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Old 01-05-2016, 02:02 PM   #1
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2011 or 2015 if you had the choice

My favorite body and interior will always be the 2010-12.

I wanted to get a 2011 but love the 2015 independent rear.

Was going to get a 2011 and supercharge it for the price of a 2015.

I know it's personal preference but what's the advantage of a 2015 over 2011 5.0 beside price.

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My favorite body and interior will always be the 2010-12.

I wanted to get a 2011 but love the 2015 independent rear.

Was going to get a 2011 and supercharge it for the price of a 2015.

I know it's personal preference but what's the advantage of a 2015 over 2011 5.0 beside price.

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Resale value.

Buy a 2011 and its worthless in a year for resale. Mod it and its even more worthless. They looked outdated already to the 99% majority, as soon as the 2015's hit the streets.

Buy a 2015 and its worth $30k+ for a few years as long as its the newest body style.
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For me it's not about resale it's a car I want to have power and to keep.

Be my sleeping beauty, awake her when I want to have fun.
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Resale value.



Buy a 2011 and its worthless in a year for resale. Mod it and its even more worthless. They looked outdated already to the 99% majority, as soon as the 2015's hit the streets.



Buy a 2015 and its worth $30k+ for a few years as long as its the newest body style.

I wouldn't say that. The 2011 will be worth less but it costs a lot less too. Same thing when people say the v6s are worth less then the gts. Both situations are a no brainier as they cost less initially.

Given that ford had already had instances where they are giving good rebates on the 15s and 16s so you can get base models under 30 and premium models in the low 30s so in a few years they will depreciate just like any new car.

As far as benefits of the 11 vs 15. Aside from cost and minor HP increase the interior is nicer although this is subjective and the IRS. But if your drag race a lot you may prefer the SA.


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I can build a nice hp 11 for the price is pay for the 15 plus when I decided to SC the 15 new parts are still expensive.

The 15 is beautiful don't get me wrong, I'm just torn because I love the 11 body and interior. Price is good I don't care about trying to sell it. It's a car to keep no matter 15/16 or the 11 year

If I get a brembo package 11

engine and suspension what's the differences between 11 and 15/16
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11-14 are my years. Only way I'd get a 15/16 is if it was a Gaurd Green 5.0 Vert. Check around, don't limit yourself to just a few dealers. Some dealers don't list ALL the cars they have for sale...
I do like the interior switches on the 15 though....
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11-14 any day. I love the styling, in and out. It's nearly perfect to me.

I test drove a 15 Ecoboost and couldn't stand it. The interior felt cramped. I don't normally suffer from claustrophobia, but I was starting to by the end of my trip (15 miles). The hood also gets in the way. I had a hard time telling where exactly the front of the car was.

That being said, I like the engine and suspension of the 15, but I would definitely vote 11-14. 13-14 specifically since I love that body style most.
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15 GT brakes are as good as 11 Brembo's.
15 Brembos are even better.

if this is a car to keep... wouldn't you want to start with a newer one.

Back to my point, lets say you keep it 5-10 years. In 5 years to the year 2021, the 2015 will still have a healthy resale price modded or not as it should still be the same generation. The 2011, will 10 be years old and considered ancient. If you keep longer, just multiply that.

Its the equivalent of the 4th generation body styles now (1994-2004). Back then we had no idea horsepower & performance would be so much better. Or how dated the car would look now in comparison.

Trust me, this is a major generational change. A 2015 will look relatively fresh for almost 10 years, based on previous generation cycles. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything except 2013 or newer. A slight advantage of 2013/2014's is they look like the prior years Shelby GT500s.

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2015-2024 = Gen 6

A 2015 will look "relatively new" until probably 2024!!

If you really want a "Gen 5" car, I'll sell you my 2014 GT Premium Convertible, fully loaded with Brembo's added, I'm about to sell mine. $40k even.

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2011 or 2015 if you had the choice

Besides the body anything really change engine wise in the 15 compared to the 11

I know IRS in the rear but other then suspension and looks performance wise what changes are we talking about in the engine and trans. I know the 15+ has paddle shift now.

