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Old 07-30-2015, 05:55 AM   #1
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Manual car tune

Just curious how much of a difference a tune would make on a manual car. Is it more noticeable for the auto guys.


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I just had my manual car tuned a couple of weeks ago. I couldn't believe the difference it has made. As MANY others before me have said - if you're on the fence about getting a tune, DO IT! Worth every penny!
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I did a catless h pipe, catback and tune. I don't think it changed the low end, but it does pull harder in the midrange and especially up top. Just driving around town, I barely notice any difference. I don't think it is as drastic as some claim it to be.


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I did a catless h pipe, catback and tune. I don't think it changed the low end, but it does pull harder in the midrange and especially up top. Just driving around town, I barely notice any difference. I don't think it is as drastic as some claim it to be.
Then I don't think you got a very good tune. Who's tune did you go with?
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One of the top two tuners on here. My datalogs look good, so I know it's running good. The car drives smooth and it is powerful. I just think some people think it transforms the car, and I don't think it is that big of a change.

I'm in the process of modding my 2015 Focus ST and will be getting a tune on Sunday. I'm expecting much greater gains from this process than what I got with the Mustang.


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One of the top two tuners on here. My datalogs look good, so I know it's running good. The car drives smooth and it is powerful. I just think some people think it transforms the car, and I don't think it is that big of a change.

I'm in the process of modding my 2015 Focus ST and will be getting a tune on Sunday. I'm expecting much greater gains from this process than what I got with the Mustang.


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Not knowing what you have done to your ST suspension wise, and I can say with experience that I was very much surprised by their performance after some suspension work and some engine mod's including a tune................this one was really quick and the handling was comparable if not better than my mod'd Mustang.......................
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No suspension work yet. But it will have an aftermarket intercooler, catless downpipe and upgraded motor mounts with a Panda Motorworks tune. It's amazing how much torque the little ST can make.

Now that I feel like I hijacked this thread...sorry. Would I feel more of a difference if I ran the race tune instead of the street tune? Maybe that will make the difference.


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Would I feel more of a difference if I ran the race tune instead of the street tune? Maybe that will make the difference.
You still haven't answered the question I asked about which tuner. But I'm guessing Bama?
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Just to get this thread back on track.................last year I was looking for a 6spd GT and drove maybe a dozen cars before getting mine. When I bought it the Odometer showed 2700 miles and the first test drive I took was.........WOW!.......
it was the fasted GT I had driven and I was convinced this was the one to buy. When we got back to dealership I opened the hood and saw the CAI.....and thought to myself............that has to be the reason as all the rest only had the OE CAI.
When I got the car home I found the SCT tuner in the trunk...............I plugged it in and sure enough it had the 91 tune in it.
For me, the difference over the previous stock GT's I driven was at least 20/25hp more..............seat of the pants thing and since I've been drag racing for some 35+ years my seat is a well tuned instrument......................and after returning the car back to stock tune...............no comparison......No, when I took the CAI off it did have the MVT adapter in it............with or without the tune the MVT doesn't seem to do much. MVT stands for Modular Venturi Tube.
When I took it out the motor ran a little smoother but not much difference hn HP/TQ gain that I can feel.
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I used AED.


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The auto tune from the factory is so sad, it makes the gap larger and more improvement when tuned.

That said, a 91 octane Ford Racing tune took my fully loaded Brembo car into the 11s....
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Make sure you have premium in the tank and run the race tune. Then see what you think.
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Old 07-30-2015, 12:47 PM   #13
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When I opened my tunes for the first time I noticed three tunes, one for 87, one for 91, and one for 93. Since the car was on the 91 tune and I can't get 93 I stuck with the 91 tune...if you can get 93 octane go for the race tune......if not....stick with the octane/tune you can get.
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I always use Shell 93. I haven't ran the race tune yet. I will try it.




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Did Shaun ever comment on your gas quality? He has noted in the past he is not a fan of Shell gas.
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He did mention fuel quality at the beginning of the datalogging process. I was getting some false knock. I refueled from a different Shell station and he was willing to proceed. It seems that bad gas is everywhere.

Grabber, what has do you use, if you don't mind me asking?

I know this is all off topic of the original OP's post, but it's probably relevant information for anyone who wants to start the tuning process.


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I've run Sunoco with some success but you are right gas quality is not so great no matter where you are in the country.
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Old 07-30-2015, 05:23 PM   #18
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The good ole Midwest, where they even put ethanol in our milk.


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Old 07-30-2015, 05:32 PM   #19
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Gas quality Is perfectly fine in Texas

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I'm also working with Shaun and had been using Chevron...............I've been using Chevron for decades without any issues.
As Shaun told me I switched to Costco...........they are one of only a handful using 92 here in Oregon............after running a tank through the car feels and sounds much better.........starting on the fine tuning with Shaun. I also bought 10 gallons of 100 octane unleaded for future use.
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Sooo. If I've been running a 93 bama tune and using shell 93 gas, I'm not gettin what I should out of the car? shell is the only gas I've put in the car since I had her. If I need to change up, who's best to go with that isn't Costco? Since there aren't that many of those down here.


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Here we go with this dumb ****. Just bc one person said shell isn't good.

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Just asking to see if I've been doing something wrong since I pretty much stick to shell. But if the answer(s) to my gas question is more a matter of opinion or experience than fact, I'll just stick to shell like I have been lol. Don't wanna start a war like the V6 vs. GT threads go (that I enjoy reading btw)


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I use shell it's the best gas you can get down south. The only way to tell is to do logs using different stations from your area.

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I guess that's what I'll stick to then. It seems like that's the only trustable gas down here in NOLA as well.


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I prefer she'll gas as well


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I was just told.......for everyone in the Portland, OR vicinity....... that there is a gas station selling 91 that is ethanol free...........next time I'm up in Portland I'll see if it's true......................heard this from a couple of ole hot rodders.
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Soooo..... Are manual tunes with it?
I have a '14 GT and wondering if it is a waste of money to put a tune on a stick.
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I think it's a no brainier. If you plan on doing any mod it needs to be tuned to it.


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Manual car tune

I have never had the car on a dyno so I can only tell you that it feels like there is more power there. I don't race the car so for me the best thing about the tune is the increased throttle response and the seat of the pants feeling of more HP and torque.


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Soooo..... Are manual tunes with it?
I have a '14 GT and wondering if it is a waste of money to put a tune on a stick.
Although I'm Ole School...............a tune in a stick is one of the first things I'd do.
I don't want to sound negative and although I firmly believe the motor is more than up to the task of handling a tune..............If you are making payments every month and have a warranty you need to realize that if for some reason you grenade the motor.................I doubt Ford is going to warranty the car with a tune in it........................with that said as long you don't too wild the motor is pretty tuff.....and it does make a difference where you get the tune.
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I think it's a no brainier. If you plan on doing any mod it needs to be tuned to it.


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For now I don't plan on doing any mods other than the exhaust which is already done. I was thinking about tunning it once the warranty is up. Only other things I want are single piece drive shat and mgw race spec.


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For now I don't plan on doing any miss other than the exhaust which is already done. I was thinking about running it once the warranty is up. Only other things I want are single piece drive shat and mgw race spec.


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You will be waiting until the power train warranty is up. 5 years or 60k miles I think.
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Ya I have 4 more years to go. I'll never meet the mileage as its been over a year and I only have 7000 on it.


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Ya I have 4 more years to go. I'll never meet the mileage as its been over a year and I only have 7000 on it.


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I had the same problem. 4 years and only 24k miles. I finally gave in and loaded the tune (I had actually bought the tuner a year before that and then had second thoughts about loading it after I got it).
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