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Old 12-14-2015, 09:28 PM   #1
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Decided on nitto!!! But not on wheel size

I've finally decided that I'm gonna go with nitto 555. See a lot on doing the 555 on the front and invos 555r on the rear. I currently have 20's and from what I'm seeing that size isn't the best. What size should I go with 17,18 ? Car is lowered around 1 inch from roush. If you were me what would you do. Not a dd I'm looking for more grip and looks is very important. Not looking to drag at the track. Thanks
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I plan on 19" front and rear. Hopefully a 10.5" wide rim in the back and 9"-9.5" wise rim on the front. I like Forgestars for some reason.
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Unless you plan on Race Stars or something like that don't go any smaller than 18's. I personally think 19's look best on the 2011-2014's. Though 18's are best for performance, relatively speaking, and will have more tire options, and look good with the right sidewall ratio.

I would also look into wear ratings on the Nittos. If you don't plan on going to the track at all I would re-think the drag radials.
They tend to wear out much quicker and aren't the best in the rain.

If you want to stick with Nittos maybe look into the NT05's out back or regular Invos all around. The 555's are a decent tire for the fronts. Invos and NT05's are decent all around tires. Okay on the track, decent on the street, not bad in the rain.
Consider opening your horizons and you'll find Toyo R888's are highly recommended for grip oriented duty.
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Unless you plan on Race Stars or something like that don't go any smaller than 18's. I personally think 19's look best on the 2011-2014's. Though 18's are best for performance, relatively speaking, and will have more tire options, and look good with the right sidewall ratio.

I would also look into wear ratings on the Nittos. If you don't plan on going to the track at all I would re-think the drag radials.
They tend to wear out much quicker and aren't the best in the rain.

If you want to stick with Nittos maybe look into the NT05's out back or regular Invos all around. The 555's are a decent tire for the fronts. Invos and NT05's are decent all around tires. Okay on the track, decent on the street, not bad in the rain.
Consider opening your horizons and you'll find Toyo R888's are highly recommended for grip oriented duty.

Thanks for the input. Would it make much diff it I went from 20's to 19 or even 18's? I mean the 20's r roush and if there's not much diff then I'd rather keep them. That was my question? If u were me and had my car would u spend the money to downsize and not have the roush wheels to match the car?


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Thanks for the input. Would it make much diff it I went from 20's to 19 or even 18's? I mean the 20's r roush and if there's not much diff then I'd rather keep them. That was my question? If u were me and had my car would u spend the money to downsize and not have the roush wheels to match the car?


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Ah I see, missed the part about having the Roush's. I guess if it were me I'd decide 2 things.

1. How serious am I about grip/track oriented wheels/tires?
2. Do I like the Roush wheels enough to just keep them on for now or sell and get into 18' or 19's? Or can I afford to keep them with the car if I ever decide to sell it?

I think 20's are too heavy and will have trouble with a 30/35 sidewall if you push them hard on an autocross track etc. The reduced rotational mass of the 18's or even 19's would be beneficial, however I think your tire choices are slim when going to 19's. I think it comes down to looks vs performance, which one is more important.
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I've finally decided that I'm gonna go with nitto 555. See a lot on doing the 555 on the front and invos 555r on the rear. I currently have 20's and from what I'm seeing that size isn't the best. What size should I go with 17,18 ? Car is lowered around 1 inch from roush. If you were me what would you do. Not a dd I'm looking for more grip and looks is very important. Not looking to drag at the track. Thanks


The car I just bought has 20's front and rear with Nitto Invo's. It is lowered about an inch and the ride is pretty good. I do plan on changing it up come drag racing time but I am not sure on what I will go with.

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I have 20 roush 5 spoke chrome. Look at Roush 5 spoke chrome 18 s They are always for sale on ebay. Try Roushperformance.com,take offs and the like are plentiful quite a bargains around>
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I would not recommend the R888, it is a tire that is MANY generations old, and gets its lunch money stolen by the last generation of 200tw street tires, plus they can be driven in the rain (the Toyos are worthless once it gets wet). The current generation of 200tw tires are grippy enough to break your car. So much grip that I was able to torch the differential in a 2013 GT500 in first gear by flooring it at apex, but got no wheel spin (smell those clutches burning out).

