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Old 02-07-2018, 10:26 AM   #1
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07-09 Shelby or 11-14 GT?

Hello everybody,

So I am in a bit of a rut here, this spring I will finally be able to purchase my dream car after many many years but I dont know which to choose, this is a lot on the line here.

I have heard so many different things about both cars, I am a former v6 owner so this will be a huge step up - I still even miss my v6 at times...

But yes I am stuck on either a 2007-2009 Shelby GT500 or a 2011-2014 GT 5.0

Both opinions and facts are appreciated, i'd also like to see what other people are rocking here as I am probably going to stick around and ill keep you all updated as well.

Thanks for your time!
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The only benefit of the GT500 is it comes supercharged and has a better transmission (assuming you get a manual 5.0).

The 5.0 is lighter.
Handles better
Has a superior engine
Is probably cheaper, or has fewer miles at the same cost.

Really a 5.0 against an 07-09 GT500 is no contest, you should get the GT500. That being said, the 5.0 will not be supercharged from the factory, and wont have the "wow" factor. It just depends on what is more important to you.

I'm sure you're like me, you already know this, you just need to hear someone else say it.

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The only benefit of the GT500 is it comes supercharged and has a better transmission (assuming you get a manual 5.0).

The 5.0 is lighter.
Handles better
Has a superior engine
Is probably cheaper, or has fewer miles at the same cost.

Really a 5.0 against an 07-09 GT500 is no contest, you should get the GT500. That being said, the 5.0 will not be supercharged from the factory, and wont have the "wow" factor. It just depends on what is more important to you.

I'm sure you're like me, you already know this, you just need to hear someone else say it.
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Usually posts like this are someone trying to justify the extra cost for the GT500 over a very very capable 5.0 and that's fine lol.

If you really really REALLY want the GT500 and have the money for it (call your insurance company they can be $$$ to insure) then get what you want.

That said, stock for stock the GT500 is not faster. Its more expensive, older, heavier and the engine is not as good. But... its factory supercharged and can boost right up to 700hp with a $2k takeoff blower from a 13/14.

If you do get a GT500, look on the Market section at svtperformance.com which is going to be your best source for them. Real nice ones with all the factory fixes and upgrades go for $28-$32k or so. And by factory fixes I mean the clutch replaced with a 2010+ GT500 or a McCleod clutch, longtubes/midpipe, gears and suspension. I even saw one like that WITH the upgraded supercharger making 600+ sell for $30k pretty recently.

All that said... for $20k you can get a MINT 11-14 GT that'll be just as fast timewise, is newer, has the better engine and has the best available transmission in the 6R80 automatic. If you want to go fast in a straight line no question get the Coyote with the auto. If you want looks in parking lots or coffee/cars events then maybe go for the GT500. Just do your due diligence on the GT500, especially the 07-09s. They are fast but many a stock blower GT500 owner has been disappointed in a race vs a bolt on Coyote.
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For less money than an old GT500 you can get a supercharged Coyote.

Examples:

https://www.svtperformance.com/forum...h-tvs.1149513/

https://www.svtperformance.com/forum...#post-15816757
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Yeah that Lava Red one makes me want to just... I dunno man... The fact that it hasn't sold yet... maybe cuz its Lava but I love the Lava paint personally. And ppl are still stupid about the auto. I mean to each their own I love a manual but that car for straight line driving is going to be nuts.
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GT500, but I might be biased. I like the S197 I more than the S197 II.


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GT500, but I might be biased. I like the S197 I more than the S197 II.


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Looks wise I think the 07-09 GT500 might have been the best looking S197 made. I just looks... like a beast. Not a huge fan of the 05-09 GT front end as much but its grown on me. 10-12 fronts look awesome and mean too.
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I mean to each their own I love a manual but that car for straight line driving is going to be nuts.


Seriously though, GT500 does not come in auto either.
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11-14 GT has my vote! Manual or Auto, don't matter to me.
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I'm biased, of course, but I love my 2010 GT. It also depends on what profile you want. I wanted the double round lights. The important thing was stated a bit back....get what you want. You won't be disappointed.
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Interesting predicament. I too was considering a Shelby 500 but after checking around, I saw that the shelby changed to an aluminum block in 2011. Would lighten the car up quite a bit and seemed to be a better engine and helped handling out since that big block makes it front heavy. At that point I did't want anything under 2011, also raises the price up quite a bit. After researching more mustangs I was really sold on a Boss 302, 2013. Bought one last spring in brand new condition with only 1195 miles, harder to find but naturally aspirated 444 horsepower and out handles an M3 BMW. If interested look at Jay Lenos garage on you tube, very interesting and fun to watch. Good Luck in whatever you decide.
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I'm biased, of course, but I love my 2010 GT. It also depends on what profile you want. I wanted the double round lights. The important thing was stated a bit back....get what you want. You won't be disappointed.
2010 GT should not be in the discussion honestly. 3V. Substantially less power/capability than either the Coyote or the GT500.

