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Old 05-14-2016, 01:11 PM   #1
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I'm on the side of the road right now.

I was coming home from a car show. I had the MPT cam tune on the car. I do not run it everyday. Suddenly traffic gets backed up. I had my wife check the GPS and there's multiple accidents along the 35 for miles. So I decide to play it safe and pull off to the side to tune the car back to stock as I do not have cat deletes on and don't want to ruin them. I shut the car off, turn it on and I get messages saying to check charging system, service advance track and its not even displaying numbers to my odometer or fuel. The dash chimes three times. I dont know what do do. Car will not start. Not even try to.
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WTF? You changed tunes by the side of the road? You're screwed man. It got partway through and it dropped below 12v or had some other problem and now you need to get it towed to Ford to get it forced back to as built data. You'll have to send your tuner back in for an unlock too as the car and tuner are married and it likely won't recognize the car as its partner anymore.
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I'm gonna try disconnecting the battery first. I would have that done if I didn't take my tools out of my car -_-
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Good luck. I think you've pissed of the theft control. I never change tunes without booster box or a battery charger on, bc, this is what happens sometimes.
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Dude....I can't even right now...this car..I swear...so friggen temperamental. After sitting there for like 30 min or so, I decided to just give it another go.plugged the tuner in, turn the key on, lights n bells n s*** going off, reloaded stock tune, and to took it. Car turned on and took off like nothing was wrong. I swear it just said "f-you, I'm taking a nap"
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Once again, this car made me its b**ch. It owns me.
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Once again, this car made me its b**ch. It owns me.
At least you are mobile again.
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You are so fricking lucky and you are the author of your own discontent. Next time you get a bright idea like this, slap yourself silly.
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You are so fricking lucky and you are the author of your own discontent. Next time you get a bright idea like this, slap yourself silly.
What bright idea? A tune?
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swapping tunes on the side of the road far from home. That ain't smart.

I've made this error myself but, it was in my own driveway so it was an easy solution to have it towed to the Ford dealer 5 km away and pay a little to have them fix it. Since, I use a booster box or battery charger every time I change tunes. I have done this dozens of times without incident bc I swap in my nitrous tune for track fun and na for the road.
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Once again, this car made me its b**ch. It owns me.
At least it let you get going again after it let you know who was boss. Is it common for tunes to flake out when changing? I don't have a tune yet.
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Lesson learned. Always, always have a charger on the car when loading tunes. I had the same problem but luckily I was in my driveway and had access to a charger.
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It's stories like this that scare me away from a tuner.
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It's no big deal. You just need to use some common sense and avoid others' mistakes.....
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It's no big deal. You just need to use some common sense and avoid others' mistakes.....
I have learned loads of good stuff just reading this forum everyday and researching into things I'm not familiar with.
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swapping tunes on the side of the road far from home. That ain't smart.
Dude, I know, it wasn't my best decision but I had to make a choice. I still run cats and the traffic was going too slow for me to have extended breaks from lope idle. Plus it was a construction zone so all the regular exits were blocked off and the next one was like a mile away, would have taken me well over 20 min to get to it and I had been in an idle for 15 already. But I mean it was just soo bizarre. Ive changed tunes multiple times. No issues ever. But today it was just all the worst outcomes ever. Car dies on side of freeway with bumper to bumper traffic. I had called for roadside assistance and they estimated two hours due to the traffic...then it started to downpour and humidity in Texas sucks but couldn't run the car for AC but had to leave windows up, turning my car in to a sauna. I swear. My luck.

But...whatever. It just wanted to be prissy for an hour. It drives fine now.
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It's stories like this that scare me away from a tuner.
I'm sorry man, but you know what, stay safe than sorry. This honestly scared me to leave the car on stock and put the tuner away.
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At least it let you get going again after it let you know who was boss. Is it common for tunes to flake out when changing? I don't have a tune yet.
Shortly after I got the car back on the raod, I called a Bama specialist and told them exactly what happened and asked why that happened. He said that I'm not the only one that that has happened to. He says sometimes the car will bug out and not accept the tune (stock or custom) and to just to try again. I mean, take what you will from that. The Lope tune was from MPT. Never had an issue with it. In fact, I will go as far and say that my problem wasnt due to the tune or tuner and both were updated (very important to have)
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I hear you but, again, you set yourself up for problems by running a lope tune that would damage the cats in a condition where you might have to drive for an extended period. That wasn't that good an idea either and was probably prompted by such thinking as wanting to look cool at the car show with a lope tune. Am I wrong about how all this came to pass?

