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Old 08-29-2015, 10:07 PM   #1
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Boss 302 vs 15 Gt Performance Pack

Which car? This is a hard choice to make because the boss 302 is a awesome car. What car best better overall? Like daily driver, track , trip , and a little fun on the treat!

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I don't like the S550 design so the Boss 302 cars are WAY more appealing to me. Looks like the Hennessy picture is your avatar....
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Old 08-30-2015, 12:48 PM   #3
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The s550 would be a better choice.
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The s550 would be a better choice.

As much as I dislike the S550 design your right.
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I don't like the design either
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Boss 302 is a better investment. I prefer the look of the s-197. S550's are great performing cars but a basic gt S550 won't be worth squat compared to a boss in 10+years. Plus the boss motor is a higher performing coyote. My .02

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Plus the boss motor is a higher performing coyote.
The new S550 5.0's use a lot of the parts from the Boss engines so they are pretty close in performance.
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The new S550 5.0's use a lot of the parts from the Boss engines so they are pretty close in performance.
444 HP for the Boss and 435 for the GT............pretty close, but the redline is 1,000 rpm higher in the Boss....wonder why?
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I don't like the design either

What's not to like? I think it is by far the best looking Mustang ever produced...different strokes, I guess.
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After driving the 15 with Performance Pak and owning a 14 TrakPak Mustang I would much rather have the 15. The performance is better, handling is better and the looks are starting to look good to me.
Don't get me wrong I like my 14..........it's just that the 15 is a stronger platform in my estimation.
The Boss 302 prices are already starting to fall, and I've see good less than 15k mile ones going for $35k....up to $45 for 5k mile car.
Personally I think there is more potential in the 15 than the 14.
Now if you want a low production car and like the 14's...try a 2014 GT350 with over 500hp........there are still a few new ones around as:

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This GT350 will be worth more money than any Boss 302.......now and in the future.

As for the Boss 302 motor and new 15 PP motor...........I think it's kind of six of one and half a dozen of the other. Like Grabber Blue5.0 said, a lot of Boss 302 parts are in the 15 Coyote. With a little work I think the new 15 PP could walk away from a 13 Boss 302 on the track.
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The 15 GT already beats the Boss on track
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The 15 GT already beats the Boss on track
Just goes to show that almost any Independent Rear Suspension will beat any finely tuned solid axle setup.
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The Boss 302 is a better track car, b/c it has the extra cooling, higher RPM engine, and better suspension parts (besides the solid rear axle). The main advantage of a 2013 Boss 302 will be that it hold its value far better as it was a limited edition "collectible" vehicle.

If you're looking for a more unique garage queen, that is somewhat special, the Boss would be the better choice.

The 2015 Performance Pack will perform similarly, handle better on a road course, and is more desirable as a daily driver, or all around vehicle. Better interior and amenities.
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Just goes to show that almost any Independent Rear Suspension will beat any finely tuned solid axle setup.

I wouldn't really say that. The Boss is set up better than the GT of the same year, but there is still an extreme amount of room for improvement. Not much you can do for the GT's IRS right now.

Just compare the 99-04 Cobras against the GT of the same year. (Picture is a 99 Roush)
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Roadrunner engine is still better,forged pistons,CNC heads,over 200#lighterand wider tires

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Not hard at all to get a coyote to that level.
But given an option of the two, I'd take the Boss home with me.


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I mean, stock, the GT is better, but yes, I'd take the Boss, especially considering how I nearly had one.
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Don't need a 15, just got a 15 fusion daily driver. Looks like I have a 15 stang already, parked under a carport with the front end showing.

Hope Ford refreshes soon with something unique (and 300 lbs less would be nice). Otherwise, keeping my 14 for long time.

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Why is a stock gt better?

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Don't need a 15, just got a 15 fusion daily driver. Looks like I have a 15 stang already, parked under a carport with the front end showing.

Hope Ford refreshes soon with something unique (and 300 lbs less would be nice). Otherwise, keeping my 14 for long time.

Never realized how similar they looked...wow.
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For the collector - 13' Boss 302. For a daily driver (which will get miles tacked on), the 15' GT w/ PP. Each one has it's own upsides. It is up to whoever is making the purchase to weigh the options. I personally would go for the 15' GT w/ PP because it would most likely be my daily driver while still be a strong competitor on the drag strip if needed.

Now if you are big on getting the most from Ford so more is covered under their warranty, then the 15' GT w/ PP will be the better option. As they can come Premium as well as many other things.