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Interesting predicament. I too was considering a Shelby 500 but after checking around, I saw that the shelby changed to an aluminum block in 2011. Would lighten the car up quite a bit and seemed to be a better engine and helped handling out since that big block makes it front heavy. At that point I did't want anything under 2011, also raises the price up quite a bit. After researching more mustangs I was really sold on a Boss 302, 2013. Bought one last spring in brand new condition with only 1195 miles, harder to find but naturally aspirated 444 horsepower and out handles an M3 BMW. If interested look at Jay Lenos garage on you tube, very interesting and fun to watch. Good Luck in whatever you decide.
Coulda got a base 2015 GT for less probably. Just as good if not better powerwise and outhandles it...
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I would first like to say thank you to everybody who replied and helped out.

So far I am leaning towards a 07-09 GT500 and may completely mod it in the years to come. I?ve already owned a 3.7 V6 S550 so a switch would be nice. Although I still have not dropped the thought of a 11-14 GT.

Decisions decisions!
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Well... 2014 GTs can be had for next to nothing and thats a 4 year old car vs a potentially 11 year old car. Yes condition is key but... also... call your insurance company and make sure its not omg more than a GT. Also you can get a 2015 GT for very cheap or even a 12/13 Boss. Lot of choices.

And you don't have to mod the GT500 if you find one on SVTP that is already all done for like $32k. Just remember the 07-09s are nose heavy and if you do wind up getting a mint one that is bone stock you will HAVE to do the clutch/flywheel which is a solid $1500 plus labor. There is also a procedure to make sure that the transmission in the car is not one of the faulty ones, look up that procedure on google.

And definitely get what you want. If you are going to regret not getting a GT500 if you get a 11-14GT then get the GT500. But suggest you try to find a few to test drive at dealers if there are any. No private seller is going to let you ride without funds, not for a car like a GT500 but a dealer will.
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So far I am leaning towards a 07-09 GT500 and may completely mod it in the years to come. I still have not dropped the thought of a 11-14 GT.
LOL.....I think I can see where this is headed.....

It seems pretty clear that what you really deep down want (and probably deserve) is the best of both worlds. Of course, I'm talking about a '13 or '14 GT500. It will have all the power of a 'completely' modded 07' - 09' and, once the mods are added up, likely costs about the same. Plus, modern improvements, lower mileage, etc.

Maybe you will have to wait a bit? Don't know your situation. But it sucks to settle and buy your second (or even third) choice only to one day realize you have spent more than the dream you actually wanted in the first place.

Good luck with your search. It's hard to wait once you are ready to pull the trigger. I wish you all the best.
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If itโ€™s an 07 GT500 youโ€™ll want to replace the boat anchor of a harmonic balancer.


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Ya most ppl just do the 10% overdriven pulley. There are a lot of little things you need to do to those cars if they are stock. I would get one already done unless you have a real good mechanic or don't car about paying labor or can DIY and you have a lift.
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See I am glad I asked questions before just jumping into things.

Should I go for an 08-09 or will I still need to replace some things if stock?

I do want a fully stock vehicle if I can even find one because I would love to mod and go through the process myself.

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07-09 are the same driveline wise. And no, you will save a LOT of money getting one with the exhaust, suspension and pulley already done... maybe even the blower. Like $10k or so... Because I've seen em go stock with low miles for around $30k and modded/bolt ons for $30k. Besides exhaust/suspension/pulley and tune is all stuff that is just busy work. If you want to do something to customize it then actually customize it. There are a ton of GT500s out there still and they mostly all follow the exact same build formula. Bolt ons, TVS, tune, roll... A lot of them don't even do suspension. Dyno queens...
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Get the gt500 I will never buy another 11-14 5.0. The 18 is a different story.

Go with the gt500.

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I will never buy another 11-14 5.0.
Why?
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Bc I didn't enjoy the car. After $21,000 + in parts, it was deffintley fast like I wanted. Just didn't like the feeling of driving the car. Felt big and I did not like that.

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I'm sorry, but i have to call you on this... you think the GT500 will feel smaller? Or you're simply ok with the "bigness" because now at least it's a GT500?
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I'm sorry, but i have to call you on this... you think the GT500 will feel smaller? Or you're simply ok with the "bigness" because now at least it's a GT500?
๐Ÿ™„ Yes my 08 felt smaller inside then my 12 did. So yes I would take the gt500.
I could care less about the gt500 thing. As power isn't the issue with myself.

The 12 felt huge inside.
My 08 did not.
My 03 cobra did not
My 03 gt didn't.
Either does my 98.