This is a weekend car not everyday. Will be keeping sleeping beaut in the garage till I want some fun on my off days. Resale isn't something I'll be doing.
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Besides the body anything really change engine wise in the 15 compared to the 11

I know IRS in the rear but other then suspension and looks performance wise what changes are we talking about in the engine and trans. I know the 15+ has paddle shift now.

This is a weekend car not everyday. Will be keeping sleeping beaut in the garage till I want some fun on my off days. Resale isn't something I'll be doing.
Better engine internals. Similar to Boss 302 internals. Actually kind of inbetween 2014 GT & 2014 Boss 302.

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it does pump out 435 horsepower at 6500 rpm and 400 lb-ft at 4250 rpm, increases over the old 5.0 of 15 horsepower and 10 lb-ft. The extra output was achieved via improved head flow (which Ford was able to accomplish through casting rather than expensive machining), larger valves with increased (Boss 302โ€“spec) lift, stiffer valve springs, the Bossโ€™s forged connecting rods, and some aesthetically pleasing tubular headers. The compression ratio remains 11.0:1, and an oil cooler is now standard. The 5.0 commands an $8500 premium over the V-6, which equates to $63 per additional pony.
Back up cameras standard. (nice to have)

IRS will be a better road car over bumps and in turns.

And Body. Body. Body.
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15 GT brakes are as good as 11 Brembo's.
15 Brembos are even better.

if this is a car to keep... wouldn't you want to start with a newer one.

Back to my point, lets say you keep it 5-10 years. In 5 years to the year 2021, the 2015 will still have a healthy resale price modded or not as it should still be the same generation. The 2011, will 10 be years old and considered ancient. If you keep longer, just multiply that.

Its the equivalent of the 4th generation body styles now (1994-2004). Back then we had no idea horsepower & performance would be so much better. Or how dated the car would look now in comparison.

Trust me, this is a major generational change. A 2015 will look relatively fresh for almost 10 years, based on previous generation cycles. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything except 2013 or newer. A slight advantage of 2013/2014's is they look like the prior years Shelby GT500s.

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1964-73 Gen 1
1974-78 - Gen 2 - exception to the 10 year rule, it should have gone to 84
1979-93 - Gen 3
1994-2004 - Gen 4
2005-2014 - Gen 5
2015-2024 = Gen 6

A 2015 will look "relatively new" until probably 2024!!

If you really want a "Gen 5" car, I'll sell you my 2014 GT Premium Convertible, fully loaded with Brembo's added, I'm about to sell mine. $40k even.

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Guy who is preaching resale yet wants sticker price for his used car.

It will be a cold day in hell before you find a dingus with 40k to drop on your car bud.


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Besides the body anything really change engine wise in the 15 compared to the 11

I know IRS in the rear but other then suspension and looks performance wise what changes are we talking about in the engine and trans. I know the 15+ has paddle shift now.

This is a weekend car not everyday. Will be keeping sleeping beaut in the garage till I want some fun on my off days. Resale isn't something I'll be doing.

I am a fan of the 13-14 (obviously) but I actually pulled the trigger on my 14 after I saw the 15 and was not excited about the new body style.

You can do anything to a car, so anything you like about the 15+ can be had on a 11-14. Especially if it's yours forever and you don't care about money spent over time. Don't be the guy who buys a new one because it's the new one. Buy what makes you happy. I vote you dive them both and do a pros and cons sheet and make your decision.

Personally I'd rather spend less on the car and drop a whipple on it than flush that money down the drain with instant depreciation.


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Well hopefully soon I'll be working at a Ford dealership in Cali so if get a good price on either new or used.

I do like the 2015 and do love the 2011 body and for the price I could do so much if I were to buy new one.

For me it's not about just to have the new one. It's the car and engine and performance over looks.
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Guy who is preaching resale yet wants sticker price for his used car.
If you clicked the link you'd see it was an over $46k sticker car to begin with + $8k in mods. I "discounted" my car $10k & only asking 50% for the mods which is extremely fair considering, the car has barely been driven. Its a garage queen with less than 3,900 miles on it in the 16 months I've owned it.

GT Premium Convertible with everything, Navigation, back up camera, premium leather, etc, etc.