Again, buyer's preference.
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OX1 Can't tell the Stang from the fusion lol
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Haha, I would die laughing if someone went to Ford to look at Mustangs, wait for the Sales guy to take you over to the Mustangs, then after a few minutes, ask him why he has you looking at Fusions.
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For the collector - 13' Boss 302. For a daily driver (which will get miles tacked on), the 15' GT w/ PP. Each one has it's own upsides. It is up to whoever is making the purchase to weigh the options. I personally would go for the 15' GT w/ PP because it would most likely be my daily driver while still be a strong competitor on the drag strip if needed.

Now if you are big on getting the most from Ford so more is covered under their warranty, then the 15' GT w/ PP will be the better option. As they can come Premium as well as many other things.

Again, buyer's preference.
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if I was going to be gifted one it would be a difficult choice but one I would enjoy making. I would have to drive them both but I really like the look of the 2015's and eliminating the solid Rear axle although it does not bother me often for a driver that enjoys twisty roads would be a huge bonus. I think it would have to be a Laguna Seca to make me prefer the Boss.
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if I was going to be gifted one it would be a difficult choice but one I would enjoy making. I would have to drive them both but I really like the look of the 2015's and eliminating the solid Rear axle although it does not bother me often for a driver that enjoys twisty roads would be a huge bonus. I think it would have to be a Laguna Seca to make me prefer the Boss.
Exactly. But then if you had the Laguna Seca Boss, you would more than likely be hesitant to take on soo many miles on such a beauty. So that is when I prefer the 2015.
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Both are great cars, but the Boss is a better investment ( I own 2 Boss': 1 old 1970, 1 new 2013) and much more of an 'attention-getter' than the non-Boss Mustang.
Whichever you choose, enjoy it!
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Both are great cars, but the Boss is a better investment ( I own 2 Boss': 1 old 1970, 1 new 2013) and much more of an 'attention-getter' than the non-Boss Mustang.
Whichever you choose, enjoy it!
I have a friend with 33,000 original mile unrestored 70 Boss...and any 69 or 70 Boss will always be the only Boss 302 in my book. The 12 and 13 will never command the money the 69/70's will....IMHO
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I have a friend with 33,000 original mile unrestored 70 Boss...and any 69 or 70 Boss will always be the only Boss 302 in my book. The 12 and 13 will never command the money the 69/70's will....IMHO

No but the 12-13 boss will be collectable among the s-197's. A regular old s550 gt will be just another gt.
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No but the 12-13 boss will be collectable among the s-197's. A regular old s550 gt will be just another gt.
I don't disagree with you and the 2015/16 GT350 in my opinion will be worth more than 12/13 Boss 302's. It will also be interesting to see where the 2014 GT350's will be in the collector car world.....someday.
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I don't disagree with you and the 2015/16 GT350 in my opinion will be worth more than 12/13 Boss 302's. It will also be interesting to see where the 2014 GT350's will be in the collector car world.....someday.
In relative terms (invoice vs current market value) the old 69/70 Boss' will always command more $$. However, I am betting (literally) that the 2013 Boss (only about 3000 produced) will substantially increase in value (based on the market, economy, gas prices, etc) and the 2015 GT, as previously stated, will just be another GT of much lesser value.
Again, buy the 2015 if you want a daily driver and buy the Boss if you're looking for something really rare and special.
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UNLESS the opportunity presented itself where you could have both. lol
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In relative terms (invoice vs current market value) the old 69/70 Boss' will always command more $$. However, I am betting (literally) that the 2013 Boss (only about 3000 produced) will substantially increase in value (based on the market, economy, gas prices, etc) and the 2015 GT, as previously stated, will just be another GT of much lesser value.
Again, buy the 2015 if you want a daily driver and buy the Boss if you're looking for something really rare and special.
I thought there were 4000 2012 Boss 302's made and 4000 2013 Boss 302's with 750 of each year being Laguna Seca's.
I would think a Laguna Seca would be an excellent bet although I just don't see the 12/13 Boss 302 being a good short term investment..........maybe in 30 years but not in the next 10/15 as prices on very low mileage Boss 302 have started to drop in the past 12 months..........maybe because of the 2015 being introduction.........and maybe because of the GT350(R).
So, for a DD buy a 2015 and I'm sure you will be happy with the performance.
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You are correct: 3250 Boss' and 750 Boss LS' each year.
Total production ~9% less than 69/70 models.
I'm thinking strategically and I'll cash in @ 20 years.
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I went through the same decision last February and finally purchased a 2013 BOSS. I constantly get compliments on the car and love driving it. Once the warranty expires I'm thinking a supercharger might make it even more exciting. From what I've read the bottom end of the BOSS motor is built stronger and forced induction really works well with them.
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