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Old 07-08-2016, 03:34 AM   #1
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14 or 15

Going to get a 5.0 soon just stuck in which year to get. I love the looks of the 13s and 14s but really looking to find which one is performance wise better
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I'll assume the IRS is better on road track and the solid axle in a straight line. Drive both then decide.
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Stock for stock, 14 GT runs the quarter a tenth quicker than the S550, with slightly less power.

The S550 has better handling. Test drive them, use the search function as well.


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14 or 15

Depending on if you are a fan of creature comforts, base model for base model, the s550 will spoil you a bit more. Now if you are getting a Premium, the s550 will still give more but that one is your call.

The s550s now come stock with a backup camera, lcd in the cluster, keyless fob, push start, stuff like Sync and auto headlamps that was an add-on before, and the interior just seems better.

The s197 does not come stock with a backup camera (extra), lcd in cluster only comes on the Premium, no keyless fob standard, sync/auto headlamps, powered seats is extra (tech package), interior has more hard plastic then the s550.


Now as far as handling and braking. I am more partial to the S550 over the s197. I have owned both and even after installing an aftermarket suspension on my old 2014, it still felt like the rear end was.....asleep? Just didn't give as much confidence as the feel of the IRS gives.

The braking portion is a plus with the s550. Stock GTs come with 4 piston "brembos". And the performance pack ones get 6 piston brembos.

The stock GTs of the s197 model get 2 piston calipers and track pack gets 4 piston brembos.

As far as suspension work if you want to lower it, the s550 isn't as sensitive as the s197. To lower an s197 semi properly, you gotta swap out panhard bar, control arms, control arm brackets, etc. Besides the normal springs and dampers. Where as the s550 is good with just springs and dampers.

If the price is fair on both and you like new technology, i dont see why you wouldnt pick an s550. If you just LOVE the s197 looks, then the 2014 may be right for you. I just pray it is a Premium because the base models really lack features. And most people who have bought a base model are/have swapped most parts out to emulate a premium.

As far as other stuff, you will feel about the same power from both. Most aftermarket stuff will run you in the same ballpark for price. Such as a tune, mufflers, short shifter setup, etc.

I would definitely say drive both then sleep on it for a night.


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Here is pics of my base model s550 interior and the interior of my old "premium" s197.

I know you are looking for performance wise info but also wanted to share the looks/feel of it. If it will be your daily, I am sure you will want the most bang for your buck on that end.

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Performance-per-dollar, it's no contest: S197. Cheaper to buy in, cheaper to modify, faster in a straight line bc, it's lighter.

The S550 is a better car in every way than the S197 but, it's more costly to buy up front, more costly to modify down the road and likely more costly to maintain bc it's more complex than the S197.

I love both but, ended up buying another S197 when I totalled my 2012. I wasn't keen on buying a first year car and the price point locally was too high for my comfort level. The 2014 was significantly better than the 2012 in the ride/handling dept and in noise control, despite both having the same handling package and creature comforts. I have no doubt the s550 will go through the same unnoted evolution.
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More classic mustang looks = 2013-2014

1/4 mile dragster = 2013-2014

Road racing = 2015+

Premium vs Premium = 2013-2014
Base vs Base = 2015
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^^ I thought the 2015 Premiums were better.
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Old 07-09-2016, 12:21 AM   #9
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Thanks guys for all the feedback. I'm trading in my v6 so it's going to be a while but for sure I'm getting it at the beginning of next year so I'll test drive both and let y'all know
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If you're not a dragster, and are okay with the looks, get the 15+.
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More classic mustang looks = 2013-2014

1/4 mile dragster = 2013-2014

Road racing = 2015+

Premium vs Premium = 2013-2014
Base vs Base = 2015
Everyone says the 2015+ with IRS is much better for road racing than the 2014s and earlier, meanwhile the solid rear axle Boss 302S race cars keep winning races to this day amongst a whole field of IRS cars. Makes you wonder. Don't believe the hype. A properly set up SRA can be a road course beast.
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Everyone says the 2015+ with IRS is much better for road racing than the 2014s and earlier, meanwhile the solid rear axle Boss 302S race cars keep winning races to this day amongst a whole field of IRS cars. Makes you wonder. Don't believe the hype. A properly set up SRA can be a road course beast.
Stock for stock, the IRS on the 15 is better.

"Properly set up" live axle.... = people have a lot more time & experience with the SRA and there are a LOT more aftermarket suspension parts, etc... so you have more people "winning races" with these "properly set up" cars. Plus the S197's are a little lighter, with basically the same engine.
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I think people look at this the wrong way. The irs makes the 15+ a better ROAD car. What kind of road race car it is isn't that relevant.