I just get bored easily and I'm thinking about buying a 2016 Cayman GT4. I missed my 2006 Cayman S with Turbo.
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2011 or 2015 if you had the choice

Between the two, if this an option, 11 GT/CS. If we're talking strictly about GTs and not Boss or Shelby cars.


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Or 13 Boss I like the front bumper better.
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If you clicked the link you'd see it was an over $46k sticker car to begin with + $8k in mods. I "discounted" my car $10k & only asking 50% for the mods which is extremely fair considering, the car has barely been driven. Its a garage queen with less than 3,900 miles on it in the 16 months I've owned it.

GT Premium Convertible with everything, Navigation, back up camera, premium leather, etc, etc.

I just get bored easily and I'm thinking about buying a 2016 Cayman GT4. I missed my 2006 Cayman S with Turbo.

Mods don't add value. So you might as well take them off or chalk it up to life lessons.

When you drove your 46k sticker car off the lot it was worth 40. And I'm guessing you didn't pay 46k. Not trying to be a dick or muck up this thread but you will be lucky to get over 29k for your car.


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Resale value is a load of BS pitched initially by dealers to make you feel good about your purchase. Cars depreciate it's just the way it is. You can count on that new Mustang dropping 40-50% off of retail in three years guaranteed. That goes for 95% of the vehicles sold today. The only way you can buffer your depreciation is to buy at or below the dealer invoice cost and have some rebates working as well. The problem with any rebate Ford or any other auto maker offers is that it automatically lowers the resale on any vehicle that was purchased earlier that model year. I would say that Mustangs in general have weak resale and selling a modded car is even worse. With a modded car you have significantly decreased the number of people who would consider the vehicle. You are selling to a niche crowd.

So, if you buy a new don't settle for less than 200 under invoice and plan on loosing a good chunk of change to own that latest body style. Now, the 2011 can be a great buy if you can find a low mile unmolested car or a well documented modded car. The depreciation will be much less than the new mustang and you will loose less over your ownership.

I like the retro style of the 2011-14 and bought a 14 knowing there was a body change coming. I still don't care for the new style. I would not be surprised if ford makes a change to the flat plane crank in the future into the gt. They dropped the coyote in after the 10 model so why wouldn't they do it again and leave out the 15 or 16. That would be the only thing that would make me consider the new style if it had the new flat plane motor.

I say buy the 11 build it how you like it you will be $$$ ahead.
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I just made that choice, and I opted for the 2016 for a large number of reasons.
That said, it comes down to what you want and what your goals are.

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I was the same as Oxford. Was really excited about the 15. Saw it in person, and bought a 14 GT. Not a fan at all of the new body style.

In the end, get the one you like better.
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I drove a base 15 and the interior sucked, so unless you can pony up for the premium interior save your coin and go with an S197. I ended up getting my loaded 2012 with 24k miles on it in the low $20k range, and the S197's appear to be a tad quicker stock for stock since they weight a little bit less as well. Personally I love the look of the 11-12's front end and the 13-14's back end, so I was torn...
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I did have the choice and went with a 2011.
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I'd buy a 11/12 GT from a known member of one of the forums I belong to in a heartbeat over a 2015/16.


For YOU it will be up to you to go test drive a few of them and see what you like. As you can see, some people on here don't like the S550 and some of them love it. Its all personal preference. Your car, you should make sure you are happy with it.


I'd also suggest going to test drive a 2016 Camaro as well just for comparison sake if nothing else. Performance wise it has the S550 beaten. *puts on flame retardant suit*
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Resale value.

Buy a 2011 and its worthless in a year for resale. Mod it and its even more worthless. They looked outdated already to the 99% majority, as soon as the 2015's hit the streets.

Buy a 2015 and its worth $30k+ for a few years as long as its the newest body style.
Actually, the 2005's looked outdated the first day they hit the streets. They were and are a retro pony. Retro from the outdated 60's mustangs. That's the beauty of the S197, That's its purpose.

My 2011 pony looks just as fresh and in fact fresher than the first day I had her back in 2010.,

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Guy who is preaching resale yet wants sticker price for his used car.

It will be a cold day in hell before you find a dingus with 40k to drop on your car bud.


