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Old 01-13-2016, 07:14 PM   #1
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Can I use E85 in my 2014 GT?

I passed a station today and I noticed they had E85 as well as regular unleaded. What's the difference in the two?

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You would need injectors and a tune,
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Thanks. I'll pass on it for now. Doesn't look like I would benefit much from it though.

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Thanks. I'll pass on it for now. Doesn't look like I would benefit much from it though.

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I have it. Made a lot in the mid range area. Almost 20tq difference all across the mid range


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Hmm. I'll look into it later than. Is it much better than the stock tune and injectors? I'm still on those.

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Yeah. There's more power for sure. I'm over 400tq thanks to e85. At peak it's only ~10hp but it's under the curve where you feel it. Smells so good too


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I really really REALLY wish we had E85 readily available around NJ. Problem is that we have refineries out the *** so its not economical at all to have it here vs regular petrol.
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I really really REALLY wish we had E85 readily available around NJ. Problem is that we have refineries out the *** so its not economical at all to have it here vs regular petrol.


I'm with you. I would like to run it in my mustang and my Focus ST, but it's not readily available in my area.


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There's a station that sells E85 about 5 miles from my house...I may have to look into this.

What size injectors would you recommend to upgrade to for E85?
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I'll be going E85 in the spring. $280 for 47## injectors and $100 for the toon. Money well spent to run 105+ octane.
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I really really REALLY wish we had E85 readily available around NJ. Problem is that we have refineries out the *** so its not economical at all to have it here vs regular petrol.
It's the same here in Northern California. There's lots of refineries and very few e85 stations. I have one about 2 miles from me and the next closest is about 40 miles away.
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I've been running e85 for years. In my opinion it's not worth it unless you are boosted.
Then you really reap the benefits. N/A you can get Bolt ons to easily make the small amount of power gains you will get N/A with e85. But that's just my opinion.
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Now I may be one of the few, but I'm actually also saving money on e85. Right now I can tank up for 22$ and I still get 280 miles or so on a tank. 300 plus if it's highway.


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It's the same here in Northern California. There's lots of refineries and very few e85 stations. I have one about 2 miles from me and the next closest is about 40 miles away.
If I had a few stations near me I'd switch. Problem is if you only have one and you tune for E85 and it goes out of business you are screwed.
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E85? You do know that means 15% corn based alcohol, yes? Alcohol is a terrible fuel for gasoline engines and worse for causing corrosion in fuel lines and hates aluminum; it is very corrosive. By using it you will notice a loss in power and gas mileage as well as accelerated deterioration of equipment. You can't really tune your way out of all that stuff. Where possible street clear of it. Cheaper yes, but then do you want to feed your pony hay or oats!
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E85? You do know that means 15% corn based alcohol, yes? Alcohol is a terrible fuel for gasoline engines and worse for causing corrosion in fuel lines and hates aluminum; it is very corrosive. By using it you will notice a loss in power and gas mileage as well as accelerated deterioration of equipment. You can't really tune your way out of all that stuff. Where possible street clear of it. Cheaper yes, but then do you want to feed your pony hay or oats!
Its 85 % ethanol and 15% gasoline...and it's not that bad dude, really.
Now straight up alcohol (methanol) is a different story.....that's probably what you are thinking about, but e 85 is not a big deal.
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Opps, I had it backwards in my missive . . . but that makes it worse! Gasoline has higher energy level that ethanol. A car won't even run on pure ethanol.
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Opps, I had it backwards in my missive . . . but that makes it worse! Gasoline has higher energy level that ethanol. A car won't even run on pure ethanol.
I've been running the stuff for years, many of my buds have been much longer than that. No problems here at all. As long as you are setup for it it's no big deal.
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No E85 in Maryland near me or Delaware. Never seen E85 in Maryland or Delaware anywhere. I do have access to 100 octane Aviation fuel

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E85? You do know that means 15% corn based alcohol, yes? Alcohol is a terrible fuel for gasoline engines and worse for causing corrosion in fuel lines and hates aluminum; it is very corrosive. By using it you will notice a loss in power and gas mileage as well as accelerated deterioration of equipment. You can't really tune your way out of all that stuff. Where possible street clear of it. Cheaper yes, but then do you want to feed your pony hay or oats!


A lot of misinformation. Only thing true about what you said is a loss in MPG. That of course is due to the efficiency of ethanol vs methanol causing you to use 30% more ethanol.



