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Old 07-26-2015, 04:15 PM   #1
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Went to the track, crappy day.

Went to CA Speedway waited in line and baked In the sun for over 2 hours then finally got 1 run in. The run was so slow I was embarrassed so went home. 12.821 @ 112 60ft-2.066 on slicks. My original plan was to finally do the Bama vs Mike roush tunes but this track was Packed. Bunch of stupid @ss Harleys/bikes that were able to cut the line over and over. All those guys do is Rev there bikes while playing there built in stereos. On a positive note I was able to meet a guy who gets on this forum and he had some good advice for my future mods. He told me he put 331 gears then 373 gears in his coyote and gained 2 tenths and 1 or 2 mph with the 373s. Hope he gets on here soon and chimes in.
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I wish that my car would run a 12.8 on a hot day... Or any day, for that matter!


So what kind of times were the Harleys running?
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I wish that my car would run a 12.8 on a hot day... Or any day, for that matter!


So what kind of times were the Harleys running?
Didn't see any other runs just because I was in line waiting and wait and waiting. At CA speedway the line is kind of behind the grand stands so you can only hear the cars. I didn't even glance at any of the Harleys because they annoy me. They rev there stupid bikes over and over and over, I was ready to ask them if there bikes were able to idle on there own and if so then why are you reving? Trying to have a conversation with someone standing 1 foot away and here comes the attention whore rev rev rev , revrev, rev rev.
I ran a 12.4 or 12.5 last time I went and it was sprinkling out
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I averaged about 13.9-14 seconds at the SA Raceway in TX yesterday. Lol. The heat is a killer.
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On a positive note I was able to meet a guy who gets on this forum and he had some good advice for my future mods. He told me he put 331 gears then 373 gears in his coyote and gained 2 tenths and 1 or 2 mph with the 373s. Hope he gets on here soon and chimes in.
If that's the same person I know he doesn't have any actual proof.
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Did this person you meet have an auto or m6? If auto and he did 3.73 gears, he's definitely needs to do some research.

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He has a auto, he said he also just did a CJ manifold and e85.

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Said he follows this forum but doesn't have a profile. Might have said he belongs to s197 forum or something. Black dude. Really nice guy and said he uses Mike rough also.

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Anything above 3.31 on auto is a no go. Period. Even 3.31 is pushing it a little. Our 6r80s have aggressive gearing from factory, all it needs is a torque converter and that's all

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The only odd area where 3.73 'might' actually help him is if he's revving his car to the moon. Like 8500 rpms and such. But then he will be losing out on top end speed with 3.73s

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In the 12's is embarrassing?? That's fast!
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That not fast for a tuned mustang on slicks. Like I said my very first run months ago in the rain was 12.4.

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You're running the wrong tire as well so that's not helping. You should be running a drag radial, not a slick.
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You're running the wrong tire as well so that's not helping. You should be running a drag radial, not a slick.

What? Why? Slicks will get him more traction and allow him launch at a higher rpm than a drag radial (albeit not much on an n/a car). Aside from being DOT legal and the ability to drive to and from the track, there is no reason to run DR's over full slicks.


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What? Why? Slicks will get him more traction and allow him launch at a higher rpm than a drag radial (albeit not much on an n/a car). Aside from being DOT legal and the ability to drive to and from the track, there is no reason to run DR's over full slicks.
Because he has an auto he needs to run a drag radial not a slick. And at his power level a slick is overkill. Plus a drag radial will be faster going down the track. So yes in his circumstance there are a variety of reasons why he needs to run a drag radial.

Launching at a high rpm is pointless on the stock converter.
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Went to the track, crappy day.

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Because he has an auto he needs to run a drag radial not a slick. And at his power level a slick is overkill. Plus a drag radial will be faster going down the track. So yes in his circumstance there are a variety of reasons why he needs to run a drag radial.

Launching at a high rpm is pointless on the stock converter.

Well I did miss the auto part, so the launch rpm is a moot point. But you still haven't told me why a DR is better for him. And "because it runs faster" means nothing, especially since it's not true.

Overkill, yea, maybe, but I agreed to that already in my previous post. But there is no reason to convince him to spend more money on tires that are perfectly fine for him and do not hinder his track times whatsoever.

He is just fine with slicks.

DR's were invented for people that want to be able to run a sticky tire on street and strip, not because there is something wrong with drag racing on slicks.


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Sounds like you have little to no experience in drag racing but would just rather argue over something that you have no idea about. Ever wonder why some guys seem to just run fast times with limited mods while others flounder around?