There's no problem changing tunes, as long as you takes a few simple precautions when doing it. I have a lithium battery car booster I use at the track when I do this. At home I use my regular plug in battery charger. Virtually foolproof as long as you are over 12v.
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I hear you but, again, you set yourself up for problems by running a lope tune that would damage the cats in a condition where you might have to drive for an extended period. That wasn't that good an idea either and was probably prompted by such thinking as wanting to look cool at the car show with a lope tune. Am I wrong about how all this came to pass?
No, you're right. Its really the only reason why I got the tune, novelty and for special occasions. Its actually a safe tune as ford has it too with their track key option. But MPT adds a performance tune with it, so at idle, the lope tune is running, but as soon as you drive, it turns into a performance tune (which is a freaken blast to drive). So in reality, its actually safe for everyday use. Just dont let it idle for more than 30 min if you run cats. But I was NOT expecting a stream of pile ups on an interstate that would leave me stuck idleing. But you know what, I've learned a lesson. I'm just gonna leave the car be. I should really appreciate it the way it is. At least mechanical-wise
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Yeah, I don't run my nitrous tune on the street bc it disables all the safety nannies, for example. Kinda has to, for the safety of the engine at the strip when blowing spray into the engine but, compromising safety on the road ain't that good an idea. Too many idiots out there....
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Neeeevvvvverrrr change tunes when not at home. It definitely is not a common thing. But this is not unheard of. Its called bricking the ECU. It needs to be re-flashed. While many many people run custom tunes, the car still isn't designed to constantly have the ECU flashed like that.
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Neeeevvvvverrrr change tunes when not at home. It definitely is not a common thing. But this is not unheard of. Its called bricking the ECU. It needs to be re-flashed. While many many people run custom tunes, the car still isn't designed to constantly have the ECU flashed like that.
You know, I thought that was an actual thing.
But then I hear people talk about changing tunes like, for example, every weekend for track night so I thought that it won't really harm if I change tunes a lot. But I'm just gonna leave it on stock so I won't have to worry about it
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Lesson learned. Always, always have a charger on the car when loading tunes.
Why's that? Is that similar to always having your phone plugged in when you perform an update so it doesn't brick if it runs out juice?
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Why's that? Is that similar to always having your phone plugged in when you perform an update so it doesn't brick if it runs out juice?

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Cool Darwin Contestant....

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I was coming home from a car show. I had the MPT cam tune on the car. I do not run it everyday. Suddenly traffic gets backed up. I had my wife check the GPS and there's multiple accidents along the 35 for miles. So I decide to play it safe and pull off to the side to tune the car back to stock as I do not have cat deletes on and don't want to ruin them. I shut the car off, turn it on and I get messages saying to check charging system, service advance track and its not even displaying numbers to my odometer or fuel. The dash chimes three times. I dont know what do do. Car will not start. Not even try to.
------------------------------------------------------------------You changed tunes by the side of the road? Ok, another candidate for the Darwin Award.

I wonder how many Camaros, Chargers, Various other Muscle cars passing you and said; That sure is an awesome Mustang parked there on the side of the road.
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I wonder how many Camaros, Chargers, Various other Muscle cars passing you and said; That sure is an awesome Mustang parked there on the side of the road.
I wonder who cares..
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On my sixxer, I was changing the tune back to stock to for a trade in, and when I went to start the car, the battery had died. Didn't have the AC, radio, or anything else on, and it still died on me.

I considered myself lucky it didn't die before the tune could be flashed, would've been a headache and not worth the time.

Needless to say, gonna get a battery charger before I get another tuner.


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Man....tough crowd.

Glad it sorted itself out OP.


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Gee, I've never heard of this until now, probably could've saved me a couple hundred. Do most people use battery chargers during tuning? And would checking the voltage prior to tuning be a good idea? No radio, A/C etc on during tuning is obvious enough, though
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At least when you update Sync the car is running. I updated to the latest version last week and it told me it could take 30 minutes or more. Luckily it didn't take nearly that long. I didn't feel like sitting and idling that long, but even so, I wouldn't have had to worry about the battery dying if it did take that long.


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I've never even heard anyone use a battery booster for tune changes, being it only takes MAYBE five minutes at the most, at least every time I've changed tunes its taken that long.
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All it takes is for the battery to drop under 12 v and the thing can lock up due to undervolt. Your battery, even if it's a good one of sitting at maybe 12.2 static so, why take chances?

You don't believe even with evidence staring you in the face, by all means, carry on.....
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All it takes is for the battery to drop under 12 v and the thing can lock up due to undervolt. Your battery, even if it's a good one of sitting at maybe 12.2 static so, why take chances?

You don't believe even with evidence staring you in the face, by all means, carry on.....
I wasn't arguing with you, this is literally the first time I'm hearing about it. Really good info to know, for sure
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