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Mods don't add value. So you might as well take them off or chalk it up to life lessons.

When you drove your 46k sticker car off the lot it was worth 40. And I'm guessing you didn't pay 46k. Not trying to be a dick or muck up this thread but you will be lucky to get over 29k for your car.


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I'll go one even further sir. The car may of listed for 46k but I know for a fact that dealership's were taking 7k off MSRP with the factory rebates on the 2014's. I know because my father got 7k off his 2014 CS and so did many others on here who posted.

So the 46k car MSRP actually was sold for 38k. He wants 40k which is most likely 2k more than what the car was bought for. Mods don't add that much actual price value so the fact that someone wants 50% back on their mods is just not realistic. You might get a few bucks more but someone isn't getting back 5k from their 10k in mods.

But by some chance if their is a sucker in here, I will sell you my very rare limited bones edition 3.7 (1 of 1) for 30k. Only one made in the universe and comes complete with my signature.


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I'll go one even further sir. The car may of listed for 46k but I know for a fact that dealership's were taking 7k off MSRP with the factory rebates on the 2014's. I know because my father got 7k off his 2014 CS and so did many others on here who posted.

So the 46k car MSRP actually was sold for 38k. He wants 40k which is most likely 2k more than what the car was bought for. Mods don't add that much actual price value so the fact that someone wants 50% back on their mods is just not realistic. You might get a few bucks more but someone isn't getting back 5k from their 10k in mods.


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Agreed. Look at the Coyotes and GT500s selling these days. $25k for a full bolt on/tuned Roushcharged 2012 with 20k-something miles, $30k for a 2007 GT500 with all the high end stuff and a TVS and 34k miles. Mods don't add anything, not to a buyer who doesn't have a pile of money burning a hole in their wallet anyway.
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I think it is all about preference and not just looks. If you are already thinking about a supercharger then I say the 2011. I do like those looks better than the 2015 but that isn't even it. When I got mine I thought about a GT500 but knew that was stretching the dollars and I would be as is. I like the customization, modding and making it my own. So I got yhe 5.0. Same premise really. The 2011 will budget you more for supercharger, appearance and suspension mods, slicks, lol, list goes on.
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I'm going to be working for a Ford dealership and will find a used either or model. Or good price.

I work valet right now and driven all years stangs and models.

I do like the paddle shift autos, interior is 7/10 to me for the 15/16

The 2011 is a 9/10 interior.

What I found out today from the interview is that Ford "Rumor" is thinking going smaller engine with more power like the GT pushing over 600hp. On the 3.5 TT
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The Mustang going to a 3.5TT has been a rumor for a long time now and I can definitely see it happening as the base offering for the GT due to EPA regulations, the "global model" and also because it'll be more powerful. Or at least as powerful with way more potential in the aftermarket.


3.5L TT V6 paired to whatever 8 or 10 speed auto Ford releases with a converter will be godlike at the 1/4 mile track.
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I have a 2012 GT/CS and I have the 2013 taillights. I love the looks of mine. I think the 13/14 GT/CS's look way to much like the standard GT, just minus the driving lights in the grille. I thought the 11/12 GT/CS looked way more aggressive in the front. I was specifically looking for that year when I found one with 5800 miles on it. I stole the '13 side stripe too. my car's black, and the black on black stripe didn't do it for me.
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Go with the car you're going to love getting into every time you get into it.
3 years with my supercharged '12 GT and each year, first few rides if the spring, my clutch foot shakes with excitement like a dog getting its belly rubbed. '12 is what I wanted, no complaints and I wouldn't trade it for a 15/16. GT350 would deserve a test drive ๐Ÿ™‚
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I have a 2012 GT/CS and I have the 2013 taillights. I love the looks of mine. I think the 13/14 GT/CS's look way to much like the standard GT, just minus the driving lights in the grille. I thought the 11/12 GT/CS looked way more aggressive in the front. I was specifically looking for that year when I found one with 5800 miles on it. I stole the '13 side stripe too. my car's black, and the black on black stripe didn't do it for me.

Lol wut. I bought a 13 gtcs because it doesn't look like an everyday GT.


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