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Old 04-10-2015, 08:16 PM   #1
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Hydraulic e-brake

I've been looking at getting an ASD hydraulic e-brake down the road when I upgrade to the '14 GT. Only thing is, is it difficult to swap the stock parking brake to the hydraulic e-brake and then back to parking brake when I please? I know nothing about the hydraulic e-brakes other than they won't pass inspection. I've been looking everywhere for an answer but can't seem to find one. I will only get it if it really is simple to swap out. Again, I know NOTHING about the hydraulic e-brake so excuse my ignorance.
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What are trying to accomplish by putting that type of set-up? What are your plans for your car?
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Like I said, I don't know anything about it which is why I came on here.


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It's not beyond the realm of possibility to have both systems functioning, cable and hydro. You'd just need to find a place to mount the new handle that has easy access for use when drifting.

It's a complex install for someone who admittedly doesn't know anything. What you are doing is tapping into the hydraulic system that runs the rear brake in normal operation and patching this in. That may make the ABS and traction/stab control systems go into a tizzy. No way to know til you do it.

I'd say for drifting, this car may need a bit more actual rear brake. These are pretty small and soft when they activate.
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It's not beyond the realm of possibility to have both systems functioning, cable and hydro. You'd just need to find a place to mount the new handle that has easy access for use when drifting.



It's a complex install for someone who admittedly doesn't know anything. What you are doing is tapping into the hydraulic system that runs the rear brake in normal operation and patching this in. That may make the ABS and traction/stab control systems go into a tizzy. No way to know til you do it.



I'd say for drifting, this car may need a bit more actual rear brake. These are pretty small and soft when they activate.

So basically if I put it on it should be on for a while?


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Yes.
It isn't something that you will be able to quickly remove.

A 5 litre should have enough power to drift without using the parking brake. You just need to use a different technique to get the car sideways.
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Pardon? I don't understand your question.
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Well, not if its a 3.7 it won't.....Just kidding, it is a 14 gt...You still need the E to help manage the drift...it's more than just blowing the tires off.
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Yes.

It isn't something that you will be able to quickly remove.



A 5 litre should have enough power to drift without using the parking brake. You just need to use a different technique to get the car sideways.

You answered my second question. And you basically answered my first too. One more, if I choose to install it, will I need to make modifications to the parking brake area for the hydraulic e-brake to fit?


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Well, not if its a 3.7 it won't.....Just kidding, it is a 14 gt...You still need the E to help manage the drift...it's more than just blowing the tires off.

And yes, it would go on the 5.0.


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You answered my second question. And you basically answered my first too. One more, if I choose to install it, will I need to make modifications to the parking brake area for the hydraulic e-brake to fit?


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And yes, it would go on the 5.0.


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I have no first hand experience with this, but I would imagine that there will be a fair amount of "custom" work to install it.
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Yeah, lets just apply a wee jigger of common sense here: It's a one-size-fits-all part that work completely differently than the factory component. You can bet significant modification would be required to make it work.

Besides, the factory e-brake is in a terrible place for a drift car. You'd want it standing up vertically and to the right of the shifter, so your hand can move naturally between them and you have high leverage.
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Yeah, lets just apply a wee jigger of common sense here: It's a one-size-fits-all part that work completely differently than the factory component. You can bet significant modification would be required to make it work.



Besides, the factory e-brake is in a terrible place for a drift car. You'd want it standing up vertically and to the right of the shifter, so your hand can move naturally between them and you have high leverage.

Like I said. I know nothing about this. I came on here because I wanted to know more about it. Thanks for your answer anyway.


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I'm just going to say this since it hasn't been said.

Drift car= not daily driver

So you wouldn't need to pass inspection and have 2 different ebrakes

If you know nothing about hydraulic e brakes, I'm guessing you are a novice "drifter" and I wouldn't recommend you start with a 25000 $$$ car. Why not get a 10-15 year old RWD anything else car and then you can gut it out and do it right? I am trying to understand why you would want to do this to a NEW car unless your made of money and or sponsored which I'm going to go out on a limb and say your not?
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I'm just going to say this since it hasn't been said.

Drift car= not daily driver

So you wouldn't need to pass inspection and have 2 different ebrakes

If you know nothing about hydraulic e brakes, I'm guessing you are a novice "drifter" and I wouldn't recommend you start with a 25000 $$$ car. Why not get a 10-15 year old RWD anything else car and then you can gut it out and do it right? I am trying to understand why you would want to do this to a NEW car unless your made of money and or sponsored which I'm going to go out on a limb and say your not?

Honestly, The idea just seemed really cool at the time of making the post. Along with that, I have been searching for info on the hydraulic e-brake and couldn't find anything anywhere, so I turned to this forum. Thank you for your response!


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I'm just going to say this since it hasn't been said.

Drift car= not daily driver

So you wouldn't need to pass inspection and have 2 different ebrakes

If you know nothing about hydraulic e brakes, I'm guessing you are a novice "drifter" and I wouldn't recommend you start with a 25000 $$$ car. Why not get a 10-15 year old RWD anything else car and then you can gut it out and do it right? I am trying to understand why you would want to do this to a NEW car unless your made of money and or sponsored which I'm going to go out on a limb and say your not?
This^^^

Your suspension will be so ungodly stiff and unstable that you will not want to daily drive that car.

Its also not a matter of IF you hit something, but WHEN. Go get a 240sx, 90% of the ones on the road people have already turned into decent drift cars, they are set up really well for it, and they are DIRT CHEAP. I'm talking $1,000-3,000 tops.

As for the Ebrake, don't worry about that. Learn how to flick the car side to side before worrying about the Ebrake.
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I used to autocross with some guys who used a brand new BMW M-series as their drifting platform. They beat the ever-living crap out of it! Lol
It was completely covered with cone rash and they tore the air dam off of it at least a couple of times!
I'm not sure if they were "made of money" or not but I know that they weren't sponsored.
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I used to autocross with some guys who used a brand new BMW M-series as their drifting platform. They beat the ever-living crap out of it! Lol

It was completely covered with cone rash and they tore the air dam off of it at least a couple of times!

I'm not sure if they were "made of money" or not but I know that they weren't sponsored.

Just dumb I suppose.
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I used to autocross with some guys who used a brand new BMW M-series as their drifting platform. They beat the ever-living crap out of it! Lol
It was completely covered with cone rash and they tore the air dam off of it at least a couple of times!
I'm not sure if they were "made of money" or not but I know that they weren't sponsored.
On the contrary! He was at the track day at Thunderhill, he is a track instructor.... That BMW is FAST, he came up on my tail from out of nowhere and was riding my bumper through corners until i was able to let him pass. I'll see if i have any video of it.

That car definitely is something that he uses, its built for a purpose.... performance.
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Just dumb I suppose.
I used to think that it was needlessly destructive,... Until I saw the ear-to-ear grin on those guys faces as they were going around the track.
Then I understood.
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The dude is skilled. I'll definitely say that. Made my car look like a stock civic on the track.
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On the contrary! He was at the track day at Thunderhill, he is a track instructor.... That BMW is FAST, he came up on my tail from out of nowhere and was riding my bumper through corners until i was able to let him pass. I'll see if i have any video of it.

That car definitely is something that he uses, its built for a purpose.... performance.
He is a very good driver!
That car looked bone stock the last time that I saw it.
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It looks stock..... I have no idea if that is the case or not. Either way, its an M5 i think. Those still pack a punch and handle well stock.
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In the right hands, they are very capable cars... Straight from the factory!
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