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Old 02-17-2017, 11:31 AM   #1
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'13 GT where do I go from here?!?!

Alright bought this car as a commuter car to drive back and forth from TX-La. now.... the bug has bite me and I'm buying parts as fast as I can
Goal. VMP ll R stage 2. Still be able to drive the 1600mile round trip once a month
I'm in odessa Texas and mustang must be only car available here I swear there are 150 of them driving around. So I want to be faster then them all and kill corvettes Right now I have
Brenspeed 91-93 tune
JLT CAI
Which I just installed and it feels like I have more throttle lag then before but it cut .5sec off my 0-60 depending how much faith you put into the timer on our cars. Did my 0-60 w/o tune saved it then installed CAI and tune and tested again with in an hour of first test and on first pass with tune and CAI ( same road same start point etc) 5.0sec 0-60 and I like the sound coming from engine. So πŸ‘ Yeah now I need to go faster.
On order is
JBA LTH and H pipe
Corsa extreme axle back

So I can't afford to drop 7k today on charger and I don't want to keep buying parts that come with SC (like the CAI). But I want more already. So big question is what can I do to get more out of it with out wasting money. Nos? Or should I just piece together what is needed for Sc and don't do anything else??? Until I can buy the kit

Yes suspension!! I know. But I'm trying to decide on bagging it or not. It's getting lowered 1.5" this week. (It was cheap).

Not going to be a trailer queen or dyno hoe. Just a toy plain and simple.

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I want it to be in the "sleeper" style so I can't get the 120HP rear spoiler, or the 75hp M sticker in the back. Need real options please lol.
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Alright bought this car as a commuter car to drive back and forth from TX-La. now.... the bug has bite me and I'm buying parts as fast as I can
Goal. VMP ll R stage 2. Still be able to drive the 1600mile round trip once a month
I'm in odessa Texas and mustang must be only car available here I swear there are 150 of them driving around. So I want to be faster then them all and kill corvettes Right now I have
Brenspeed 91-93 tune
JLT CAI
Which I just installed and it feels like I have more throttle lag then before but it cut .5sec off my 0-60 depending how much faith you put into the timer on our cars. Did my 0-60 w/o tune saved it then installed CAI and tune and tested again with in an hour of first test and on first pass with tune and CAI ( same road same start point etc) 5.0sec 0-60 and I like the sound coming from engine. So πŸ‘ Yeah now I need to go faster.
On order is
JBA LTH and H pipe
Corsa extreme axle back

So I can't afford to drop 7k today on charger and I don't want to keep buying parts that come with SC (like the CAI). But I want more already. So big question is what can I do to get more out of it with out wasting money. Nos? Or should I just piece together what is needed for Sc and don't do anything else??? Until I can buy the kit

Yes suspension!! I know. But I'm trying to decide on bagging it or not. It's getting lowered 1.5" this week. (It was cheap).

Not going to be a trailer queen or dyno hoe. Just a toy plain and simple.

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Stock except for CAI and Brenspeed tune as of 2-17

I want it to be in the "sleeper" style so I can't get the 120HP rear spoiler, or the 75hp M sticker in the back. Need real options please lol.
Thanks in advance.
You'll get a big difference if you get a torque converter. For automatics, that and tires are the first things I'd do after a CAI. Just my opinion...
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Torque converter, really? Sad to say but that never crossed my mind. I'll look into that right now Thanks
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torque converter yes. If you want to SC then plan around that. torque, gears, one piece drive shaft. LCA and RCA will definitely help on launch.

DO NOT waste time on injectors, coils, throttle body, or Boss IM. I did allot that I sold for a fraction once I got the SC. Boss is still on but not really worth the money. Maybe the CJ intake is but thats only if going with a Paxton or Procharger.
Seriously though... suspension... like good, will make a big difference regardless of direction
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Torque converter, really? Sad to say but that never crossed my mind. I'll look into that right now Thanks
Circle D seems to be the name at the top of the list. No problem, good luck on the build!
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Checking them out right now.
$1300 !!
Do we have any vendor discounts ???

