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Old 09-12-2017, 07:22 PM   #1
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Made 463 hp 430 ft lbs on bama tune

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I recently datalogged my car using tq at flywheel and rpms as my parameters in livelink. I then took that data to excel and created a graph. Looks really smooth and the jlt intake made and extra 7 hp and 6 tq. Yes that is not much from just a tune run which made 456hp and 424 ft lbs but that tune was datalogged a few times and this run with the jlt was not. I think I can get 470 hp and 435 tq after they change some things with the tune. But all together the tune and intake made an awesome 51 hp was stock and prob a lot more under the curve. Oh yeah, how did I find hp? Hp = tq × rpm / 5252 .

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I've done things like this in the past before. Luckily the mustang logs Lb/min, and an easy factor is that 1 lb/min =~10hp, so you could just skip the livelink section and do it all in excel from your datalog if you wanted. Still though, this is a very good method for seeing horsepower and your powerband and tracking gains. I know everyone wants WHP, but with the variance from dyno to dyno it's almost a useless number.
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I've done things like this in the past before. Luckily the mustang logs Lb/min, and an easy factor is that 1 lb/min =~10hp, so you could just skip the livelink section and do it all in excel from your datalog if you wanted. Still though, this is a very good method for seeing horsepower and your powerband and tracking gains. I know everyone wants WHP, but with the variance from dyno to dyno it's almost a useless number.
And the best part is its free. I bet I can get 500 crank hp with a goor e 85 tune.


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Headers and E85, probably, but i'd be surprised if it got there on E85 alone. Who knows though.
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Headers and E85, probably, but i'd be surprised if it got there on E85 alone. Who knows though.
Yeah if I can't get more out of the intake with a data logged tune then your probably right.

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Sounds like a great way to see if a change helps at all. But if I'm going to the trouble of plotting a 'dyno' style graph I'm going to peak at least 550 HP. I just have to use 1 Lb/min = 13 HP.

As long as I'm only trying to track net gains/losses I'm all good, right?

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Sounds like a great way to see if a change helps at all. But if I'm going to the trouble of plotting a 'dyno' style graph I'm going to peak at least 550 HP. I just have to use 1 Lb/min = 13 HP.

As long as I'm only trying to track net gains/losses I'm all good, right?

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Really no trouble at all, i can take a log and pump one of these out in less than 5 minutes. Typically 1 lb/min is about 10 hp as i've been told, but yes really this is no different than using an actual dyno to track gains ... except it's free haha.
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Yeah, it's a good way to see gains. And you got a pretty dam close estimate out your flywheel numbers that many people do not know how to do. At car meets people ask me to dyno their car lol

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Really no trouble at all, i can take a log and pump one of these out in less than 5 minutes. Typically 1 lb/min is about 10 hp as i've been told, but yes really this is no different than using an actual dyno to track gains ... except it's free haha.
Well it is technically different, as the car is estimating based on the parameters it has available, while a dyno is actually measuring it.

But for a gains comparison I suppose it's fairly useful.
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Well it is technically different, as the car is estimating based on the parameters it has available, while a dyno is actually measuring it.

But for a gains comparison I suppose it's fairly useful.

I agree with that, my only argument (for the sake of discussion) is that with the wide discrepancy from dyno to dyno, is it really any better?

You're right though, if we REALLY wanted to get nit picky we could correct flow for fuel trims, but at the same time you correct a dyno to STP... again, just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point haha.
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I agree with that, my only argument (for the sake of discussion) is that with the wide discrepancy from dyno to dyno, is it really any better?

You're right though, if we REALLY wanted to get nit picky we could correct flow for fuel trims, but at the same time you correct a dyno to STP... again, just arguing for the sake of arguing at this point haha.
No you're right on the dyno discrepancy, they vary a lot and too many people are quick to cling to "optimistic" numbers.
But if you can consistently stick to one dyno, it's an accurate tool to measure changes. Your numbers may not be correct, but it will measure the changes accurately as long as no one is intentionally manipulating them. At least, in this case, you're measuring them rather than estimating them from other parameters in the computer.
But yeah, arguing for the sake of arguing lol
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