Remind me again how fast you've been?
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Although I have never run a drag radial.............only slicks/wrinkle walls.
I have been around drag strips long before the street radials were invented and I can say that drag radials are not worth much when it comes to poorly prepared strips because the sidewalls are too stiff. I've seen some "want to be's" break axles and chunk driveshafts because they couldn't get traction which cause a fair amount of wheel hop...........which can be destructive. A soft slick will hook a lot better on a poorly prepared strips and because of the 2ply sidewall they are much easier on the drivetrain. I also believe the slick will give you a better 60' time than a drag radial.
As for a low HP/TQ car I'm not sure it really makes much of a difference which tire they use as long as the suspension is well setup...............and with a stock converter it's a mute point.
I think both of you have valid points.....................
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Right now the fastest cars auto or manual are running the M/T ET Street Radial Pro in the 275's. Coincidence? I think not.
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Right now the fastest cars auto or manual are running the M/T ET Street Radial Pro in the 275's. Coincidence? I think not.
No argument.....................you can set up a drag car to run almost anything and tires and suspension make a huge difference.
Ran my Maverick with 10.5" slicks in the low 10.0s, put 13" wide and and changed nothing and went low 9.80s.
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I'm on a drag radial. Sorry I said slick, my bad. I always say slicks. I assume everybody's using the mobile version of Mustang evo so you don't see my signature I believe in my signature it says I have Mickey Thompson drag radials. In fact they were the ones you recommended to me grabber.

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Why a drag radial? Don't you know a slick is better with the auto? At least according to the ones that go to the track........to spectate.........
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I'm curious about all the talk on 3:55 gears and auto trans.. Looking on another forum where they have a fast list in different catagories the fastest stock 2015 GT's are auto with 3:55 in both ET and top MPH.. So what's up with that? In the mod classes they are holding their own too. Just curious I know on my last car the auto trans was low but gear change for 3:23 to 3:45 helped ET. Maybe I'm missing something?
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This is the 2011-2014 section but it still applies. But no one here brought up 3.55's. Very simple. Anything over a 3.31 gear will cause a shift into 4th slowing you down. Why? Because instead of crossing the traps above 7000 rpm at the peak of your power band a shift into 4th will cause you to drop out of your power band. Plus it's possible to have to much gear and getting the car to hook.
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Sounds like you have little to no experience in drag racing but would just rather argue over something that you have no idea about. Ever wonder why some guys seem to just run fast times with limited mods while others flounder around?

Remind me again how fast you've been?

Haha you still haven't given any reason whatsoever as to why DR's are superior to slicks for his (or any) application. This is pretty typical of the forum bullies here on mustang evolution. Which is a large part of the reason I stopped coming on this site.

There are so many know it alls that give zero evidence, proof, or reasoning as to why they're correct... They just are correct and you're supposed to believe them or you're stupid.

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Grabber... you just quoted yourself.
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Grabber... you just quoted yourself.
Which Grabber are you referring to?

There are THREE of them in this thread!

It's very confusing...
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Too many grabbers.


Pick your poison.
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Which Grabber are you referring to?

There are THREE of them in this thread!

It's very confusing...
Ack. Way too confusing. Only difference between the 2 I thought were the same was a space. This makes the brain hurt.

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You said it. Too many!!!
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For a long time, when I was lurking around in this forum, I always thought to myself "That GrabberBlue5.0 really seems to know his stuff when it comes to these Coyote cars"... It turns out, that there are TWO of them, and I was probably reading BOTH of their posts. Lol.
The knowledge of the Grabber has now been diluted.
I now think that Grabber is only half as smart as I previously thought.
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Haha, either half as smart or twice as stupid lol


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Went to the track, crappy day.

I had a similar experience. I saw voltwings post and then someone named boltwings post. Bolt had a mirrored avatar of volts. I was like wait what?! Dear God there's two of them.


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Funny thing is I don't even own a grabber blue 5.0 anymore, I don't think the other guy does either (at least judging from his avatar).

Wouldn't it be crazy if you saw a forum member having an argument with himself like that?


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Funny thing is I don't even own a grabber blue 5.0 anymore, I don't think the other guy does either (at least judging from his avatar).

Wouldn't it be crazy if you saw a forum member having an argument with himself like that?


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Im the only Grabber with a Grabber. The other 2 don't have Grabbers anymore lorl. About the tires, I've read and have herd from a few guys at the track that a Slick is better for a manual car due to the shock it absorbs from the soft side wall. Also you cant really drive a slick on the street. A Drag radial is more for the auto guys because we don't put that type of shock to the rear tires and drivetrain. Makes sense to me so I went with a radial.
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