This escalated quickly
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By the way. I'm only on the 91 octane tune.
Shifts hard as hell
I'm liking it already can't wait for the 93 with full exhaust
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Checking them out right now.
$1300 !!
Do we have any vendor discounts ???

This escalated quickly
Lol welcome to the racecar worldπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Shop around, and look for shops that run sales... off hand, I don't know of anyone running any discounts...
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A converter while expensive will make the car an animal. No different gearing is necessary like already mentioned.

But if a VMP blower is going to be a purchase down the road hold off on the converter. If you end up going with a Vortech or Paxton the converter will help tremendously.
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What's the difference?
Are you saying no need with Vmp?
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What's the difference?
Are you saying no need with Vmp?
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Checking them out right now.
$1300 !!
Do we have any vendor discounts ???

This escalated quickly
Check out beefcake racing, located in the Cincinnati area and give them a call.
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What's the difference?
Are you saying no need with Vmp?
Vmp has power instantly. Paxton builds as it revs so it is a bit soggy down lown some say, so the converter would help you get out of the low end

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Ok makes sense. Thanks

Another quick question
I ordered LTH 1-7/8" to 3"
H pipe is 3"-3"
And the corsa extreme is 3".

Do I have to fabricate the "cat back" corsa only sells an axle back

Use the stock pipes?? Or am I completely missing something again
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If u have only the mufflers of corsa you need the piping from after H to those. You could stay stock but since doing all the other piping might as well go 3"

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Ok makes sense. Thanks

Another quick question
I ordered LTH 1-7/8" to 3"
H pipe is 3"-3"
And the corsa extreme is 3".

Do I have to fabricate the "cat back" corsa only sells an axle back

Use the stock pipes?? Or am I completely missing something again
Did you get catted or an o/r H-pipe? I'm assuming the H pipe you got will accommodate the LTH's? Most of the big places like AM and CJ have how too videos so you'll see how it all fits together. Axle backs basically just replace your stock mufflers. It will make a lot more sense what I'm putting on here when you see all the pipe laid out...
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Yeah corsa only sells axle back in that style and year
That's what I was confused on, wasn't sure what everyone was using. You always se in signatures "LTH,H pipe, corsa extreme" I thought I forgot a part to order. Now have to find a shop to build the cat back part. Thanks
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Did you get catted or an o/r H-pipe? I'm assuming the H pipe you got will accommodate the LTH's? Most of the big places like AM and CJ have how too videos so you'll see how it all fits together. Axle backs basically just replace your stock mufflers. It will make a lot more sense what I'm putting on here when you see all the pipe laid out...

I looked at videos and it never shows h pipe to muffler

Ordered jba LT and JBa off road H pipe. Corsa axle back.
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I looked at videos and it never shows h pipe to muffler

Ordered jba LT and JBa off road H pipe. Corsa axle back.
K, so that "o/r" part means you're getting rid of your cats. You'll need a tune so you can trick the computer and not have the dreaded check engine light stay on.
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Aware of the need for a tune. Once I figure out all I need exhaust wise, like finding a shop to fab from h pipe to axle back and if I'm doing the nitrous for ****s and giggles. I'll start looking into who I want to tune it
Thanks again for the help.
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Update
Order placed and waiting.
Jba LTH
Jba h pipe
Corsa extreme
Bmr lowering springs
Bmr adj panhard bar
Bmr lca
Bmr relocation brackets
Nitrous kit 100 shot.
Vmp tuning.
That's it, now finish saving for vmp stage 2 SC
And bigger rim/tires
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I'd go gt500 mufflers and a mgw shifter
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You should also get the BMR upper control arm and bracket.
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I'm curious as to why you went with a nitrous shot if you are going to add a supercharger?
You're probably half way to the horsepower you'd get out of a stage 2 kit.
Anything higher than that boost level, you are playing with a loaded gun on a stock engine.
and if you plan on high rev's for any extended time, oil pump gears are a must!
I'd do the converter and call it a day!
If you plan on keeping the spray on top of the SC, definitely need to go into the internals.
I realize its addicting, but its no fun when there's a rod through the side of the block!
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I'm curious as to why you went with a nitrous shot if you are going to add a supercharger?
You're probably half way to the horsepower you'd get out of a stage 2 kit.
Anything higher than that boost level, you are playing with a loaded gun on a stock engine.
and if you plan on high rev's for any extended time, oil pump gears are a must!
I'd do the converter and call it a day!
If you plan on keeping the spray on top of the SC, definitely need to go into the internals.
I realize its addicting, but its no fun when there's a rod through the side of the block!
What he said... good luck with the build. Definitely figure out "what can break" and if you're willing to risk it. One piece driveshaft is highly recommended too. That stock 2 piece won't hold up under decent load. Anyway, it's all about having fun, but like REG said, not so much fun when you break.
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Basically it's I've never had nitrous, and wanted to have it. Kit does the usual 50-150 shot. I have a buddy that will take kit when I'm done. So not a complete waste.
Oil pump gears are going in when I add SC,
Uca are coming when I get paid next

