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Old 05-11-2016, 10:06 PM   #1
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So I am planing on getting long tube headers on my 13 gt with a h mid but right now I can get the jba headers and h pipe for like 950 I've or take and the other deal is 1300 for the kooks headers and catted that's my dilemma right now any opinions


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If you can afford kooks go that route.
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At this point I can afford either it's just a matter of is it worth the extra bucks


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The Kooks are worth the extra due to the o2 placement.
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^^ I bought some bbk and it fried my 02 sensors due to the placement. I would go kooks now if I could. Spend the extra now and save on buy new 02 sensors that will add up to cost more.
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^^ I bought some bbk and it fried my 02 sensors due to the placement. I would go kooks now if I could. Spend the extra now and save on buy new 02 sensors that will add up to cost more.
I have the BbK LT. Maybe I should checkout how my sensors are looking now 😬


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I gotta be honest I just dont get it when it comes to the brand. Ceramic coating I get... axle backs sound different I get. I have a daily driver and salty humid area of florida. I have been under car and I just cant see what people thing is so different about the more expensive brands. Other than ceramic am I missing something? They are all pipes, stainless and same diameter right??

I have Pypes long tubes, Pypes H pipe and Pype Bombs. I NEVER go more than a couple days without people randomly telling me how awesome it sounds and they are way cheaper than other companies
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I have the BbK LT. Maybe I should checkout how my sensors are looking now 😬


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I gotta be honest I just dont get it when it comes to the brand. Ceramic coating I get... axle backs sound different I get. I have a daily driver and salty humid area of florida. I have been under car and I just cant see what people thing is so different about the more expensive brands. Other than ceramic am I missing something? They are all pipes, stainless and same diameter right??

I have Pypes long tubes, Pypes H pipe and Pype Bombs. I NEVER go more than a couple days without people randomly telling me how awesome it sounds and they are way cheaper than other companies


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The Kooks are worth the extra due to the o2 placement.
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These things are a **** load of money for a really hard install and minimal gains over just cat deletes....imho....
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I gotta be honest I just dont get it when it comes to the brand. Ceramic coating I get... axle backs sound different I get. I have a daily driver and salty humid area of florida. I have been under car and I just cant see what people thing is so different about the more expensive brands. Other than ceramic am I missing something? They are all pipes, stainless and same diameter right??

I have Pypes long tubes, Pypes H pipe and Pype Bombs. I NEVER go more than a couple days without people randomly telling me how awesome it sounds and they are way cheaper than other companies

The reasoning is purely an exotic type sound you can achieve with a brand like kooks. It's not all about the coating or composite of metal. Just by looking at those more expensive brands, you can already tell they will have a way different sound. It's comparitivley like a trombone, the more you push out the slide, the deeper the tone gets. The kooks headers have all different lengths and turns per each cylinder. I would imagine a lot of time and R&D went into getting it just right. It's like a Subaru and how different they can sound with equal or unequal length headers...it's all about getting the soundwaves to resonate with each other in such a way. Personally, I've heard a kooks header'd car before and It is incredibly similar to the GT350 in a way that it makes your jaws drop and ears bleed. Check out this guys youtube video and look at the flyby at the end. You can't beat that sound IMO.
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The reasoning is purely an exotic type sound you can achieve with a brand like kooks. It's not all about the coating or composite of metal. Just by looking at those more expensive brands, you can already tell they will have a way different sound. It's comparitivley like a trombone, the more you push out the slide, the deeper the tone gets. The kooks headers have all different lengths and turns per each cylinder. I would imagine a lot of time and R&D went into getting it just right. It's like a Subaru and how different they can sound with equal or unequal length headers...it's all about getting the soundwaves to resonate with each other in such a way. Personally, I've heard a kooks header'd car before and It is incredibly similar to the GT350 in a way that it makes your jaws drop and ears bleed. Check out this guys youtube video and look at the flyby at the end. You can't beat that sound IMO.
Like I said lol. I get sssooo many mustang guys and people in general talking about how awesome the beast sounds ( and their right, lol)

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I think the other piece to this puzzle is the quality/workmanship along with the fit and finish. Maybe pypes doesn't have some of these issues but I've heard of issues with fitment on many other less expensive brands. For me, a guy who does his own installs on EVERYTHING this is important. If I were to get headers and I was buying them not worried about the cost I would def go with kooks or Stainlessworks. Just my .02

And sterling, I'm sure your car sounds sweet. Just because kooks might sound amazing in one way doesn't mean yours doesn't in another. Plus, let's be honest, any coyote with a blower and free flowing exhaust sounds bad to the bone.
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I gotta be honest I just dont get it when it comes to the brand. Ceramic coating I get... axle backs sound different I get. I have a daily driver and salty humid area of florida. I have been under car and I just cant see what people thing is so different about the more expensive brands. Other than ceramic am I missing something? They are all pipes, stainless and same diameter right??

