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Old 05-08-2015, 02:39 PM   #1
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Brembo Brakes w/ GT/CS or V6 PP Rims

Before any hate, this idea was brought on by an AM rep to post this here.

I have a 2014 V6 Performance Pack. As most are aware, the rims are the same as the 2013/14 CS besides color.

Now, I have searched High and Low. I have reached out to AM and other people. Checked reviews/Pics all over AM for everything from Big Brake kits to wheel spacers. I CANNOT figure out if these rims clear the 4 Piston Brembo calipers. Like the ones found on the 2013/14 GT Track Pack cars.

Here is a thread I have in the V6 section: Doing Suspension upgrades in the Fall

Here is the Brake Kit:
Ford Racing Mustang SVT Front Brake Upgrade Kit M-2300-S (05-14 GT, V6) - Free Shipping=

Now the GT/CS and the Brembo rims are the Same Size (255/40/19). But the only thing still unknown is if it clears the spokes.

I measure on my car and I got about 3/4" in. left of clearence between my stock caliper and spoke. Not sure if this is enough. I CANNOT find specific measurements for these exact brakes. There is a template out on the interwebs, but it does not specify if it is for the 6 piston or the 4 piston calipers. I need the 4 piston ones.

Any and ALL help is appreciated as I have been racking my brain with this.

If I have to buy wheel spacers, I am fine with this. I will then just need to know which spacers to get.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:44 PM   #2
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Your best bet would be to find a used set of 4 piston brembos, they pop up quite often on SVTP. They will clear your PP rims without a problem, however brembo pads are dusty as fawk. Might look into investing into a new pair.
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Old 05-08-2015, 02:46 PM   #3
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O_O so you can officially confirm that they clear the spokes?! If so, you have saved me an extreme amount of grief D:
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:17 PM   #4
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Here is a pic for reference to compare the two. Again, both are 255/40/19
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Lol NP man. I used to have a 14' PP 3.7 as well, i dont think the spokes are too thick (towards inside to rub the calipers). Only thing with brembos is bigger rotors, for which you 18" minimum wheels.

Are you getting brembos just for looks or for actual stopping power? If latter, you can easily achieve that with a set of hawk hps 5.0 pads, ss lines, aftermarket rotors and dot 4 fluid. And of course grippy tires lol I hated my stock pp brakes!
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:37 PM   #6
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Both. Because I will have the money in the fall to drop on them and I really like the look they give. any extra stopping ability is just an extra bonus.
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Ah makes sense. Yeah keep an eye on mustang forums (mostly svtp, better yet make a new thread over there) and Shelby store on eBay. You might even get lucky with 6 piston brembos at a decent price
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Old 05-08-2015, 03:50 PM   #8
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Now those for sure I would have to get bigger wheels. :O I just want to try and stay with the 4 piston ones. Trying to slide by with my current wheels
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Haha I'm pretty sure you can fit 6 pistons brembos on a 19" wheel :p not to mention they've stopping power of a bad mofo lol
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Haha I'm pretty sure you can fit 6 pistons brembos on a 19" wheel :p not to mention they've stopping power of a bad mofo lol
The 2015 have 6 pistons don't they? And they only require 19's to clear.
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Do you know anyone who has put Brembos on a 2014 GT/CS or V6 PP car? I searched about 1000 pictures of mustang wheels for both and could not find one with a combination of the two.

I am a see it to believe it person and if I could get some numbers or pics, it would stop my worrying.
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The 2015 have 6 pistons don't they? And they only require 19's to clear.

Yea but it is the spokes that I am worried about. Even AM could not confirm/Deny if this would be an issue. Probably because they dont sell 13/14 GT/CS or V6 PP wheels.
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The other idea, is if someone can measure their Brembo caliper, starting from the rotor surface going out towards the wheel spokes (not including free space between the caliper and spoke). This will at least give me an idea.
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It's the offset that matters. And from everything I have heard (I have a brembo car) no other factory wheels fit unless they specifically came for a brembo car or track pack car. There are some aftermarket 18's that fit, so it actually doesn't require 19's. It's the offset

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My stock caliper and spokes have about 3/4 inch of free space. Do you think a 1 inch spacer hub with studs would work?

