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Old 08-15-2015, 07:52 AM   #1
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Intake

Hey guys. I have a 2013 GT. I am really interested in purchasing in an intake. Was just wondering what kind of intakes some of you guys have and wanted to get some of your thoughts on them. I saw there is this new one made by Cervini that you can get color matched which I thought was nice. I'm guessing no one really has that one yet though. Other ones I am interested in are the K&N 63, BBK blackout and the Airaid. I am not looking to tune it just yet so right now I am looking for ones that do not require a tune. Thanks guys and it would be great to hear back from some of you.
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I'm sure more people will chime in also......the stock CAI you now have will perform better than one you could buy. The aftermarket CAI's look nice but do nothing for HP/TQ. What will wake up the Coyote is a tune.
Although I have a CAI on my car the only reason it's there is because that is the way I bought the car when it had 2700 miles....it also had a tune.
Put the money you would have spent on the CAI and buy a tune..don't waste your money....IMHO
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Well in the near future I planned on tuning it so I figured intake first then tune. But your saying i should tune it first then get an intake?


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What I'm saying is that your stock CAI is just as good as an aftermarket CAI and there is no need to buy one..............get a tune and keep the $300 that it would cost for the aftermarket CAI and put it towards some mod's for your car.
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I would invest in some cat deletes and exhaust with the tune instead of the intake. You will get more power from the cat deletes but you need a tune to run.
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Tune first...absolutely. I have the stock CAI in front of a blower so, there is NFW it's a bottleneck N/A.

You can see what I did tune only in my sig.
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I just recently switched to a C&L intake with tune. I am very happy with how it performs. I had a tune before the intake, and had the tune redone with the changes for the bigger intake. Definitely pulls harder in the lower rpm range, and added a real nice tone to the motor.
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I don't want to re-ignite this ages-old debate because it really is a zero-sum game with no one changing their view.

However, engines are engines and they do work in certain, well-established ways. just because the tune changed the way the car feels does not mean the intake is responsible for that. My Procal 2 tune had the sharpest throttle response out there, through the airbox. That's generally just playing around with the timing curve. Too many variables can be altered with a tune revision to focus on the intake being the sole cause for any improvement, especially when the improvement is so subjective. A tune intake means a change in the MAF transfer values for an enlarged tube. It doesn't mean the engine "needs more air".

Bottom line is the stock intake has been tested on a flow bench to flow to a max of about 775 cfm. The stock engine, on its best day, needs 550 cfm. Thus, enlarging the airflow capacity of the intake yields nothing but a cool sound, which people often mistake for increased performance.

I understand wanting the car to feel good. That's super-important tot me as well. I want to drive a car that feels like it has X horsepower not like the stock tune, which made the car feel like the throttle was sitting in a bowl of marshmallow creme unless you wailed on it.
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I just recently switched to a C&L intake with tune. I am very happy with how it performs. I had a tune before the intake, and had the tune redone with the changes for the bigger intake. Definitely pulls harder in the lower rpm range, and added a real nice tone to the motor.
I'll make sure I run right out and buy one based on this experience.
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Damn you guys are just so awesome...go be a dick elsewhere thanks
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I'll make sure I run right out and buy one based on this experience.

Grabber... Quick question. If you're a dick and you're a dick to a jerk off where does that leave you?

Quit being a dick unless you wanna get wanked lol

And dude... my aftermarket CAI kicks in like a freight train so I dunno what you're talking about.

It's like adding nitro. It's like I chopped the lips off Supergirl, stuck it on my car, and now my engine
sucks air like it was a flying god-like invincible $2 prostitute.


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And dude... my aftermarket CAI kicks in like a freight train so I dunno what you're talking about.
Remind me again how fast that aftermarket CAI has gotten you?
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Since you guys have degrees in automotive engineering what are your thought on bigger throttle bodies? Are they a waste as well? Serious question
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Remind me again how fast that aftermarket CAI has gotten you?