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Like I said lol. I get sssooo many mustang guys and people in general talking about how awesome the beast sounds ( and their right, lol)

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You asked what was the hype, so I explained. lol. Great to hear you get so many compliments though.
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So op. Just because you go cheap doesn't mean it will sound like absolute crap. They will all sound good however they will sound different. Now with that being said don't expect someone to be like "I see you went with pypes or kooks instead of bbk or jba" it will not be distinguishable as an axle back would be.
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I had JBA's on my 05 GT ,they were high quality construction , very nice headers , fit and finish was excellent ,and they fit perfect !!
had Kooks on my 03 Mach1 they were nice also ,I know their 2 different cars but I CAN'T say the Kooks were any better than the JBA'S
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What about Bassani long tubes are they good


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Typically the top brands make a little more power and have better fitment and quality. Kooks and ARH usually dyno a little better than the rest and the fitment is usually perfect. Whether that's worth the extra money is up to you. To me it was, I have ARH tubes on order for mine.
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See post #4. I can't stress enough how important it is. I learned the hard way.
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Anybody have MBRP long tubes? I already have their race catback thinking of going with the headers and off road H as well.


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I gotta be honest I just dont get it when it comes to the brand. Ceramic coating I get... axle backs sound different I get. I have a daily driver and salty humid area of florida. I have been under car and I just cant see what people thing is so different about the more expensive brands. Other than ceramic am I missing something? They are all pipes, stainless and same diameter right??

I have Pypes long tubes, Pypes H pipe and Pype Bombs. I NEVER go more than a couple days without people randomly telling me how awesome it sounds and they are way cheaper than other companies


Sterling...I have the pype bombs currently and I'm looking at getting the pypes o/r h pipe, in your opinion would you think the drone from the pype bombs would get better/worse/stay unchanged?

I tried looking for the answer online and had no luck


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It's gonna get a lot louder guaranteed....
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Sterling...I have the pype bombs currently and I'm looking at getting the pypes o/r h pipe, in your opinion would you think the drone from the pype bombs would get better/worse/stay unchanged?

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I had the pype bomb catback on my 13Gt, when I put the JBA O/R H pipe on the drone and overall raspiness was unbearable for me. I switched to MBRP exhaust


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I had the pype bomb catback on my 13Gt, when I put the JBA O/R H pipe on the drone and overall raspiness was unbearable for me. I switched to MBRP exhaust


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Switched to the mbrp mid pipe? Or axle-back?


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I don't mind the current tone of the bombs axle back I would just like to get louder but not raspier


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Sterling...I have the pype bombs currently and I'm looking at getting the pypes o/r h pipe, in your opinion would you think the drone from the pype bombs would get better/worse/stay unchanged?

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I would say it would get much worse...
I sold my Pype bombs when I decided to go with O/R set up and went for the GT500s

I couldn't ask for a better sound with my setup!
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Switched to the mbrp mid pipe? Or axle-back?


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Switched to a MBRP catback


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I decided to go with O/R set up and went for the GT500s

I couldn't ask for a better sound with my setup!

Agreed. The GT500s sound fantastic with no cats.


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Sterling...I have the pype bombs currently and I'm looking at getting the pypes o/r h pipe, in your opinion would you think the drone from the pype bombs would get better/worse/stay unchanged?

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That's what I'm afraid of, I also currently have the pypes super system and I'm planning on getting the pypes LT and catted h-pipe(for emissions) but I'm afraid the drone would be louder with it.
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Anybody have MBRP long tubes? I already have their race catback thinking of going with the headers and off road H as well.


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Same. I have Raceback and am considering Long Tubes and the cut and clamp H pipe. No off-road for me lol


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Same. I have Raceback and am considering Long Tubes and the cut and clamp H pipe. No off-road for me lol


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Why no off road?! Is it the smell or the volume?


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