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The C/S wheels will not clear Brembo brakes.
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My stock caliper and spokes have about 3/4 inch of free space. Do you think a 1 inch spacer hub with studs would work?

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I guess but why not just get different wheels at that point? Wheel spacers are not recommend by many.
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Well, i will be spending just over 1k on brakes, 1k on suspension, headers, and a few small things. I can swing spacers, but not another $700-$1000 for wheels.

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Old 05-09-2015, 07:39 AM   #19
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You need at least 1/2" spacer to clear the offset and longer wheel studs from ARP. Did this with mine. I put 6 pistons that I found at ebay for less than $1k. PP wheel with Brembo.

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You need at least 1/2" spacer to clear the offset and longer wheel studs from ARP. Did this with mine. I put 6 pistons that I found at ebay for less than $1k. PP wheel with Brembo.

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That is EXACTLY what I needed. Even a pic for proof. Thank you!!!

Which exact spacer did you get? And is it one with its own studs?

Last question. After adding the spacer, how much clearence do you have left between the caliper and spoke?
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It was just a sandwitch spacer and 3" wheel stud (2.5" will do for 1/2" spacer). Doing this, you only have about 1/4" clearance between wheels and caliper. If you do 1", the one with adaptor, your tire may stick out a bit from wheel well. I still have the spacer, the 3" studs and billet open lug nuts. If you are interested, pm me.
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Thank you for all of the information. PM sent.
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I have a 2012 GT with Brembo brakes.
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Those are the brembo rims. Those are meant to clear the brembo brakes. The gt/cs and v6 performance package rims aren't specified to clear them so that is what I was curious about.

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Well what if you took one of your wheels and just tried it on a Pony with the set that you are wanting to use.


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Well what if you took one of your wheels and just tried it on a Pony with the set that you are wanting to use.


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Yea, plus - i dont know anyone in Cedar Park, TX with a stang. Lol. I see stangs, but i dont want to walk up randomly and make it awkward.

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Here it is kevin, can't attach pic to pm. I can't find the open head nuts.

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Thank you. Do you only have 2? I'd want to get to more so the front tires weren't out farther then the back.

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Kevin remind me tomorrow and I will look in my garage out back. I think I have 4 spacers. I do not have the lugs. You are more than welcome to have them. If you want them.
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It's the offset that matters. And from everything I have heard (I have a brembo car) no other factory wheels fit unless they specifically came for a brembo car or track pack car. There are some aftermarket 18's that fit, so it actually doesn't require 19's. It's the offset

Look how close the caliper is to the back of the wheel spokes
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This! The only stock wheels that clear them are the "Brembo wheels" and even those only have about 1/16th of an inch clearance!!

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Not to get off track here, but my 2014 has the AMR 19" rims. I have a bead on a set of 6 piston brembos for cheap off a gt500. It will come with rotors, calipers, hoses, and dust shield. Other than needing the GT bracket, what else will I need and will it clear the AMR 19's? Also, in my quest for info someone stated that on v6 cars you could possibly get ABS issues...is this true?

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Well the ABS issue comes with people not hooking stuff back up correctly. LOL!

As far as the clearence, your rims need to be spaced at least 9". Most stock rims from Ford are 8-8.5. Mine from the V6 PP are 8.5. The Brembo rims are 9". So I need 1/2" spacers to be ok. You could probably measure it yourself or ask the vendor you got the rims from what it is. (Not talking about the stats such as 255/40/19, this is different. Just because it is 19", the spokes still need to clear the caliper.)
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Where do I measure from?
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Where do I measure from?
Technically, there is no measurement to take that will confirm.

The width as he was referring to: 8, 8.5 or 9" helps having wider tires, as they're more likely to clear the brakes. Knowing the offset helps as you want the tires sticking out (not tucked) for more room. But what matters most is the distance from the rotor to the inside spokes of the wheels.

There are templates that you can print out and hold in place to test fit. THAT IS THE ONLY SURE FIRE way to test with out actually having wheels & calipers on vehicle.

I've seen the one for the 15" Big Brembo brakes before, I believe on Brembo's website somewhere, but here are some samples: Ford
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