All auto gt's select shift? - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 2011-2014 Mustang GT



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 04-02-2016, 05:59 PM   #1
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: winter springs
Region: Florida
Posts: 230
All auto gt's select shift?

How do u all feel your car has the most power and pick up? Auto , sport mode or select shift mode? I just started playing around with all of them.


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
buddyrich14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-02-2016, 06:07 PM   #2
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Region: Florida
Posts: 377
leave it in D, it has been tested on the strip its the fastest. The only time i use sport mode is driving in city only because it holds gears longer and as for the select shift its probably the worst out of the 3 but its an option for some who wants to do some manual shifting with a button.
__________________
13' Mustang GT, A6, Whiteline adj. phb & support brace, Roush a/b, Boss 302 brace, Pioneer door speakers, Alpine 10" 500 Watt RMS Amp and Sub, Michelin Pilot Super Sport
winkawak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 06:11 PM   #3
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: winter springs
Region: Florida
Posts: 230
Sometimes it feels more responsive in select shift mode because you can control the power range.


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
buddyrich14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 04-02-2016, 06:38 PM   #4
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
Select shift is for imitating a manual on the backroad. It's pretty good for that, for an automatic. D and S have the same upshift behaviour. S just locks out the second overdrive and downshifts more aggressively and will hold you in the overrun at higher revs.

Frankly, I love having 3 shifting choices. I usually leave it in S around town. I go up and down hills and the upshift behaviour under light throttle is a little early so the engine can end up lugging a bit, popping it down a gear manually instead of putting your boot down is a preferred alternative to me.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 06:40 PM   #5
Registered Member
Regular
 
DiESeven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Richmond
Region: Virginia
Posts: 1,909
I pretty much only use select shift for on ramps so I can hold 3rd and then punch it. Then I slide it in to drive.


Instagram: @v6beast
DiESeven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 06:43 PM   #6
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: winter springs
Region: Florida
Posts: 230
The one thing I hate is when u hit it you have that split second down shift (I call it a hesitation) before it takes off like a rocket


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
buddyrich14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 07:09 PM   #7
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
That same split second would have been you moving the gear lever in a manual but, I understand what you mean.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 07:44 PM   #8
Registered Member
Regular
 
grabber12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: High desert
Region: California
Posts: 575
In D is best but when I'm racing and it spins just a little in 1st it automatically shifts to 3rd then back to 2nd. Most annoying thing ever!!!! When its a money race I always shift manually because I cant afford for it to play the shifting game. It did it with the Bama tune and it does it with the Mike Roush tune so it might be a safety feature.
__________________
2012 Grabber blue, Auto, Eibach pro street S coilovers, MM caster/camber plates, Borla ATAK cat back, off road X pipe, A.E.M CAI, SCT-x4 Mike Roush tune,SR LCA's, BMR Relocation brackets, J&M Pan hard bar, UPR Catch can, SVE 15x10's, Mickey T's 275-60-15.
grabber12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 08:23 PM   #9
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
It's part of the programming to regain traction. If you have traction it won't do this. get better tires or traction aids.

When I am on the road, I slightly pedal second so, i won't do this on the upshift when it wants to blow the tires off in second.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 09:31 PM   #10
Registered Member
Regular
 
grabber12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: High desert
Region: California
Posts: 575
I would really like to put the 13-14 auto shifter on my 2012 so I have the shifting capability with my thumb. I think its much more then just a shifter swap. anyone have info on that. Im thinking my trans isn't even programmed for a button shift.
__________________
2012 Grabber blue, Auto, Eibach pro street S coilovers, MM caster/camber plates, Borla ATAK cat back, off road X pipe, A.E.M CAI, SCT-x4 Mike Roush tune,SR LCA's, BMR Relocation brackets, J&M Pan hard bar, UPR Catch can, SVE 15x10's, Mickey T's 275-60-15.
grabber12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2016, 09:57 PM   #11
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
Yeah it is major. You need to change the instrument panel cluster, ECM and harness and use something like VCM to get all the parts to agree.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 07:25 AM   #12
Registered Member
Regular
 
FastFord13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Montreal
Region: Canada
Posts: 4,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5LHO View Post
That same split second would have been you moving the gear lever in a manual but, I understand what you mean.
Its a little worse then that. After a test drive with the auto I felt the transmission was very clumsy. The Oem shift tables are terrible.

