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Old 08-12-2016, 12:37 AM   #1
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Question Check engine light diagnostic tools ?

I want to be able to read my check engine light codes if I ever get any.
What are my options for doing that?
The last time I've done this was probably 1989 on my last Mustang GT.
Probably a dumb question but it's been a while as you can see.
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Do you have a performance programmer? If so you can read check engine lights that way or you can buy an OBD 2 scan tool


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Do you have a performance programmer? If so you can read check engine lights that way or you can buy an OBD 2 scan tool


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No,I do not. I don't want to change the computer software as its a daily driver.
Primary goal is to just be able to get the car running if it has a no start, or just a malfunction light.
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a reader will not fix the problem but it can help diagnose it. I have a simple tester/reader that I (or friends) use often. Go to your local parts monger/wall-mart or online and spend $50 for one. I'd tell you what mine is but it's several models old.
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You got the tech/nav package? You don't need anything if you do. Press radio buttons 3 and 6 simultaneously until the bezel enters a speaker walk test. cancel test and follow the prompts to "read DTCs". Bob's yer uncle, done.
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If not, you can buy a reader that will clear codes for less than $20 nowadays. Best tool you can have in your toolbox.
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^yes and ^^yes
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You got the tech/nav package? You don't need anything if you do. Press radio buttons 3 and 6 simultaneously until the bezel enters a speaker walk test. cancel test and follow the prompts to "read DTCs". Bob's yer uncle, done.

No I do not that's a nice feature though I bet you a lot of people don't know they can do that.
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What are they called? OBD2 code Reader ?
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Yes, among other names:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Electroni...anner/41285202

A multi-gauge can read and clear codes also:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/aerofo...ptor-0512.html
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$15.

https://www.amazon.com/Oxgord-Scanne...s=obd2+scanner
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Some good links,thank you.

$300 is more than I want to spend, I have to wonder if the $15 one is any good though.

looks like a big selection,thanks.
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This looks nice, much more than I would ever need, however it looks like I can use it on a different car if I had to.

I have to assume it's a good brand..

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Obd2 is universal. Will work on all vehicles. I have one of those cheap ones I keep in the trunk. I also have a higher end actron one that will give me real time data if I want it. It's all about how much money you want to spend and what you want to do with it. Read reviews on the sites that sell them.
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With a sophisticated car like this, you need to be able to read PIDs, not just generic obd2 codes. If you balk at 300, you might as well buy a used, unmarried tuner, because it'll do that and offer the possibility of tuning later, if you want to.
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With a sophisticated car like this, you need to be able to read PIDs, not just generic obd2 codes. If you balk at 300, you might as well buy a used, unmarried tuner, because it'll do that and offer the possibility of tuning later, if you want to.
what are PIDS ?

Im only interested in fixing the car if I ever need to.
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No code reader will "fix" your car. It will tell you the code and you have to determine the type of repair. It will then clear the code when you have made the necessary repair. All you need is a cheap one. If you have no intention of ever doing anything else, one of those will suffice in your situation. You don't need a tuner and, you don't need to read PIDs (performance information data).
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No code reader will "fix" your car. It will tell you the code and you have to determine the type of repair. It will then clear the code when you have made the necessary repair. All you need is a cheap one. If you have no intention of ever doing anything else, one of those will suffice in your situation. You don't need a tuner and, you don't need to read PIDs (performance information data).
Yes I know the code reader won't fix the car. .. I only wanted to read codes.

I can put in a crank sensor or throttle sensor if that's what it says to do.

Yep I don't need a tuner, I really don't want to reflash the computer.

I'm probably going to buy something for 50 bucks but I have to find a nice one
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PIDs are parameter identifiers and are unique to the manufacturer and the vehicle. They tell you alot about unique things that obd won't.

You don't need to reflash anything use code reading on a tuner.
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Look up an app by the name of "Torque" and buy the $20 Bluetooth OBD2 reader. I use it exactly for what you're talking about.

PIDs are nice for trouble shooting but not a must. Even if you want them though the app and reader will let you watch them.

Believe me, look into it.

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Look up an app by the name of "Torque" and buy the $20 Bluetooth OBD2 reader. I use it exactly for what you're talking about.

PIDs are nice for trouble shooting but not a must. Even if you want them though the app and reader will let you watch them.

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Thank you all, I have no idea what a PID is, I'll have to figure that one out.
Now the hard part is to find a nice code reader.
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PID, (parameter identifiers) are used more for tuning but are real time info on what's going on inside the engine. You can datalog them and inspect at your leisure.
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PID, (parameter identifiers) are used more for tuning but are real time info on what's going on inside the engine. You can datalog them and inspect at your leisure.
I wouldn't know what I was looking at, give me a code number and I'm thinking if I bought a sensor I will be back in business.

Some of these diagnostic scanner I believe offer some kind of diagnostics but I'm not sure .
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At this time this is the one I like the best, but it's a lot more than I need.
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Innova makes some good ones. You can't go wrong there.
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Thank you all, I have no idea what a PID is, I'll have to figure that one out.
Now the hard part is to find a nice code reader.
Your smartphone is nicer than ANY reader, and smarter too. No need for more.

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At this time this is the one I like the best, but it's a lot more than I need.
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If you spend more than $25 ($20 for Bluetooth OBD2 reader, $5 for the Torque Pro app, and $0 for the phone you already have [heck up give you one of my old phones if you pay shipping]) you are just wasting money for your described needs. The Pro app will do more than you need. I used it for data logging when I tuned my last car.

Unless you just want a name brand handheld unit that is useless for any other duty, at least look at it.

I hate to push so hard but I also hate to see you use money on that when it could be on parts, or even a date with your lady. Anything but paying 5x the price you should to accomplish the same end result.

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^^ this is true. I have not made the jump to that app yet cause I have good hand held ones that I got years ago before there was such a thing a torque. I agree completely. OP, get the app and the adapter. Done.
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Your smartphone is nicer than ANY reader, and smarter too. No need for more.



If you spend more than $25 ($20 for Bluetooth OBD2 reader, $5 for the Torque Pro app, and $0 for the phone you already have [heck up give you one of my old phones if you pay shipping]) you are just wasting money for your described needs. The Pro app will do more than you need. I used it for data logging when I tuned my last car.

Unless you just want a name brand handheld unit that is useless for any other duty, at least look at it.

I hate to push so hard but I also hate to see you use money on that when it could be on parts, or even a date with your lady. Anything but paying 5x the price you should to accomplish the same end result.

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I have a piece of **** TracFone instead of a $100 a month bill. LOL
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I also don't have access to the Samsung apps, torque is not in the Apple apps.
I was looking at it on YouTube, it's basically just a cordless reader.

But you never know if I can find something nice for 50 I'm just gonna buy it.
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