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Old 08-01-2015, 12:35 PM   #1
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Top down oil change using pump extractor

Hi, what are your thoughts on pumping oil from the top of the engine using vacuum pump pressure? Of course it probably will leave residual oil on the bottom of the oil pan but it's more convenient, easier, quicker, less messier, less cleanup, etc. And if I want to drain the residual off the bottom of the pan that would just require an empty 1 quart oil bottle and slightly loosen oil pan bolt. I suppose I would still require jackstands/ramps to change oil filter ('13 mustang gt to remove the bottom shield).

Also, can I pump out fluid on a manual transmission from the top down and fill her back up?
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Yes. You can pump the oil out of the engine, transmission, even the differential!
That is how it is done in many marine applications... Because you can't cut a hole in the bottom of a boat! Lol.

I don't see any benefit to doing it that way in a car though. As you said, you will need to access the filters for servicing, regardless.
And if pumping the oil out from the top was a more efficient way to change fluids, all of the "quicky" oil change shops would be doing it that way.
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First, where you planning on hooking this pump to on the engine that's going to get at the oil without negatively pressuring the crankcase to two bar? There is no place that allows you direct access for a feed line into the sump, other than sliding a really small tube down the dipstick hole and pumping for a year to draw 8 quarts out. Plus, you won't empty the oil filter this way so, you are still looking at a mess and the removal of the lower covers if you want to change that.

Second, draining the fluid out of the trans and refilling is one bottom bolt, 5 minutes drain and fill from a top bolt. Takes 20 minutes tops, including the drain time.

You're actually making something simple complicated there.
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I must ask, why? what's wrong with the conventional method of draining the oil?

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The oil filter must be changed anyway and there's no way to do that without being on ramps, sliding underneath and doing it. What's so hard about draining the oil the right way and wearing one rubber glove? Ramps are like fifty bucks? The filter is only like two feet away from the drain bolt.
Unless you're not changing your oil filter? If that's the case, your easier softer way is going to bite you..or the unfortunate future owner.
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Removing the oil filter is the messy part for sure. I use the gallon size zip lock storage bag around the oil filter trick. Keeps most of the nasty oil from running down my arm to into my arm pit.
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I just go to my Ford Dealer

I ask for and get the same guy all the time. He checks everything and fills it up with Motorcraft full synthetic and a Motorcraft filter.
Tires are checked and nitrogen put in if needed. Rotated every 5,000 miles.
I would like to still do this myself but health won't let me.
I found I really don't miss doing it and it does cost more then buying at Walmart, and doing it my self. I get a very good really better service and full inspection of my car then when I was doing it.
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I made some 3-step ramps out of some scrap 2X6 boards. Works great for changing oil.
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Ditto for Ford dealer. I have been building and racing cars and bikes for over thirty years so, I can handle anything but, Ford cleans up the mess, drives me to and from or gives me a courtesy car and charges competitive rates.

That and I have 50 k on the car and no igniter tick on Ford 5W20. I'm happy with that. Now there is a Vortech on there, we'll have to be really assertive on the "no test drives" rule, hehe.
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+1 on why....my hint is one of the 1/2 gallon oval ice cream containers lined with plastic bag sitting on top of K member to capture oil from filter.


and you get ice cream!
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here are my 2 oil change hars:

I have the Laguna Seca trans scoop so, the oil dribbles on the lip of that during the change, if you don't take 5 minutes and pull it.

On my Vortech, Vortech makes the drain line about an inch too short and space is tight so it usually fills the k member with blower lube. It's amazing how many drips 4 oz of oil can cause.
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Removing the oil filter is the messy part for sure. I use the gallon size zip lock storage bag around the oil filter trick. Keeps most of the nasty oil from running down my arm to into my arm pit.
Gallon size zip lock bag around the oil filter works great
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