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Old 12-29-2015, 11:55 AM   #1
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How many miles on your stock brembo pads (per set)?

Hello everyone, i know this alp depends on a thousand plus variables but I'm just curious, how many miles have y'all gotten (per set)on your brembo beagles before replacement is needed.
Next is, what'd you use to replace them? I absolutely hate the beale didst they expel!

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In a couple years of city driving they were about 1/2 worn up front. Watch it, the rears will wear out before the fronts do. They are small and the TC and SC are regularly interfering without throwing up a light on the dash.
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I ask because i am 1.5 years in at roughly 33k miles and need new pads, maybe rotors. I know they perform well but i guess i was thinking 33k is a fairly short life span.
I didn't think i was hard on my breaks but that's why I'm asking y'all how yours went.

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The BBP pads combine good bite with an aggressive compound that eats rotors quick, too (as well as producing an unbelievable mount of dust). There is no point in machining a rotor on a modern car, as there isn't much meat on them because materials are better and the manufacturers are trying to keep unsprung weight down. Just replace them, they aren't that expensive anyway.
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Although my 14 TrakPak is gone it had 11k miles and was only 30% gone. I did switch to the GT500 rear rotors and stock pads at 6k miles and they hardly showed any wear.
I have had OE disc brake rotors turned on my 2010 Dodge Ram pickup, my wifes 2009 Toyota Venza, son-in-laws 2012 Nissian Altima....the list goes on. I wouldn't buy rotors unless they can't be turned....it's a waste of money as far as I'm concerned. Spending $20 per rotor is a lot less expensive than $100 per rotor for new........IMHO
I really never got that much brake dust off the Brembo brakes.....maybe because I washed the car often...........never had an issue with the rears either.
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Cutting rotors means cutting the thermal mass that makes them work.
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How much thermal mass do you loose by turning the rotors 0.010"?
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If you want rotors to really last pay a few dollars extra for cryogenic treating. I got some (Stop Tech) for an import that is really hard on brake parts. With ceramic pads the rotors still had machining crosshatch after 3000 miles of stop & go! Freaked me out but the brakes were working fine both cold & hot with no change in pedal pressure from OEM.
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If you want rotors to really last pay a few dollars extra for cryogenic treating. I got some (Stop Tech) for an import that is really hard on brake parts. With ceramic pads the rotors still had machining crosshatch after 3000 miles of stop & go! Freaked me out but the brakes were working fine both cold & hot with no change in pedal pressure from OEM.
I know a Ford Ranger is MUCH different but using a similar combo i have about 135k on that set. No bs'ing!
Needless to say i was going to get something similar for sure. ..

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A lot of thermal mass. You have used rotors alreadly worn down, then you add the cut to that. Modern rotors don't have a lot of extra meat in them, for the reasons I outlined before.

Thermal mass, for those that don't know, is a measure of the ability of the rotor of drum to turn kinetic energy into heat, without its properties changing or becoming distorted.
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A lot of thermal mass. You have used rotors alreadly worn down, then you add the cut to that. Modern rotors don't have a lot of extra meat in them, for the reasons I outlined before.

Thermal mass, for those that don't know, is a measure of the ability of the rotor of drum to turn kinetic energy into heat, without its properties changing or becoming distorted.

That's why there are minimum specs. You are not going to notice anything if it's done within spec.
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As Oxford mentioned, every OEM rotor is mandated to put the minimum required thickness stamped into the rotor and no brake shop will turn a disc/drum below that. Having to buy new rotors every time you replace the pads is a myth....one that brake manufactures like to perpetuate.
With that said the amount of normal wear plus 0.002" is where they would turn the rotor down to....in most cases it will not be more than 0.015/0.020" total after turning....which equates to such a small percentage of thermal mass loss that it would be negligible and I doubt you could notice any difference in normal driving.
When I was drag racing I used lightweight solid discs and would change them every two seasons along with the pads......in SCCA racing we would usually change pads every 3rd/4th race weekend and turn the discs until they got below the minimum thickness.
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So the dealer just called and said new stock (Brembo) pads were 620 alone, plus turning the rotors, plus labor. Came out to $1500-$1600 for just a break job? Does this sound right? This sound crazy to me! I bought a service contract so I'm not to worried, it just seems ludicrous.

The funny part was the contract was bought for $1500 and included 10 oil changes, the above mentioned break job, and a tranny service. Apparently the lady charged me for the wrong one. That lady screwed up on so much i basically bought the car for half off, it was a hell of a deal!