Sent from the future.
FastFord13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 07:56 AM   #13
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: winter springs
Region: Florida
Posts: 230
A tune helps but I still want it quicker. That was my issue. Would a more aggressive tune help that? Thanks to this forum I will be going to vmp to see what Justin can do for me.


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
buddyrich14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 08:15 AM   #14
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
It might but the stock converter will always be the thing holding it back slightly. In normal driving, the car tends to fire out strongly then dip into a relatively torqueless part of the powerband and that feels like a bit of acceleration softness. Heavy throttle tends to just incinerate street tires.

People forget that you can at least count on reliable performance Jn a straight line compared to the crapshoot that is every launch with the stick.
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 08:25 AM   #15
Registered Member
Regular
 
FastFord13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Montreal
Region: Canada
Posts: 4,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5LHO View Post

People forget that you can at least count on reliable performance Jn a straight line compared to the crapshoot that is every launch with the stick.
Its really not a crapshoot with a stick at all, I've missed a gear twice in four years, that's probably in the vicinity of 99.9% success rate. If someone is missing gears once or twice a week or so maybe stick isn't for them.
But yes an auto will hit its marks 100% of the time as opposed to my 99.9%, but its not always fun going from first to third then second with the auto's skip shift eco poop either so....

Sent from the future.
FastFord13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 08:48 AM   #16
Registered Member
Regular
 
DiESeven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Richmond
Region: Virginia
Posts: 1,909
Quote:
Originally Posted by FastFord13 View Post
Its really not a crapshoot with a stick at all, I've missed a gear twice in four years, that's probably in the vicinity of 99.9% success rate. If someone is missing gears once or twice a week or so maybe stick isn't for them.
But yes an auto will hit its marks 100% of the time as opposed to my 99.9%, but its not always fun going from first to third then second with the auto's skip shift eco poop either so....

Sent from the future.

Tune will get rid of the skip shift thingy. Thankfully.


Instagram: @v6beast
DiESeven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 08:55 AM   #17
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
It's not a crapshoot for missing gears, it's a crapshoot for maximum accleration and repeatability. I've done A LOT of instrumented testing here, hundreds of passes at the dragstrip, on slicks; testing a lot of different launch techniques. There is no way that one gets anywhere near consistency here compared to the auto. If you really think you're John Force here and that you'll get 99.9% perfection here with a stick, you're delusional.

A tune or unplug of the solenoid ditches the skip shift.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 08:56 AM   #18
Registered Member
Regular
 
FastFord13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Montreal
Region: Canada
Posts: 4,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiESeven View Post
Tune will get rid of the skip shift thingy. Thankfully.


Instagram: @v6beast
+1.
I'm not hating at all on the auto or why someone will chose an auto over a stick, and I hate when stick guys crap on auto guys.
A tune really helps the auto's with better shift tables, which is the biggest problem with the Oem auto Imo.


Sent from the future.
FastFord13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 09:12 AM   #19
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
There is a marked difference between the 11-12 autos and the 13-14, aside from the inclusion of select shift. The tune on the motor is better factory and the shifting performance is tighter. It still benefits hugely from a tune but, it was definitely better, even as delivered.

