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Old 12-03-2015, 11:14 AM   #1
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Rear axle is not square to the frame

I have a 2013 GT and I tried adding some new wheels last night at Discount Tire. I was putting on KMC 685's 20x10.5 in the rear and when they were installed the drivers side wheel stuck out from the body of my car about 1/2inch further than the passenger side. We thought maybe the backspacing on the wheel was different but everything was the same. I then had a body shop look at it and there was no body work that was done to it so they said it had to be a frame issue. I went home and measured from the rear frame to the outside brake rotor and there was a half inch difference between the driver side and passenger. I called a frame shop and they said that this is typical on mustangs and that the rear axle is not always square to the frame. They said I should get a adjustable panhard bar and that would correct the issue. Anyone else have any issues like this?

The car has not been in any major accidents that I know of. I bought it used in February of this year and it had a clean car fax report.
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the PH bar will correct the problem. Was the car lowered? Normally when you lower it you need an adj PH bar to correct it, but not everyone does.
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Yes, this is a normal issue, especially for the '13 and '14. My first '14 came from the factory with a major twist in the unibody and front subframe, to the tune of 6.5 degree of cross caster. According to a friend on the engineering team, they had whole batches of cars come out like that, but the problem was corrected for the later '14 cars. An adjustable panhard bar will fix that.

Plus one on adjustment being required if the car was lowered.
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I don't think it was lowered. Everything on it seemed stock to me and the wheel gap look normal like other mustangs. If wasn't lowered would the panhard bar still be the best way to fix the problem?
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ok thanks. I've been a ford man all my life but you would think that when you pay 40k for a car they would get it right!
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ok thanks. I've been a ford man all my life but you would like to think that when you pay 40k for a car they would get it right!
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ok thanks. I've been a ford man all my life but you would think that when you pay 40k for a car they would get it right!
They stamped out over 80,000 mustangs in your year. A few mistakes are sure to slip by QC. This is a relatively tame issue compared to what some of us have had to deal with.
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Still love the car though ! Just frustrating!
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I'm not sure if I am allowed to switch topics in this thread but what tire size would you guys recommend for that kmc 685 20x10.5. I had 305/35's on it last night and they seemed to bulge over the rim a bit and with that 1/2 inch extension problem they made my stang look like a 4x4. Would 285/35 be a good size on that rim for the rear? I have 255/35 up front.
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Panhard bar will fix that. Remember that even stock springs will soften with time me the car will be lower. Get a BMR panhard bar and you will also feel a better suspension.


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Sounds like it was off-center rather than out of square?
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I'm not sure if I am allowed to switch topics in this thread but what tire size would you guys recommend for that kmc 685 20x10.5. I had 305/35's on it last night and they seemed to bulge over the rim a bit and with that 1/2 inch extension problem they made my stang look like a 4x4. Would 285/35 be a good size on that rim for the rear? I have 255/35 up front.
I personally prefer a slight bulge over the wheel but then again, I'm a bit old school. Ran Dunlop GT Qualifiers' on everything back in "the day". Plus an added bit of protection from the accidental curbing.
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Sounds like it was off-center rather than out of square?
That's what I thought.
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I haven't seen one that didn't have some of this. It doesn't matter, as long as the thrust lines are parallel front to rear, the car will not be affected by this at all. If it irritates, as said, and adjustable Panhard will pull it in a bit.
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Mine is a bit off center too. You notice it when you go with wider wheels and tires.

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An adjustable pan hard rod will center the axle at the resting / parked position but when the suspension travels up and down while driving or if you change the load in the car, the axle will sill move back and forth from centered.
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