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So the dealer just called and said new stock (Brembo) pads were 620 alone, plus turning the rotors, plus labor. Came out to $1500-$1600 for just a break job? Does this sound right? This sound crazy to me! I bought a service contract so I'm not to worried, it just seems ludicrous.

The funny part was the contract was bought for $1500 and included 10 oil changes, the above mentioned break job, and a tranny service. Apparently the lady charged me for the wrong one. That lady screwed up on so much i basically bought the car for half off, it was a hell of a deal!

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So the dealer just called and said new stock (Brembo) pads were 620 alone, plus turning the rotors, plus labor. Came out to $1500-$1600 for just a break job? Does this sound right? <snip>
I did some research for my Brembo TP and found the pads are sourced by Ford from an American company that also made pads for the modern Boss 302. I tried contacting them but got no reply on the compound specifics. $620 for a set seems really high unless they have some very special compound.
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So the dealer just called and said new stock (Brembo) pads were 620 alone, plus turning the rotors, plus labor. Came out to $1500-$1600 for just a break job? Does this sound right? This sound crazy to me! I bought a service contract so I'm not to worried, it just seems ludicrous.

The funny part was the contract was bought for $1500 and included 10 oil changes, the above mentioned break job, and a tranny service. Apparently the lady charged me for the wrong one. That lady screwed up on so much i basically bought the car for half off, it was a hell of a deal!

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You bought a service contract that covered brakes.....I've never heard of one that covers normal wear and tear items like brakes or was this some kind of special service contract the dealer made up?
A normal brake job on all four wheels is anywhere from $400/600 which includes turning the discs and new pads.
If I were in your shoes I'd run not walk away from that dealer....I assume it is a used car dealer and not a new car dealer..........I'd be tempted to turn them in to the Better Business Bureau.
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I did some research for my Brembo TP and found the pads are sourced by Ford from an American company that also made pads for the modern Boss 302. I tried contacting them but got no reply on the compound specifics. $620 for a set seems really high unless they have some very special compound.
The brake pads for the Boss 302 and TrakPak are the same....ceramic. The Laguna has non-production pads that are expensive.
The Boss/Brembo pads are list for $227 and with a jobber discount you should be able to buy them for $150. Part #7R3Z-2001-A.
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That's why there are minimum specs. You are not going to notice anything if it's done within spec.
You may well notice if you need to really push the brakes hard one day.

minimal spec doesn't mean ideal performance, it means the minimum still acceptable. You cut brings it close, if not already to minimum and guess what? In a couple months you are under minimum.

This is totally false economy. There is only .079" difference between the nominal thickness of new front rotors and the discard thickness. Quality BBP front rotors like Raybestos Pro Grade are about $60 on Amazon, rears as low as $25.
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You may well notice if you need to really push the brakes hard one day.



minimal spec doesn't mean ideal performance, it means the minimum still acceptable. You cut brings it close, if not already to minimum and guess what? In a couple months you are under minimum.



This is totally false economy. There is only .079" difference between the nominal thickness of new front rotors and the discard thickness. Quality BBP front rotors like Raybestos Pro Grade are about $60 on Amazon, rears as low as $25.

You are absolutely right. YOU should buy new rotors.
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Anyone that is running the stock brembo pads that has not had problems with brake fade will likely never have a problem with a light resurface on the rotors. Their brake needs are moderate. For people pushing the brembos to a point fade and needing a track pad I would agree with new rotors.

If you are looking for a great street pad with little dust look at the carbotech 1590. $170.00 for the fronts
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You may well notice if you need to really push the brakes hard one day.
Of the 42 vehicles I have owned, I can't say I have felt any difference in really hard braking in any of them after cutting rotors, and I've run the gambit on different types of vehicles, IMO.

I do admit, that 6 didn't have any rotors, and 3 have so little mileage, I don't know yet.

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How many miles on your stock brembo pads (per set)?

Just swapped out my pads like 300 miles ago.

Was worn and started squealing at 53,500 miles

I allow the engine to break before hitting the intersection at lights and stops so it helped the longevity.


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Anyone that is running the stock brembo pads that has not had problems with brake fade will likely never have a problem with a light resurface on the rotors. Their brake needs are moderate. For people pushing the brembos to a point fade and needing a track pad I would agree with new rotors.<snip>
I agree. I measured a front Brembo caliper temperature of only 340 degrees after 10 hard braking tests from highway speeds. Zero fade and no fluid problem. The rear Ford calipers were 20 degrees cooler so Ford did a great job for street and anything but full on track hooning
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