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E85? You do know that means 15% corn based alcohol, yes? Alcohol is a terrible fuel for gasoline engines and worse for causing corrosion in fuel lines and hates aluminum; it is very corrosive. By using it you will notice a loss in power and gas mileage as well as accelerated deterioration of equipment. You can't really tune your way out of all that stuff. Where possible street clear of it. Cheaper yes, but then do you want to feed your pony hay or oats!
I think you need to do more research on E85.
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I'll be going E85 in the spring. $280 for 47## injectors and $100 for the toon. Money well spent to run 105+ octane.
So, 47#'s are the recommended injectors then?

Now let me ask this: If I were to upgrade to 47# injectors to run E85, would those same 47# injectors work if I were to later install a Vortech V3-Si or Procharger P-1SC-1 tuner kit with a 93 octane tune?
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So, 47#'s are the recommended injectors then?

Now let me ask this: If I were to upgrade to 47# injectors to run E85, would those same 47# injectors work if I were to later install a Vortech V3-Si or Procharger P-1SC-1 tuner kit with a 93 octane tune?
ID 1000's are the injector of choice.....especially if you are going FI.
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ID 1000's are the injector of choice.....especially if you are going FI.
Would 47# injectors be adequate to handle the fuel need for the basic Vortech or Procharger kits though?
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Would 47# injectors be adequate to handle the fuel need for the basic Vortech or Procharger kits though?
I doubt it.....but I'm not a tuner.
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Would 47# injectors be adequate to handle the fuel need for the basic Vortech or Procharger kits though?

Nope, not with e85


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If I were to upgrade to 47# injectors to run E85, would those same 47# injectors work if I were to later install a Vortech V3-Si or Procharger P-1SC-1 tuner kit with a 93 octane tune?
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Nope, not with e85
What about with a 93 octane tune?
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What about with a 93 octane tune?
Pick your blower and use the injectors they recommend.
If your going FI and also going to e85 just go right for the ID 1000's and save yourself the trouble of doing this twice. Those are the smoothest operating injectors and will have enough capacity to do whatever you want. Your tuner will thank you for it.
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I will never run E85.

I worked for a large Leo agency near a Ford test track and facility..they GAVE us free police vehicles that only used E85 to test. They were junk and crushed after 6-12 months from the corrosion issues and whatever else that crap eats in the fuel delivery process from the tank to the boom in the motor. Of course, they used this knowledge from our test cars to make them "marketable" but still..... They were absolute garbage to drive and keep running like a new car should run.
These motors were designed and purpose built to burn good old dinosaur guts refined down to sweet smellin gasojuice.
The E85 "flex fuel" labels and tweaks to current vehicles is just added low cost or slightly modified fuel system components to be able to "safely" "also" use E85 and gasoline in the same engine.
I would much rather use E85 or whatever else non gasoline in a motor built and designed just for that fuel.
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Take a motor ran on e85 for a 5,000 miles and a motor ran on 93 octane for 5,000 miles, and tear them down. You will never run regular pumpgas again promise


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I will never run E85.

I worked for a large Leo agency near a Ford test track and facility..they GAVE us free police vehicles that only used E85 to test. They were junk and crushed after 6-12 months from the corrosion issues and whatever else that crap eats in the fuel delivery process from the tank to the boom in the motor. Of course, they used this knowledge from our test cars to make them "marketable" but still..... They were absolute garbage to drive and keep running like a new car should run.
These motors were designed and purpose built to burn good old dinosaur guts refined down to sweet smellin gasojuice.
The E85 "flex fuel" labels and tweaks to current vehicles is just added low cost or slightly modified fuel system components to be able to "safely" "also" use E85 and gasoline in the same engine.
I would much rather use E85 or whatever else non gasoline in a motor built and designed just for that fuel.
Huge difference between a "flex fuel" car that changes its own engine parameters to run E85 or regular gasoline, and a car set up and tuned specifically for it. Flex fuel cars are designed so you can run either gasoline or E85 in them, so the engine makes its own adjustments. A car specifically set up and tuned for it, and only that specific fuel ran will be far better than one that is designed to run either.

Set it up right and put on a good tune and there will be 0, zilch, squat, nada issue. In this case with the 5.0, all you need is injectors and a tune.
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You can run 47lb injectors with 93 gas on a base tuned supercharger. If you wanna up it then you need id1000.


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Thanks fellas.

I did some searching and reading through the install manuals - Procharger base kits come with 50# and Vortech with 47# injectors.
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E85 injectors have to be much bigger.
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