One advantage to an 18" wheel is that tires are cheaper than on a 19" wheel, and less rare than the same width on a 17" wheel (though more expensive, weirdly). 18" diameter is Corvette size, so wide tires are relatively easy to come by.
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I'm leaning towards 18. Car is lowered around an inch from roush. Should or could I lower it more? And what size tire can I do with 18's?


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Ah I see, missed the part about having the Roush's. I guess if it were me I'd decide 2 things.

1. How serious am I about grip/track oriented wheels/tires?
2. Do I like the Roush wheels enough to just keep them on for now or sell and get into 18' or 19's? Or can I afford to keep them with the car if I ever decide to sell it?

I think 20's are too heavy and will have trouble with a 30/35 sidewall if you push them hard on an autocross track etc. The reduced rotational mass of the 18's or even 19's would be beneficial, however I think your tire choices are slim when going to 19's. I think it comes down to looks vs performance, which one is more important.

You'd be surprised what a light set of 20's will do. We weighted mine to see how them compared to the stock wheels. Come to find out the 20x8.5 MMD 551C's weight 23lbs and the rear 20x10 weight 26lbs. The stock 19x8.5 weight around 31 lbs.
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I plan on 19" front and rear. Hopefully a 10.5" wide rim in the back and 9"-9.5" wise rim on the front. I like Forgestars for some reason.

+1 to forgestars. 19x9/11 with 305s in the rear

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Just remember that Nittos run narrow. I had a 315 that was barely wider than a BFG 275. BFGs do run big... but no way in hell was that 555R tire a 315. More like a 285 or 295. So take that into account.

There are always the Mickey Thompson Street Comps which is what I am getting for my 2000 in 17" size. They do have a 285/35/19 available that would go perfect on a 19x10" rear rim and is the correct diameter for a S197. 255/40/19 on the narrower front rim and there you go.

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Just remember that Nittos run narrow. I had a 315 that was barely wider than a BFG 275. BFGs do run big... but no way in hell was that 555R tire a 315. More like a 285 or 295. So take that into account.

There are always the Mickey Thompson Street Comps which is what I am getting for my 2000 in 17" size. They do have a 285/35/19 available that would go perfect on a 19x10" rear rim and is the correct diameter for a S197. 255/40/19 on the narrower front rim and there you go.

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If you wanted the Mickeys you'd want to go 19s because of the available sizes. I did not know you were dead set on 18s. I personally think 18s are too small looking on a S197 but that's totally subjective.
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I have INVO on my 20"s. Like them for grip and they are great as my daily. Not so great at track but if you arent going to track... That said if really looking to hook up I wouldnt do 20's
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If you wanted the Mickeys you'd want to go 19s because of the available sizes. I did not know you were dead set on 18s. I personally think 18s are too small looking on a S197 but that's totally subjective.

I'm not dead set on 18s I'm just trying to find the best wheel and tire combo for what I'm trying to do. All I'm trying to figure out is if it's worth the money and time if I did go with 19s. Wouldn't make that much of a difference dropping one size? I agree with you that 19s would look better than a teens and 20s do look better than 19s but from what everyone is saying 20s are going to go cut it when I'm trying to The tires to grab better. So is there a big difference going from 20s to 19 or 18 to 19's?


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In other words if you were me and had my car that had 20s what would you do?


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Decided on nitto!!! But not on wheel size

Maybe get that drag car look. 17s (if they clear your calipers) with thick sidewalls, pizza cutters up front and a lot of meat in the back.


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Maybe get that drag car look. 17s (if they clear your calipers) with thick sidewalls, pizza cutters up front and a lot of meat in the back.


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Nitto 555 are pretty weak for a 400+ whp car. I had 285/35/20 on mine and I spun the rear wheels like they were nothing.

