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Kooks Headers 8 72.73%
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:06 PM   #1
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Yes another one, just want opinions on brands

Looking to take the plunge into a set of long tubes with matching o/r x-pipe. Just wanting to see what you guys think of each brand. Why one would be better than the other? Which one would suck the most for installing? Which one might make more power even though they will all be pretty identical? I mean if you're spending the money and choice A makes 3 more hp than choice B go with choice A right?

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Old 03-23-2015, 02:45 PM   #2
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Yes another one, just want opinions on brands

I'd stick with the top brands, ARH, stainless works, Kooks, but if you really need to save money, I'd get JBA followed by Pypes. they're all going to have about the same gains, and install of all them will be tedious, I have the Pypes and while I'm happy with the quality ( appearance wise) the fit left much to be desired, my first driver's side header contacted the floor board, they replaced it no questions asked, lol the replacement header contacted the steering shaft I mean wtf!!!!!! I used a few spacers under the motor mount and didn't look back. for this reason, stick to the top brands I mentioned first


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Old 03-24-2015, 09:37 AM   #4
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have kooks and love them. no fitment issues
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Old 03-24-2015, 01:42 PM   #6
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The Kooks look and perform great, but from the pics I see, it looks like they would be the worst to install. Everyone else keeps their pipes close together and yes I know that would mean they aren't equal length. And the Kooks I assume are equal length its just that stray pipe hanging way out there kind makes me feel like it would make it way harder to get up in there. Is that not the case?
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Old 03-24-2015, 02:25 PM   #7
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all are going to be a PITA.
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Old 03-24-2015, 03:08 PM   #8
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Stainless works. Stainless power is the same thing but contracted out for the labor, therefor it may not be the same build quality or same warranty.
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Because the Kooks are a mid length they will be a little more difficult to install. Especially the 1 7/8 primaries. If E85 is going to be used then the Kooks are the only ones that won't cause 02 sensor problems. But the ARH are of the finest quality and ironically are former Kooks employees.
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Because the Kooks are a mid length they will be a little more difficult to install. Especially the 1 7/8 primaries. If E85 is going to be used then the Kooks are the only ones that won't cause 02 sensor problems. But the ARH are of the finest quality and ironically are former Kooks employees.
Why does the Kooks being mid length make them harder to install? And why are Kooks the only ones that won't cause O2 problems with E85?
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I meant equal length not mid length although they are both. They are harder to install due to the way the primaries run.

O2 placement is ideal on these headers as there will be no moisture buildup. Something that can be a problem even on regular gas.
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Old 03-24-2015, 05:29 PM   #12
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Yes top brands like arh or kooks , O2 bung is tilted down in those and you won't have headaches from moister and fuel on the o2 sensor, if you get another brand have that bung plugged and another one welded in the right way

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Just don't get Pypes. Every time someone brings up their Pypes woes at car meets I just laugh in their face. Don't ask me what I'd do to their facility if given the opportunity.
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Just don't get Pypes. Every time someone brings up their Pypes woes at car meets I just laugh in their face. Don't ask me what I'd do to their facility if given the opportunity.
I definitely would not buy anything from them besides axlebacks

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I definitely would not buy anything from them besides axlebacks

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They can't even get axle-backs right. Man I had a friend who complained for months about her driver-side tail pipe not aligning correctly and rattling... Completely backing up all of the reviews on AM.
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They can't even get axle-backs right. Man I had a friend who complained for months about her driver-side tail pipe not aligning correctly and rattling... Completely backing up all of the reviews on AM.
Eh my violators have been fine so far. No weep holes though

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I meant equal length not mid length although they are both. They are harder to install due to the way the primaries run.

O2 placement is ideal on these headers as there will be no moisture buildup. Something that can be a problem even on regular gas.
Yeah equal length, that makes sense. Of course from all the pics I've seen, they definitely look like they would suck the most to install. Maybe I need to go look at the pics more to see where the O2 bung placement is.
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The only thing I can tell is that the collector on the Kooks is higher in the car and therefore the O2 would be in a place where the pipe in sloped down at an angle. Where as the others run all their primaries down to basically parallel to the ground then into a collector so the O2 is in a horizontal section.

Well I was leaning towards the Stainless Works before but now no one is really speaking up for them so maybe not. Maybe it was just seeing all those SW Army stickers all over Street Outlaws lol. Or the fact that I can get their setup cheaper than anyone elses.
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Yes another one, just want opinions on brands

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Just don't get Pypes. Every time someone brings up their Pypes woes at car meets I just laugh in their face. Don't ask me what I'd do to their facility if given the opportunity.
they're not that bad, I mean I wouldn't buy them again but once on and getting the motor mount shimmed to stop the steering shaft from rubbing, they are holding up nicely on my daily driver, and they made nice power, for the $900 I paid I'm happy in the end

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I definitely would not buy anything from them besides axlebacks

too bad they sound awful


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they're not that bad, I mean I wouldn't buy them again but once on and getting the motor mount shimmed to stop the steering shaft from rubbing, they are holding up nicely on my daily driver, and they made nice power, for the $900 I paid I'm happy in the end




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I like the sounds of the violators and my jba long tubes

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All I know is I can get JBA LTs + O/R H-pipe for $700 shipped. That price may only include a natural stainless finish but they're quality headers w/o welds everywhere like in the Pypes (have a buddy who is unfortunately struggling with leaks in his new Pypes headers).

As far as their sound goes, their violators are decent but not fond of their race bullets, which I think Borla absolutely trumps Pypes in that category.
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All I know is I can get JBA LTs + O/R H-pipe for $700 shipped. That price may only include a natural stainless finish but they're quality headers w/o welds everywhere like in the Pypes (have a buddy who is unfortunately struggling with leaks in his new Pypes headers).

As far as their sound goes, their violators are decent but not fond of their race bullets, which I think Borla absolutely trumps Pypes in that category.
$600 mufflers should trump 260 dollar ones lol. Jba headers is really well priced though.I am happy withthem

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I'll have to get back under my car to look at the o2 placement on the stainless works. I had yet to hear anything bad about them when I was shopping which is why I chose them out of the three combined with the price.
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$600 mufflers should trump 260 dollar ones lol. Jba headers is really well priced though.I am happy withthem

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I almost pulled the trigger last week on JBA headers, how did they affect your exhaust? Much louder? Deeper? With the cams and O/R H on my car, I don't know what to expect
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I almost pulled the trigger last week on JBA headers, how did they affect your exhaust? Much louder? Deeper? With the cams and O/R H on my car, I don't know what to expect
It would be loud for you my friend. Gives it a nice pissed off growl

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I'm running the ARH 1 7/8 with their o/r h. Fitment was perfect, no issues so far.


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Well so far its 8 votes for Kooks and 1 a piece to ARH and SW. They are obviously the only ones that are way different than the rest but are they that much better?
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