Another thing is the stick cars really need work in the shifter dept and, rear suspension control, right out of the gate. I've owned both types of 5.0 and I have extensive drag racing experience over decades.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 09:39 AM   #20
Registered Member
Regular
 
grabber12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: High desert
Region: California
Posts: 575
Tune never fixed my 1st to 3rd issue. Like I said I used bama & Mike roush.
__________________
2012 Grabber blue, Auto, Eibach pro street S coilovers, MM caster/camber plates, Borla ATAK cat back, off road X pipe, A.E.M CAI, SCT-x4 Mike Roush tune,SR LCA's, BMR Relocation brackets, J&M Pan hard bar, UPR Catch can, SVE 15x10's, Mickey T's 275-60-15.
grabber12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 09:49 AM   #21
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
You can't fix that, it's not a tune issue. It's a traction issue. Fix that, and you'll have no issue.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 09:53 AM   #22
Registered Member
Regular
 
FastFord13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Montreal
Region: Canada
Posts: 4,258
The car I drove was a 13. If that was better I'd hate to drive the 11/12.
A 70$ bracket cleans up the shifting nicely.

Sent from the future.
FastFord13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 10:04 AM   #23
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Locust grove
Region: Georgia
Posts: 372
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5LHO View Post
It's not a crapshoot for missing gears, it's a crapshoot for maximum accleration and repeatability. I've done A LOT of instrumented testing here, hundreds of passes at the dragstrip, on slicks; testing a lot of different launch techniques. There is no way that one gets anywhere near consistency here compared to the auto. If you really think you're John Force here and that you'll get 99.9% perfection here with a stick, you're delusional.

A tune or unplug of the solenoid ditches the skip shift.

Is that not what a 2 step is for? I can honestly say after having one installed my launches have been perfect.


2013 mustang v6 premium package
Powder coated gold metallic wheels
MPT ghost cam tune
Quarter window louvers
3.55 gears manual

2008 fz1
Chris44117 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 10:06 AM   #24
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
..but it does nothing for the wheelhop and the tendency for the rear axle to race the body to see who can get to the ditch first. Other critical upgrades on MT are an upper control arm at least, with LCAs and a panhard upgrade recommended.

A two step? Just to get a launch right? That isn't a good idea in a near stock car with cats in. A two step also won't necessarily help you with the clutch engagement action. You'll still need that to get that right.

My testing revealed that 4500 rpm was the sweet spot. High enough to not bog on the slicks. It wouldn't 60' any faster launching at higher rpm. I was dumping the clutch with a matching mat of the accelerator. 1.5 60' best. I know the auto won't do as well as this with the stock converter in, that's reality, especially with the 28" slick tires I have that I used to keep the 3.73 stick car in 4th through the stripe.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 10:33 AM   #25
Registered Member
Regular
 
FastFord13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Montreal
Region: Canada
Posts: 4,258
Your clearly a auto fan and ONLY run a 1/4 mile at a time.
Wheel hop is not anywhere as bad you say it is in a daily, maybe if your just running a 1/4 at a time it will become an issue, but your going to tell me that if your serious about running 1/4s with your auto car your going to run the stock rear suspension? I didn't think so, just saying.
I know your still upset about your stick crapping out but your logic on stick vs auto is flawed.
If you prefer auto that's fine, I hold nothing against them.

Sent from the future.
FastFord13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 11:00 AM   #26
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
Dude, I ran the stick for 3 years, on and off track. I've been driving stick for 35 years. I've had one automatic performance car in all that time: a 1974 Trans Am with a Turbo 400.

I'm not upset about the stick crapping out at low miles. Ford fixed it and that's it. It was fine after that. I'd still be driving the car if I hadn't wrecked it putting a blower on it.

The wheelhop on the road IS that bad and that's well documented. On the track, it's less of an issue because the surface is prepared and the slick tires gave full traction. Nonetheless, the minor tweaks I did out back there did help, I think.

