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Old 04-25-2015, 03:30 PM   #36
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It is flat out ignorant to run 87.
But it's ok just go buy a prius.

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Actually, the other way around, but go argue with Ford, not me....

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It doesn't even say minimum, it says RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!!!!
Funny a bunch of guys getting "owned" by their own owners manual (they didn't read)
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Actually, the other way around, but go argue with Ford, not me....

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It doesn't even say minimum, it says RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!!!!
The car is tested with 93 though
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Actually, the other way around, but go argue with Ford, not me....

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Regular unleaded gasoline with a pump (R+M)/2 octane rating of 87 is
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http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo.../14musom1e.pdf

It doesn't even say minimum, it says RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!!!!
Funny a bunch of guys getting "owned" by their own owners manual (they didn't read)
Look again hotrod. Ford gets the 5.0 hp ratting with 93.

And why would I read the manual. Has nothing to do with my coyote at all. 0 relevance

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I read my manual and I still run 93. Of course ford says put 87 in it. If they said put 93 or 91 only it would limit who might buy it. So can it run on 87? Yeah, but should it run on 87? Well I guess that's up to the owner.
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You don't want a slower car.
Make up your mind, you just told me to buy a Prius.
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Make up your mind, you just told me to buy a Prius.
If you took that directed to you then case closed. But I didn't QUOTE you bud. And you weren't the only one talking about 87 so..............

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This is my first Ford product since I was 22 years old. I did not realize I needed to stop by the Egomaniacs'R'Us store and pick up a new personality along with the purchase. I guess my GM buddies were correct all along, the Mustang guys really are a bunch of jerks. Anyone want to trade a nice '14 Camaro SS for my '14 GT? I don't want to be associated with the Ford gang.
If you don't have a tune you can use 89 it doesn't harm anything. If you ever choose to apply a 93 octane tune will have to stick with 93 though. Over gasoline guys really

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If you don't have a tune you can use 89 it doesn't harm anything. If you ever choose to apply a 93 octane tune will have to stick with 93 though. Over gasoline guys really
Yep, that is a well known fact. And believe it or not, the majority of Mustang owners I know in real life are pretty cool. Just not getting that same vibe here. Too bad. Guess I'll take my 100+ unwelcomed posts and go somewhere else.
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And finally, I have heard about problems with the tanks at the gas stations pumping stale 93 but since everyone runs 87, there exists hardly a chance to get stale 87, not the real reason I don't run 93 but just thought I'd bring it up anyway.
Stale gas? Really ?

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Guess I'll take my 100+ unwelcomed posts and go somewhere else.

You keep saying that. Except you continue to get your panties in a bunch and keep posting. I think maybe you are the one with the problem bud. Taking stuff personally on a forum is very mature.
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Look again hotrod. Ford gets the 5.0 hp ratting with 93.

And why would I read the manual. Has nothing to do with my coyote at all. 0 relevance

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I never argued that 93 would not get more power, if fact I stated it (more or less) right in this thread (granted, I can't feel the whole 8 HP myself). And I agree, didn't read it either, till now.

Just find it funny the abuse dished out for the egregious sin of just running the recommended gas.
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I never argued that 93 would not get more power, if fact I stated it (more or less) right in this thread (granted, I can't feel the whole 8 HP myself). And I agree, didn't read it either, till now.

Just find it funny the abuse dished out for the egregious sin of just running the recommended gas.
It's not for the hp. It's more for the compression ratio 11.1 is high for a 87 octane fuel

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Most of the guys on here are fairly cool even the ones that replied to you. They may be more blunt than you may care for i guess...

Now i did originally started with 93 when i bought mine and then switched to 89 for awhile. And when i did that i added STP fuel enhancer and i could tell the diffrence between running 89 and 93. With 89 alone it didnt accelerate as well as it did without the enhancer or from 93 octane.

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My friends all have high performance cars. And theyball use 93. I as well use 93 on my 5.0, better fuel for a better car. I leave the 87 to a regular prius.

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Well, keep living in the past then. The ECO's run craploads of boost and run just fine on reg (yes, at lower power, but most drivers could care less). Unheard of for any turbo motor to easily run regular not that long ago. If you are not getting knock, there is no damage taking place.

Found a thread from a while back that had 87 and 93 dynoed, it was about 8 RWHP. If 87 was that detrimental, the power loss would be much more substantial, as the car would pull huge amounts of timing and it would show on the dyno.
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If you're 5.0 performs better on 89 octane with a 87 tune over your 93 octane tune you better have the 93 tune re made ASAP! No clue on what tuning company you use but someone needs to send another 93 tune out to you.

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I had a great day, thanks. I have a 3.7 Cyclone and am waiting on MPT tune. I currently am using an SCT "canned" tune. I have tried the 93 & 91 tunes that are on the 3015 SCT X3 tuner I own. I research all things Mustang, and found the 87 octane using mid-grade gas or 89 octane really works well on my Cyclone. That's all, as for running me off this site, good luck, I can "fade" all your crap, I am 56 years old and have wiped the "road" with young punks who think they know everything. Bring it on.
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Well, keep living in the past then. The ECO's run craploads of boost and run just fine on reg (yes, at lower power, but most drivers could care less). Unheard of for any turbo motor to easily run regular not that long ago. If you are not getting knock, there is no damage taking place.