Nitrous and Sc won't be on at same time.
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I Was told that I wouldn't need converter with VMP
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I Was told that I wouldn't need converter with VMP
Not sure who related the two, but they are 2 totally different mods that would compliment each other, in my opinion. Either way sounds like you got one helluva beast getting built. One day I'll get s/c myself. N2O had too many horror stories for me to risk it myself, but that goes back to just avoiding breaking anything lol

Your build is definitely sounding fun though! Good luck!
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Not sure who related the two, but they are 2 totally different mods that would compliment each other, in my opinion. Either way sounds like you got one helluva beast getting built. One day I'll get s/c myself. N2O had too many horror stories for me to risk it myself, but that goes back to just avoiding breaking anything lol

Your build is definitely sounding fun though! Good luck!

Was told in the event I got the VMP no real need for converter because it has power instantly, if I were to go with procharger it would benefit more.

I'll start at 25-50 shot and work up (possible) not a lot of places to refill bottle here in odessa,
Maybe I'm going left when I should go right but it's a learning curve, maybe a costly one lol
Anyway found out my buddy has a guy back home in Lafayette La that builds stangs and fords.
Brandon Yates @ serious performance.
So now I'll have some real guidance, voice of reason. Not that you guys haven't helped tremdously in the short time I've been here, now the person to install parts can say no that's dumb not doing it. Lol
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Was told in the event I got the VMP no real need for converter because it has power instantly, if I were to go with procharger it would benefit more.

I'll start at 25-50 shot and work up (possible) not a lot of places to refill bottle here in odessa,
Maybe I'm going left when I should go right but it's a learning curve, maybe a costly one lol
Anyway found out my buddy has a guy back home in Lafayette La that builds stangs and fords.
Brandon Yates @ serious performance.
So now I'll have some real guidance, voice of reason. Not that you guys haven't helped tremdously in the short time I've been here, now the person to install parts can say no that's dumb not doing it. Lol
I've heard of the name before, and that's definitely the better route to go. My tuner is where I've learned most of I've been repeating myself so definitely a better idea to listen to the one that's seen it/ done it. Good luck!
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100 shot of spray on my stock auto bloat-loaded '14 made 11.4 at over 120 trap, on a sticky tire. That's busting the cage limit but, I'll probably get away with it for a bit. Nitrous works pretty well on these cars, for a fraction of the cost of SC. I tried 150 but, it didn't pick up any mph, indicating I'd hit the octane limit for the pump gas in my area. I've used it on several cars and my drag bike as well but, I've also used blowers and turbos before as well so, I have a standard of comparison.
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Was told in the event I got the VMP no real need for converter because it has power instantly, if I were to go with procharger it would benefit more.
That's pretty much it in a nutshell.
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Saw this thread and I remember seeing this Video!.. Converter, VMP Supercharger, E85, on a Auto S550!.. I don't think he said what year exactly!.. https://www.facebook.com/Yolo******b...8771910974785/


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