may have thought about it...............yes............it would have required a few $$$$$ along with my car/trailer/spares......etc.
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Of course I was kidding👍
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Price and insurance on a GT500 are more. The 2013/14 GT500's are the best. If you like the new body style then buy that. A GT350 would be nice, but dealer markup will be through the roof and then there's the insurance. If not, go with a 2013/14 GT and add blower. Track packs are nice but what ever you buy, your probably going to modify, so then start with the less expensive base car and work from there.
Granted a 13/14 GT500 would be nice, but I haven't seen any with fairly low mileage go for under $50k. With $6000 down and 72 months that's $750 a month, and with 60 month financing it would at least $850 a month............that's a fair chunk of change in anyone's book. The one good thing is that you wouldn't need any power adders and it's still covered under warranty..............hopefully.
TrackPak cars aren't much more expensive than regular GT's, I bought mine with 2700 miles for under $26k, and that was mid last year.

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Got estimated insurance quotes and the '11 GT is the cheapest. The '15 GT is $60 more a month, and the '11 GT500 is $50 more on top of that. Those quotes are all based off of Progressive quotes. They also gave me a quote for the GT500 from State Farm and it is the same quote price as the '11 GT from Progressive. I'm sure that the other models will correlate with the trend given to me by Progressive with other insurance companies as well.

Also, I'm not a huge fan of the facelift of the '13-'14 GT. So if anything, it would be an '11-'12 GT.



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I am paying $75 a month for my 14GT, and it would cost me $23 more each month to buy a 2012 GT500. My coverage is pretty high with very small deductible and $2Million liablilty...........and I am a little older also.
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My friend is looking at possibly adding me to his insurance policy since I'm on a single plan and it should drop my rate some. Right now it's $100 a month, but I'm thinking it'll drop to about $60 which is what it was at one point when I was still on my mothers plan and not financially independent. He's going to get quotes on the 2015 GT and 2011 GT500 for me as well.


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Another insurance factor is if your car is considered your primary car or not. Not sure what you have now, but keeping it might actually pay for itself. An example is that I bought a 96 ranger as a project. I got plates and insurance for it just to drive it home basically. When I called the insurance co they said adding it actually cost me 100.00 LESS every 6 months (back when I had my Tacoma)! And that was saying I was only going to drive it 1000 miles a year. Tell them you plan to split the miles between the 2 and the savings might even get better. I pulled the truck apart 5 min after I got home with it but I keep it registered and insured because it saves me 250 every 6 months now with my 14 GT.

Just a thought.
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I'll have to look into that!


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GT500!!! Or go buy some stocks...


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Which to buy? GT or GT500.

Been looking at some nice Kona Blue GT500s with low miles. Super enticing.

I guess what it's starting to come down to is a few components between a '10-'12 GT500 and '15 GT Premium.

1) Which rides better and has more comfort?
2) Which will responds better to mods?
3) How much is maintenance of a GT500 per year?
4) How hard is it to work on a GT500 vs 5.0?


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The GT500's are still more expensive and your probably going to want to modify it as well. Again if you like the new body style then go that way, if not do the GT. Try to get at least a brembo brake and the add lower springs and a blower and you'll be happy. FRPP keeps boost down to 9psi and consider that safe for stock internals. And the 13/14 GT500 is the best. It was a step change from prior GT500's. Too bad there over priced.
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I have driven a 12 GT500 and other than the power and great shifting trans it felt a lot like my 14 TrakPak GT before I lowered it, although it felt a lot more planted.
I've also driven a 15 GT w/Performance Pack, equipped exactly as my 14 TrakPak GT. The difference in ride, it was just a nicer feeling and softer, since my 14 is lowered with Sportllines and still wears the factory TrakPak struts/shocks. The 15 felt very well planted especially on twisty roads.
I was told by the parts manager that I would really need to replace the half shafts with aftermarket if I was really going to take the car and beat on it as they have had a few people have some issues, breaking the half shafts. Kind of reminds me of the IRS on the older SVT Cobras years back, and this is the reason I didn't get a 15 over the 14. If I was going to buy a new car I think I'd wait for the dust to settle on the 15 before buying one.
Although the GT500 has 100+hp more than my 14, part of that HP is eaten up by the extra 400lbs in weight, it's just that the 5.4l does put out more hp/tq, and the internal pieces are a lot better than what is in the Coyote............plus it already has something on top of the motor to potentially make more power without spending a lot of money..............IMHO
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