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Old 08-15-2017, 02:32 PM   #36
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That's totally false, there are tons of good mechanics and shops out there! Nobody was moaning about paying 100.00/hour for labor, it was about paying double retail for parts. This job should have not been more than 1200.00, period. The part is only 550.00!
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I also have no problem paying more per hour for "better" work.
Its the ****ing part gauging that we are upset with.


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Old 08-15-2017, 03:19 PM   #38
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Smh some people will never understand.


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Would you pay almost double for anything if you could walk into a Walmart and just buy it there?
There is no way you would.
Its not about understanding, its about the ridiculous price mark up.
There is no way of sugar coating it, it is what it is.



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one of the reasons mechanics mark up parts (and 2x is extreme) is if the part fails you should get the labor for replacement comped.
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Would you pay almost double for anything if you could walk into a Walmart and just buy it there?
There is no way you would.
Its not about understanding, its about the ridiculous price mark up.
There is no way of sugar coating it, it is what it is.



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I don't shop at Walmart.

Certain jobs pay more. A/c work is not exactly easy. (Everyone just adds freon thinking it's good). So there is reasons the parts are marked up 20-40%.


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I found a local reputable shop that I've used before who is going to install and evacuate/refill the AC for 534.00. That's a little under 1100.00 with parts/labor which is what this job should have cost to being with. I've search on here and found other people who paid 1200.00
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Even my dealer will warranty the part, but not the labour UNLESS x part failed because of the install/labour.
I have never seen some place warranty say a water pump for 2 years labour included, its always just the part.

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Is your compressor from Ford? Or is it another brand. From napa Valeo ect?

MY price for a OEM compressor from Ford is $260 so I will sell for $330


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Is your compressor from Ford? Or is it another brand. From napa Valeo ect?

MY price for a OEM compressor from Ford is $260 so I will sell for $330


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You will be replacing that a/c comp sooner than you think.


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You will be replacing that a/c comp sooner than you think.
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Why, because it's the most expensive compressor sold?
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Why because it's the most expensive compressor sold?

You will see.


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You will be replacing that a/c comp sooner than you think.

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Can't be any worse than the OEM part that failed lol. What you are doing is exactly what they do in the shops, play off of people's fear with absolutely nothing to back up the statements.

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Can't be any worse than the OEM part that failed lol. What you are doing is exactly what they do in the shops, play off of people's fear with absolutely nothing to back up the statements.



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Don't have to back up my statement to you. I deal with this stuff everyday. From A/C to turbo and lift kit installs I do it all.

I do wish you luck though. Summer isn't the time to not have A/C


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Is your compressor from Ford? Or is it another brand. From napa Valeo ect?

MY price for a OEM compressor from Ford is $260 so I will sell for $330


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How much does Ford sell it for, to a regular customer?

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How much does Ford sell it for, to a regular customer?

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Don't have to back up my statement to you. I deal with this stuff everyday. From A/C to turbo and lift kit installs I do it all.
I do wish you luck though. Summer isn't the time to not have A/C
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If you don't buy these parts how do you know they are problematic? This place has a state of the art 177,000 sq. ft. manufacturing plant in Grapevine, Texas that makes HVAC parts and can produce 250,000 units per year.

The fact of the matter is, the local shop buys whatever they can get their hands on locally from the parts distributors that deliver to get the repair done the same day.
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Old 08-15-2017, 04:37 PM   #55
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So 10% mark up, very reasonable.


My dealer had a mark up of almost 300% for a hose, which is totally ridiculous.


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Well, SMP builds maybe 40% of it's parts at one of their many manufacturing facilities around the world, assembles products bought from other countries and buys the other 60% from China. I am familiar with this company as I helped design and sell an automated machine to manufacture electric motors some years...that machine went to their Mexican manufacturing facility.
Just so you understand and know for future reference is that any US manufacture can by parts from a country like China and as long as the US company puts 35% "manufacturing content" into the product they can say it's made in the USofA. By that I mean mostly labor in assembling or maybe some final machine work and or packaging...then they can label and sell the products as "Made in the USA".
I am very familiar with some of their brands like BWD, Blue Streak, TechSmart, Intermotor and Factory Air. Some of the more common brands I'm sure you will recognize are; Duralast, Import Direct, NAPA Belden, NAPA Echlin, NAPA Temp and Master Pro. The Master Pro brand I do have first hand knowledge of and it is a brand that is brought back for warranty...quite often.
So, as Rapinator said...I wish you good luck.
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Well, SMP builds maybe 40% of it's parts at one of their many manufacturing facilities around the world, assembles products bought from other countries and buys the other 60% from China. I am familiar with this company as I helped design and sell an automated machine to manufacture electric motors some years...that machine went to their Mexican manufacturing facility.
its no different than buying the OEM part that failed on the car. Where do you think Ford gets "OEM QUALITY" compressors that suck? What would be dumb is returning to my own vomit and buying a Ford OEM compressor to replace one that failed already. Any car part ia subject to failure, that's the world we live in. This notion that buying the part and paying double from a mechanic who has the local parts store bring them whatever is available somehow miraculously fixes this problem is ridiculous. It's a gimmick and stereotype some shops use to price gouge. I bought a cheap alternator one time on Amazon, first one failed, second one was fine. OEM parts fail all the time which is why the shop has a job. The compressors are not built in China, it says it.right on their website. They build other parts there besides compressors.

My girlfriend has had to have her wheel bearing replaced under parts and labor warranty from the body shop, I'm sure they don't put cheap crap on there o1f they are going to have to fix it again for free, but the part failed.
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I can't believe this thread has got to page 6! lol
Well at least it helps to keep this forum somewhat alive.


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It's not a rip off. You get what you pay for. Cheap compressors and driers ect. Get what you pay for promise you that.
Right here is what is wrong with most mechanical shops. I already said this compressor kit was 550.00 which obviously is not "cheap". An OEM compressor by itself is 300.00. Basically all these shops just buy whatever is on the shelf at the local warehouse that will fit your car that can be delivered to their door, but want to convince you since they are charging as much as double for the part, likely made in the same plant that makes 250,000 compressors a year, that it is a super special part and that every other part besides the one they are buying from a third party is inferior.

This thread started out talking about a shop trying to charge 1050.00+ for a compressor kit. One mechanic said, oh that's a normal price, but then two pages later admits the compressor itself is only 300.00. SMH. They all seem to talk in these circles, and they've told the lies so long they believe them.
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On my ole 1986 5.0 liter Fox body, took the car to a top A/C shop in the area and they quoted $1200 back in 1995, said the evaporator was bad. So I bought a bunch of A/C repair manuals, got a high vacuum pump, bought the gauges and leak test meter and adapters, and got the canister of R-134 from Costco. It helped a local A/C shop gave me free advice, so I learned how to do everything myself. All the tools and parts cost maybe $900. When I took the evaporator out, there was nothing wrong with it!

And yeah, taking the dash out was not fun. I tend to procrastinate; same deal with putting the damn dash back in. Drove the car for 3 months without a dash.

I did things right, when I converted from R-22 to R-134. Made sure I got the correct rubber O-rings and I flushed the entire system out. The money you save can be put into the tools, and if you know what you are doing, the only right way is to do it yourself.
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Motorcraft compressor, condenser and accumulator on Rock auto for $495.49 after 5% discount. Best thing to do is to find a Ford tech that does side work. I have one that works for $50 an hour, only cost me $300 labor to replace the clutch and flywheel.
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