I also don't think it's really fair to compare the 15+ to a purpose built race car like the 302s. Lots more to what makes that car good than a properly set up sra.
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I think people look at this the wrong way. The irs makes the 15+ a better ROAD car. What kind of road race car it is isn't that relevant.

I also don't think it's really fair to compare the 15+ to a purpose built race car like the 302s. Lots more to what makes that car good than a properly set up sra.
Was not trying to compare the two, just saying that on a road couse, as was brought up in a previous post, IRS is not the end all be all. The cars the Boss 302s are against are also purpose built race cars with IRS. On the street the 15+ may have the edge but with a watts link and some upgraded suspension parts the 11-14s are real close.
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Was not trying to compare the two, just saying that on a road couse, as was brought up in a previous post, IRS is not the end all be all. The cars the Boss 302s are against are also purpose built race cars with IRS. On the street the 15+ may have the edge but with a watts link and some upgraded suspension parts the 11-14s are real close.
Back to my point.... 14 stock vs 15 stock..... or 14 performance pack vs 15 performance pack, the 15 is better IN GENERAL for roads/road courses (ie: handles a little better)
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Can't beat the improved ride quality and general predictability on ****ty road surfaces. That's what really makes the 15+ better. Limit handling on a smooth road course, you're right, you can make good with the sra, definitely.

The 14 has a rawness to it that makes it gleefully appealing in its own way. The 15+ is much more sophisticated and better all around but that makes it a little more impersonal and disconnected, if that matters to you.
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Back to my point.... 14 stock vs 15 stock..... or 14 performance pack vs 15 performance pack, the 15 is better IN GENERAL for roads/road courses (ie: handles a little better)
You are 100% correct. Stock to stock. I have a 2014 Track Pack. Has koni yellows, Steeda springs and HD mounts, Steeda sways, links, and upper and lower control arms, Steeda g brace and x brace and a Steeda watts link. Still has the rawness of the old and gives confidence like the newer ones. I don't care what anyone says, that watts link is a game changer for SRA cars. The rear finally feels connected to the rest of the car.
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IMO the front end of the 15's is to something, can't quite find the word. I know the IRS is an improvement over a SRA but with quality suspension upgrades it will handle quite nicely.
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IMO the front end of the 15's is to something, can't quite find the word. I know the IRS is an improvement over a SRA but with quality suspension upgrades it will handle quite nicely.
I agree that the 2015+ models have lost a little bit of their "Mustang"-ness. The past 10 years 2005-2014, the throwback / retro design was great and gradually improving. Then the s550 took more of a revolutionary change, instead of an evolutionary change IMO.
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Premium for Premium the 2015+ wins imo. Idk who thinks a Premium 14 is better then a 15. Everything on the interior is a lot more refined and up to date.

That is, if you are talking about solely the interior. I believe the premiums for 2015+ add more stuff to the outside as well. Diffuser, heated side mirrors, and a few other small things.

Not trying to push the 2015 as the 2014 is still great. But which one would appeal to you more?

I am just saying - if you want the most bang for your buck gadget-wise, the 2015 is great. As far as drag car, my 2014 was pretty solid. Not saying my 2016 would be garbage, but saying in a straight line, you may not much of a difference with both cars being properly set up.

Now if you will autocross, this is a gray area for me as I am not well experienced in this.
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Everyone says the 2015+ with IRS is much better for road racing than the 2014s and earlier, meanwhile the solid rear axle Boss 302S race cars keep winning races to this day amongst a whole field of IRS cars. Makes you wonder. Don't believe the hype. A properly set up SRA can be a road course beast.
It is fun to show people that not only do I still have a solid axle, but I also still have the S197 strut front end. Plus the whole count the spark plugs game when the times are posted after our run group...

I will say that the S550 is much easier to drive. It does not require as high of a caliber of driver to be fast as the S197 does.
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I will say this - both cars get me through the McDonalds drive thru. So both are OK in my book. LOL
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14 or 15

I've had the 13GT and now own the 16gt. Both are premiums and can say without a doubt get the 15. As much as I liked my 13 it's not nearly as satisfying to drive as the 16. The handling and clutch/shifter just work so much better on the newer car. It's now a sportscar. It's as if ford improved on everything that were complaints on the previous car. They had to make it that good in order to compete in Europe and it all works remarkably well. Yes it's not quite as fast in a straight line but in real world driving its so much more satisfying to drive in every way.


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