Found a thread from a while back that had 87 and 93 dynoed, it was about 8 RWHP. If 87 was that detrimental, the power loss would be much more substantial, as the car would pull huge amounts of timing and it would show on the dyno.

8 hp is what your lucky to get with a tune on a stock set up. So spend 400+ and void your warranty on a tune OR run 93 and call it a day? Hmm I'll run 93
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The reason for using higher octane,it lets you run more advance in the timing. since the ECM has no way of detecting the octane and can not advance the timing on it's own. There is no advantage to using higher octane with the stock tune. The engine HP is rated with the 89 tune. I use a 91 octane tune, and 91 octane fuel. when I go to the tract I change to the 93 tune and run 93 fuel.
Maybe you should do some research on adative knock strategy. The coyote ecm does detect octane and adapts to it
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8 hp is what your lucky to get with a tune on a stock set up. So spend 400+ and void your warranty on a tune OR run 93 and call it a day? Hmm I'll run 93
Never said anyone should not run 93 if that is what they want, but no one should be telling others they have to.

No reason for me to run it 6 months out of the year, heck my car is barely warmed up by the time I get to work many days (12 miles). That and the low traction from low temps, means I surely don't even need 300 HP those days let the entire all 420. Combine that with propensity to knock much lower in winter than summer. So I run it when I think either the car may need it or I can use it.
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Never said anyone should not run 93 if that is what they want, but no one should be telling others they have to.



No reason for me to run it 6 months out of the year, heck my car is barely warmed up by the time I get to work many days (12 miles). That and the low traction from low temps, means I surely don't even need 300 HP those days let the entire all 420. Combine that with propensity to knock much lower in winter than summer. So I run it when I think either the car may need it or I can use it.

On the same note you are driving so little why not just keep 93 in it? Is it the cost that makes you switch back? I still don't understand the logic. To each his own.
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Here's something for OCD fuel guys to ponder....
When you fill up on 93 at a pump with a single hose that dispenses all 3 fuel types....did the last guy use 87 and how much of that is still in the hose and going in your car when you select 93?
The real aficionados will patiently wait near the pumps and fill their car immediately after someone else uses 93. Then you'll be a fuel Jedi.
(Actually kinda matters if you're filling up a tiny high performance gas tank like on a rice rocket)

*serious question here though, If my claimed HP by Ford was run with 93 (which is understandable) what happens if I found 98 or higher aviation or race gas? Does it increase my Hp?
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Fuel does not stay in the "single" hose.


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So "if" there was a third of a gallon of 87 left in the hose is that enough to drop your 93 octane level Enough to cause concern?
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To some people yes amazingly so. I was in a remote gas station once when a doosh in a BMW 335i demanded his cash prepay $30 back when he realized the pump only had 91 and not the 93 his high performance dooshbaggery vehicle required.
He was willing to chance running dry and make it to the next station 25 miles away. He smelled purty tho.
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That's like 5 cups. You guys are concerned about 5 cups of non 93 octane fuel staying in the line?
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A 1/3 gal 87 mixed in with 13.77 more gallons of 93 hardly seems like a cause for concern. But I will admit it is lame. This would hurt the guy who throws a few gallons at a time in the tank more so than the guy who runs it down to E and fills it up completely everytime. But if your lucky enough to live where 93 is available your already ahead of the game. I know when I lived in California 91 was the highest you could get at a regular station.
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I had a great day, thanks. I have a 3.7 Cyclone and am waiting on MPT tune. I currently am using an SCT "canned" tune. I have tried the 93 & 91 tunes that are on the 3015 SCT X3 tuner I own. I research all things Mustang, and found the 87 octane using mid-grade gas or 89 octane really works well on my Cyclone. That's all, as for running me off this site, good luck, I can "fade" all your crap, I am 56 years old and have wiped the "road" with young punks who think they know everything. Bring it on.
Run you off the site?? What are you talking about? Who is trying to run you off the site, not I! I have a 3.7 as well and based on what you're telling me, those SCT canned tunes clearly suck a$$ then. My 91 hybrid tune is no comparison to the 87 street tune.

Always funny to hear people buying high hp performance cars and then worry about fuel millage and cost of gas. That's like marrying a stripper and being upset she gets naked for other men.

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Everyone just run e85. So much easier. This has became stupid

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Yep, that is a well known fact. And believe it or not, the majority of Mustang owners I know in real life are pretty cool. Just not getting that same vibe here. Too bad. Guess I'll take my 100+ unwelcomed posts and go somewhere else.

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Unfortunately 93 is not available in my state. But I do drive out my way to fill up with 91 octane 100% gas. NO ETHANOL.
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It is flat out ignorant to run 87.
But it's ok just go buy a prius.

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If you don't have a tune you can use 89 it doesn't harm anything. If you ever choose to apply a 93 octane tune will have to stick with 93 though. Over gasoline guys really

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