In corners, anything more than a quarter or third throttle would push the rear out in a drift depending on the steering input.

The MT Street Comp at 305/35/20 are much more stable in corners and offers a slightly marginally better acceleration and when the rear gives out its a more controlled drift compared to the 555.

However, I'll give it to the Nittos they lasted well over 35k miles and would have still another 10k in them before I swapped to the MTs.

Here's a comparison for the two tires as I experienced them. Hopefully you'll find some useful info.

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Acceleration: 5 / 7 / 8
Cornering: 5 / 7.5 / 8.5
Quiet-Comfort: 9 / 8 / 8.5
Value on Performance: NA / 8 / 8.5
Value on Longevity: NA / 9.5 / 6

MT is balding fast. 10k miles on them and already on its last 1-2k leg.


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Nitto 555 are pretty weak for a 400+ whp car. I had 285/35/20 on mine and I spun the rear wheels like they were nothing.

In corners, anything more than a quarter or third throttle would push the rear out in a drift depending on the steering input.

The MT Street Comp at 305/35/20 are much more stable in corners and offers a slightly marginally better acceleration and when the rear gives out its a more controlled drift compared to the 555.

However, I'll give it to the Nittos they lasted well over 35k miles and would have still another 10k in them before I swapped to the MTs.

Here's a comparison for the two tires as I experienced them. Hopefully you'll find some useful info.

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Acceleration: 5 / 7 / 8
Cornering: 5 / 7.5 / 8.5
Quiet-Comfort: 9 / 8 / 8.5
Value on Performance: NA / 8 / 8.5
Value on Longevity: NA / 9.5 / 6

MT is balding fast. 10k miles on them and already on its last 1-2k leg.


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How did u fit 305 in the rear? How big is ur wheel? 20x?


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How did u fit 305 in the rear? How big is ur wheel? 20x?


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I only run 2 drag radials. It's either the nitto nt05rs
Or the M&H race masters

I will be putting the 05r's on my new 18's


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Life is more than a 1/4 mile at a time lol

Or a rolling mile

Or stop light to stop light

Or tattoos and shots and buckets of beers... well ok this one maybe ranks pretty high

Sometimes a balance of pretty boy good looks, mixed with crisp on road handling that's well communicated by the suspension and low profile summer tires driven on smooth asphalt, matched up to a stick shift that goes clink clink every time you row it into gear heading into a sweeping curve in the country side, it don't matter who's faster or got more horsepower.

Besides... If you want straight line speed or ungodly track performance, there's a machine available by the nickname of Godzilla.




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Life is more than a 1/4 mile at a time lol

Or a rolling mile

Or stop light to stop light

Or tattoos and shots and buckets of beers... well ok this one maybe ranks pretty high

Sometimes a balance of pretty boy good looks, mixed with crisp on road handling that's well communicated by the suspension and low profile summer tires driven on smooth asphalt, matched up to a stick shift that goes clink clink every time you row it into gear heading into a sweeping curve in the country side, it don't matter who's faster or got more horsepower.

Besides... If you want straight line speed or ungodly track performance, there's a machine available by the nickname of Godzilla.




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Eh... they aren't "guaranteed to always win" but I would not call them overrated. Maybe a little overpriced? Maybe? They are kind of just a buy, point and shoot car that is legit holy **** fast.
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Eh... they aren't "guaranteed to always win" but I would not call them overrated. Maybe a little overpriced? Maybe? They are kind of just a buy, point and shoot car that is legit holy **** fast.
They are for the people that don't want to actually have to drive or try to be good at driving, but want something fast. Takes zero skill to drive a GTR. For the price of a GTR i'd rather get a Viper.
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Eh... they aren't "guaranteed to always win" but I would not call them overrated. Maybe a little overpriced? Maybe? They are kind of just a buy, point and shoot car that is legit holy **** fast.

Hey whether by an inch or a mile, winning is winning and almost never counts lol


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