Ummmm none whatsoever faster. But it sounds faster... 😒


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Since you guys have degrees in automotive engineering what are your thought on bigger throttle bodies? Are they a waste as well? Serious question
Waste of money.
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The "air intake turbo" thing works really good.........

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The "air intake turbo" thing works really good.........

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You mean this?

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You mean this?

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That be the one

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That be the one

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It's bogus don't ever ever EVER get that.

But this on the other hand will easily add 75-100hp

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It's bogus don't ever ever EVER get that.

But this on the other hand will easily add 75-100hp

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004IV...W1L&ref=plSrch


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Dam been fooled this whole time.

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The "air intake turbo" thing works really good.........
LOL,, that is awesome. I just ordered one . been wanting to ask about this here for weeks.
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What about the air-raid modular tube? serious question.


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What about the air-raid modular tube? serious question.


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Not sure.

But the stock one is 100% fine for 98% of people.

We did a few test awhile back after my direct port and the stock one choked out up top.

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I don't want to re-ignite this ages-old debate because it really is a zero-sum game with no one changing their view.

However, engines are engines and they do work in certain, well-established ways. just because the tune changed the way the car feels does not mean the intake is responsible for that. My Procal 2 tune had the sharpest throttle response out there, through the airbox. That's generally just playing around with the timing curve. Too many variables can be altered with a tune revision to focus on the intake being the sole cause for any improvement, especially when the improvement is so subjective. A tune intake means a change in the MAF transfer values for an enlarged tube. It doesn't mean the engine "needs more air".
don't get me wrong. I'm not disputing the adequacy of the stock filter

Bottom line is the stock intake has been tested on a flow bench to flow to a max of about 775 cfm. The stock engine, on its best day, needs 550 cfm. Thus, enlarging the airflow capacity of the intake yields nothing but a cool sound, which people often mistake for increased performance.

I understand wanting the car to feel good. That's super-important tot me as well. I want to drive a car that feels like it has X horsepower not like the stock tune, which made the car feel like the throttle was sitting in a bowl of marshmallow creme unless you wailed on it.
I don't think a reference to a max flow of about 775 cfm means very much without the pressure drop value that is allowed at that capacity.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not disputing the adequacy of the stock filter, just that you can't use that comparison, in and by itself.
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To me (I'm a newb) cold air kits will only benefit if you have a ram air hood that channels/tunnels it directly to the filter along with a larger Throttle body. Not really worth it if your in stop n go traffic or red lights/stop signs or even dusty conditions.
I will get a CAI when I get a new hood....
Am I on the right track so far? If not I guess I'll have to order that Genssi Turbo Sound Maker Tip Large 30mm from Amazon..... lol
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To me (I'm a newb) cold air kits will only benefit if you have a ram air hood that channels/tunnels it directly to the filter along with a larger Throttle body. Not really worth it if your in stop n go traffic or red lights/stop signs or even dusty conditions.
I will get a CAI when I get a new hood....
Am I on the right track so far? If not I guess I'll have to order that Genssi Turbo Sound Maker Tip Large 30mm from Amazon..... lol

Your stock intake is a CAI. It's more than adequate for everything up to changing your intake manifold to a Boss or CJ manifold or forced induction.

It channels outside air and you don't need a ram air hood


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To me (I'm a newb) cold air kits will only benefit if you have a ram air hood that channels/tunnels it directly to the filter along with a larger Throttle body. Not really worth it if your in stop n go traffic or red lights/stop signs or even dusty conditions.
I will get a CAI when I get a new hood....
Am I on the right track so far? If not I guess I'll have to order that Genssi Turbo Sound Maker Tip Large 30mm from Amazon..... lol

Your stock intake is a CAI. It's more than adequate for everything up to changing your intake manifold to a Boss or CJ manifold or forced induction.

It channels outside air and you don't need a ram air hood


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