I am running a suspension setup similar to what I had on the stick car because I took the parts off the stick car and I might as well use them. The car didn't need the help, nearly as much, that I can confirm.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 11:10 AM   #27
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: winter springs
Region: Florida
Posts: 230
Nobody talking about the Eco boost but that thing has some pickup. I have one of them 2 but it's the wifeys car


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
buddyrich14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 11:19 AM   #28
Registered Member
Regular
 
mustangz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Virginia
Region: Virginia
Posts: 4,575
Quote:
Originally Posted by buddyrich14 View Post
Nobody talking about the Eco boost but that thing has some pickup. I have one of them 2 but it's the wifeys car


Sent from my iPhone using Mustang Evolution
Because it isn't relevant at all to this discussion and this is the 11-14 GT section.
__________________
2013 GT Premium, Red Candy Metallic, Recaro seats, Electronic package, Strut tower brace, Sway bars, SHR flush mounted window louvers, RTR street-spec axleback exhaust, Ford Racing Boss 302 Side Exhaust, RTR wheels, 50/35% Window tint, Steeda black shorty antenna, and Ford OE Matte Hood Vents.
mustangz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 11:44 AM   #29
Registered Member
Regular
 
FastFord13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Montreal
Region: Canada
Posts: 4,258
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5LHO View Post
Dude, I ran the stick for 3 years, on and off track. I've been driving stick for 35 years. I've had one automatic performance car in all that time: a 1974 Trans Am with a Turbo 400.

I'm not upset about the stick crapping out at low miles. Ford fixed it and that's it. It was fine after that. I'd still be driving the car if I hadn't wrecked it putting a blower on it.

The wheelhop on the road IS that bad and that's well documented. On the track, it's less of an issue because the surface is prepared and the slick tires gave full traction. Nonetheless, the minor tweaks I did out back there did help, I think.

I am running a suspension setup similar to what I had on the stick car because I took the parts off the stick car and I might as well use them. The car didn't need the help, nearly as much, that I can confirm.
Just saying, anyone who is going to do serious track time IS going to do suspension work, auto or stick, that is also well documented.
Lets just face the fact that the solid rear axel isn't the greatest starting point for a great handling car and will always need help from the aftermarket world, auto or stick.


Sent from the future.
FastFord13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 11:53 AM   #30
Registered Member
Regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Region: Canada
Posts: 2,974
I'll give you that but, wheelhop was very much less on the automatic version of this particular car. It isn't nonexistent, even after adding the bits but, it is much more settled, stable and converts power into forward motion more easily.

The up side of a stick axle is strength and, inexpensive mods to improve performance. I would rather have a reasonably sorted stick axle than a bad set of ideas in an IRS. Fortunately, it looks like Ford finally got an IRS right in the S550.
__________________
2014 Premium GT, SGM, Brembo, Auto, Tech, Comfort, etc. GT500s, Steeda UCA, VMP auto N/A tune. 100 shot nitrous on BBR tune. Best e/t 11.42 at 120.64

2012 Premium GT, Candy Red, Brembo package, 3.73, MT82, Comfort, Tech, et al. Procal tune, Roush UCA, UMI poly LCA, GT500s, Steeda red bracket, Hoosier 28x10x16 bias drags. Best e/t 11.91 at 115.23 RIP
5LHO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2016, 12:05 PM   #31
Registered Member
Regular
 
FastFord13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Montreal
Region: Canada
Posts: 4,258
I really hope they did get it right in the S550, its been a long time coming.

Sent from the future.
FastFord13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 2011-2014 Mustang GT

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
13' AT select shift problems Nvrfastenough87 2011-2014 Mustang GT 0 05-04-2015 06:56 PM
Can a tune enhance performance in select shift mode? bazinga11 2011-2014 Mustang GT 10 12-26-2014 11:29 PM
Select shift clunking austin0324baird 2011-2014 V6 Mustang 17 02-07-2014 09:09 AM
2014 select shift automatic shifter AmericanBulldog 2011-2014 V6 Mustang 3 01-15-2014 03:11 PM
2014 Mustang Select Shift Issues Luis1991 2011-2014 V6 Mustang 4 08-06-2013 02:01 PM

» Like Us On Facebook



01:16 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.