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Old 07-20-2016, 07:01 PM   #1
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2014 Mustang 5.0 Engine

Some people say that some of 2014 Mustang 5.0s have 2015 5.0 Engines. It that true? How could I find out if my has a 2015 engine? Also heard something about the build date of the car has to do with the engine.
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I don't think any of them have a full 2015 engine. I believe a handful might have a few 2015 parts.
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Old 07-21-2016, 08:06 AM   #3
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It's the head castings. Some have the later castings. My late 14 has them. What's inside is the same as the 2013s though.
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How can I find if mine has the 2015 head casting?

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Pull the mani cover, look immediately down at the front of the cylinder head, there is a water port there. 15+ will have a straight edged casting here, the sub-2014 will have a dogleg in the same place.

It doesn't make any difference anyway. The performance is unchanged. It's still loaded with the same camshafts, valves, springs and VCT tuning as the 13 cars. My '14 is not any faster, mph wise, at the track than my similarly loaded 2012 car.
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Heads are better tho right? like if you were to swap in boss intake cams would you get a higher potential performance?
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I think the heads are loaded with all the same stuff as the 13 cars so, the fact the castings are a bit better is diminished. Like I said, the car ain't faster, materially. Nitrous speeds my car up....
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Eh... The 11-14 heads will support ridiculous power bone stock so whatever. Would be nice to have the newer castings for a bolt on car tho. Might support a little more power there with the boss cams and a boss or frpp intake.

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Ya, mine has the 2015 heads, Supposedly larger ports, 10+ hp.
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Right.....

My instrumented testing reveals no gains. Large ports won't help you if you have the same cam timing and valves. Might actually hurt a bit.
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Think it's the concept of easy air in/easy air out.
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I'm guessing you haven't built too many engines. Much more important on the road than total port volume is cam timing, low lift flow and port velocity.

No matter how much volume you have, if it's choked by a small valve, you can't take advantage of it and might induce reversion and other problems.
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Obviously you can't read or comprehend that I'm not stating my opinion or fact, I'm merely stating what I've found investigating the change on these cylinder heads. For your information I've owned my own repair shop for 14 years and have employed some of the best mechanics in the field. Dumb ***
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When you use terms like easy in easy out in this context, it betrays a simplicity of mind, bigger is better philosophy around how engines work. I don't really see how it could be read differently than that.

I've put this particular conception to the test at the dragrstrip, with similarly equipped s197s. There is no measurable difference between the supposedly better castings than the older, lower rated v8 the 11-12 cars had. I've got nearly 200 passes worth of data here.
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I'm with 5HLO on this one. Slightly better head casting isn't going to do you any good without the other goodies to go with it.
With an NA car, the weakest link will still be your performance limiter and in this case, your cams, valves, tune, etc are all weaker links than the head. If one part is limiting your flow, opening up something that comes after it isn't really going to help.
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Not my opinion, just stating what I've found on the subject. FYI, I have a Degree in Psychology, Human resources, Human Behavior and Sociology. Sometimes simpler is better. Lol
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....for a Canadian, you seem to have an unusually volatile temperament. You've made a bunch of claims unsupported by evidence and and when contradicted, with evidence, you blow a gasket and start cussing me out. Then, you try to showcase your education as if that makes it all ok somehow.
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If u read back what I posted I've made no personal claims, just the information that I've found on the subject. No biggy. Just u don't know me and u have no idea how many engines I've built in my life, that's ok. Hence the Human behavior degree.
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I might have showcased my education, because my intelligence was questioned, that's ok, sorry if I came off to aggressive, Didn't mean to be.
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Well, I think everything that needs saying has been said and we each know where the other stands.

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