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Bc I didn't enjoy the car. After $21,000 + in parts, it was definitey fast like I wanted. Just didn't like the feeling of driving the car. Felt big and I did not like that.
Wow! Is anyone else mind boggled? I hope young guys buying a car see this and really take care with their car choice. Before you put a dime into any car make sure it's the one you really want.

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๐Ÿ™„ Yes my 08 felt smaller inside then my 12 did. So yes I would take the gt500.
I could care less about the gt500 thing. As power isn't the issue with myself.

The 12 felt huge inside.
My 08 did not.
My 03 cobra did not
My 03 gt didn't.
Either does my 98.
Maybe thicker front seats from a '98, '03 or '08 could have made the interior feel smaller and fixed everything? Seriously, though, the seats must have been one of the few items not replaced on the car.

Really sad to hear this story, Rapinator. But I guess there are few of us who haven't gotten swept up and done this at some point only to become victims of hindsight later on.

Hope your current ride is perfect.

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Wow! Is anyone else mind boggled? I hope young guys buying a car see this and really take care with their car choice. Before you put a dime into any car make sure it's the one you really want.



Maybe thicker front seats from a '98, '03 or '08 could have made the interior feel smaller and fixed everything? Seriously, though, the seats must have been one of the few items not replaced on the car.

Really sad to hear this story, Rapinator. But I guess there are few of us who haven't gotten swept up and done this at some point only to become victims of hindsight later on.

Hope your current ride is perfect.

All the best.
And you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Seats were not the issue. I'm sorry you have to stick to one vehicle.

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๐Ÿ™„ Yes my 08 felt smaller inside then my 12 did. So yes I would take the gt500.
I could care less about the gt500 thing. As power isn't the issue with myself.

The 12 felt huge inside.
My 08 did not.
My 03 cobra did not
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Ok, i was thinking weight, and actually "feeling" like a big vehicle.
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Ok, i was thinking weight, and actually "feeling" like a big vehicle.
No didn't specify, which is on me. Feeling of being in the car. Inside of the 11-14 feel huge.

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I kinda like mine.
So do I. I can't remember, is it still on stock blower?

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And you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Seats were not the issue. I'm sorry you have to stick to one vehicle.
I beg your pardon? Am I understanding you correctly? Here's what I get out of that response:
- I am both unintelligent and uninformed,
- I don't get the point you were making and
- there's no way I could possibly earn enough to have multiple vehicles or change vehicles at will. (by inference likely caused by the first..?)

Was that your intent or am I just too sensitive?

Here's the thing. Most people come to a given forum because they share a common enjoyment of the forum subject. They enjoy the camaraderie. They can benefit from other members' experiences and expertise (like yours, which is clearly vast), potentially saving themselves both time and money.

That said, please allow me to explain what I meant in the previous post:


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Wow! Is anyone else mind boggled? I hope young guys buying a car see this and really take care with their car choice. Before you put a dime into any car make sure it's the one you really want.

By this I meant that others could take advantage of your experience. You seemed to be expressing regret at investing over $21K and not having a good outcome. Definitely a valuable lesson. Thank you.

Maybe thicker front seats from a '98, '03 or '08 could have made the interior feel smaller and fixed everything? Seriously, though, the seats must have been one of the few items not replaced on the car.

Prefacing the second sentence with 'seriously, though' I thought made it clear the first sentence was an attempt (clearly a poor one) at making a bit of a joke. Sorry if this was not obvious. No offense intended.

Really sad to hear this story, Rapinator. But I guess there are few of us who haven't gotten swept up and done this at some point only to become victims of hindsight later on.

I am honestly sorry to hear someone expressing regret in their mustang. I was also expressing commonality in that I and perhaps others had shared similarly unhappy results from projects that just didn't quite turn out as we had intended.

Hope your current ride is perfect.

My genuine wish for you that you are now in a better situation. And I still hope that you are.

All the best.

Means I honestly wish you and all readers just that.
I hope that clears up what I intended, Rapinator. I meant no disrespect and wasn't trying to attack your point of view.

Forums can be a fragile thing. I have seen them dwindle and wither away when a certain tone becomes prevalent. No one likes to see anyone mocked, name called, belittled or in any way made lesser. That is not why they go to a forum.

I enjoy this forum. And again, if I have done anything to diminish your enjoyment, my apologies. Is it too much to ask that we all think about how our comments might be interpreted by others and how they reflect on both ourselves and this forum?

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I kinda like mine.
Try to find one just like this! Nice car.
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Lol, my apologies, but that's funny right there..
Buddy needs to hit the gym abit more eh

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Try to find one just like this! Nice car.
Thats the goal! Either Torch Red or Vista Blue w/ white or black stripes.
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Lol, my apologies, but that's funny right there..
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