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Old 08-22-2015, 04:50 AM   #1
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A few noob questions about tires and power

Hi Guys!
I am kinda new in this power adding game and i would love to get some details about relevant tires.
These days i am running NITTO NT555 255/35/R20 with 20x9 wheel and i pretty love time.
Its important to mention that my car is ONLY for the street and i don't do tracks or so.
Next week and i am gonna install VMP stage 2 on the car (GT 2014 Auto) and i might wanna have better grip on the rear tires.

What tires size should do it?
What drag radial use for - only track or can be for the street too?
Basically, some details about better traction will be great!

Thank you so much!
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Buy better summer tires. Assuming stock power the tire width is enough with a high end street tire /semi slick. The rest of the problem is the live rear axle. Better dampers and new control arms will help wheel hop and wheel tramp.

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Buy better summer tires. Assuming stock power the tire width is enough with a high end street tire /semi slick. The rest of the problem is the live rear axle. Better dampers and new control arms will help wheel hop and wheel tramp.

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What rear size should i get if i dont wanna replace my wheels (20x9) ?
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Keep in mind that only 4 small patches of rubber keep your car connected with the road, so, better grip usually means the following:

1) Low cost: Better tires (which you already have).
2) Medium cost: Wider tires, which mostly requires wider wheels.
3) High cost: Suspension upgrade.
4) Highest cost: All of the above, but worth every penny!

I have 19x9 front wheels and 19x11 rears. This allows for a very wide rear tire and good grip. But with a staggered setup you'll lose the ability to rotate your tires. It's the price you pay for increased grip/performance.

I've installed STEEDA Sport Springs and Heavy Duty Stut Mounts. KONI STR.T Shocks & Struts. BMR Rod/Poly adjustable Lower Control Arms, BMR Rod/Poly adjustable Panhard Rod and BMR Lower Control Arms Relocation Brackets.

I have no more "mushiness" from rubber bushings, less body roll, a firmer ride, more controlled corner handling, no wheel hop and an overall confident and predictable suspension behavior.

NVH? Of course, a little V and H, as expected with rod/heim joints, but nowhere near unbearable.

Ford really did a great job designing the stock suspension considering it's for good roads, bad roads, snow, ice, sleet, rain and good/bad drivers. But, for a small (relative) investment you could make it excellent.

Another option could be keeping your current wheels/tires and installing a heavier rear sway bar.

And no, I'm not a suspension specialist.

Hope my input helps with your decision.
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Keep in mind that only 4 small patches of rubber keep your car connected with the road, so, better grip usually means the following:

1) Low cost: Better tires (which you already have).
2) Medium cost: Wider tires, which mostly requires wider wheels.
3) High cost: Suspension upgrade.
4) Highest cost: All of the above, but worth every penny!

I have 19x9 front wheels and 19x11 rears. This allows for a very wide rear tire and good grip. But with a staggered setup you'll lose the ability to rotate your tires. It's the price you pay for increased grip/performance.

I've installed STEEDA Sport Springs and Heavy Duty Stut Mounts. KONI STR.T Shocks & Struts. BMR Rod/Poly adjustable Lower Control Arms, BMR Rod/Poly adjustable Panhard Rod and BMR Lower Control Arms Relocation Brackets.

I have no more "mushiness" from rubber bushings, less body roll, a firmer ride, more controlled corner handling, no wheel hop and an overall confident and predictable suspension behavior.

NVH? Of course, a little V and H, as expected with rod/heim joints, but nowhere near unbearable.

Ford really did a great job designing the stock suspension considering it's for good roads, bad roads, snow, ice, sleet, rain and good/bad drivers. But, for a small (relative) investment you could make it excellent.

Another option could be keeping your current wheels/tires and installing a heavier rear sway bar.

And no, I'm not a suspension specialist.

Hope my input helps with your decision.
Please don't install a heavier rear sway. That will increase oversteer and will upset the car's balance. There is no low cost performance tire. You're going to need to spend the money for better tires. I have koni str shocks and after a few months I would not recommend them.

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Please don't install a heavier rear sway. That will increase oversteer and will upset the car's balance. There is no low cost performance tire. You're going to need to spend the money for better tires. I have koni str shocks and after a few months I would not recommend them.

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You are right on the oversteer, but why would you not recommend STR.Ts for daily street driving? Are you planning on switching to Koni Yellows?
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You are right on the oversteer, but why would you not recommend STR.Ts for daily street driving? Are you planning on switching to Koni Yellows?
I'm getting custom valved dampers. I'm not satisfied with the ride that off the shelf brands provide. I'm running steeda sport springs and the str.t shocks are under dampened. It's true the ride is less mushy but it hasn't translated into a better ride.

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Good to know. Thanks for the reply.
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