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Old 12-25-2015, 09:23 PM   #1
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Cobra Cams Mach 1

Any1 Here Using 96-98 or 99-01 Cobra Cams I Know the Hp Gains But Since its Intake Cams That Go In Do i still Get That Cam Lope That We All Want?


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If you think you'll ever get cam lope like a pushrod or a 2V with a 4V its not going to happen. And to answer your question your car will sound exactly the same. Its the 96-98 Cobra cams you want btw.
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If you think you'll ever get cam lope like a pushrod or a 2V with a 4V its not going to happen. And to answer your question your car will sound exactly the same. Its the 96-98 Cobra cams you want btw.

Im pretty bummed about that Now, but probably still gonna do it, worth it for the xtra hp


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Its not exactly a huge HP jump either. Its there, but might not be worth the cost and sure as hell not worth it if you are paying for labor.
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Its not exactly a huge HP jump either. Its there, but might not be worth the cost and sure as hell not worth it if you are paying for labor.

I Cant even do my own oil change lol only thing installed was my JLT Rai, plus the shop i goto is a mustang specialist so i pay out the *** for labor ugh im tired of building this car already ill never hit 10s


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I Cant even do my own oil change lol only thing installed was my JLT Rai, plus the shop i goto is a mustang specialist so i pay out the *** for labor ugh im tired of building this car already ill never hit 10s


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You'll need a complete motor build and a power adder for 10s along with a full chassis stiffening and suspension upgrade. The 96-98 Cobra intake cams will give a minor HP bump but its definitely cost prohibitive if you are not DIY.

TBTH, enjoy what you have for now, save up and then sell it for a 11-14 GT. It'll be cheaper than building your current car for those 1/4 mile times.
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You'll need a complete motor build and a power adder for 10s along with a full chassis stiffening and suspension upgrade. The 96-98 Cobra intake cams will give a minor HP bump but its definitely cost prohibitive if you are not DIY.

TBTH, enjoy what you have for now, save up and then sell it for a 11-14 GT. It'll be cheaper than building your current car for those 1/4 mile times.

See thing is i had a 13 Gt california And Hated it, gave it back, I Plan On going Full Gutted Spray Full Race suspension Built Tranny And probably Built Motor in the Market For Stock Cobra Manley Forged Rods, but cant seem to find any


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Just get Boss rods. $160 new from Ford and good for 800hp. They fit the 4.6L just fine.


And not sure how you hated a 13 GT. Did you do gears and a tune and exhaust and shifter? Because they are kinda meh with the stock tune and everything else bone stock. Honestly if you wanted to run in the 10s it was a MASSIVE downgrade to get rid of what you had and get the Mach. If you are paying labor you're going to have to put $10-$15k minimum into this car to get it to the 10 second level.


And also if you are having a shop do the work they might not exactly want to go with used parts especially out of a 10+ year old car. Like I said just get the Boss rods. And maybe learn to do some of the work yourself or be prepared to pay out the *** in this hobby.
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Just get Boss rods. $160 new from Ford and good for 800hp. They fit the 4.6L just fine.


And not sure how you hated a 13 GT. Did you do gears and a tune and exhaust and shifter? Because they are kinda meh with the stock tune and everything else bone stock. Honestly if you wanted to run in the 10s it was a MASSIVE downgrade to get rid of what you had and get the Mach. If you are paying labor you're going to have to put $10-$15k minimum into this car to get it to the 10 second level.


And also if you are having a shop do the work they might not exactly want to go with used parts especially out of a 10+ year old car. Like I said just get the Boss rods. And maybe learn to do some of the work yourself or be prepared to pay out the *** in this hobby.

I had 3 Stangs at one time i had my 07 Shelby miss that car lease went up lol My mach and a Bolt on 13 with boss intake full exhaust jlt, And i just dident like it in 4days my mt-82 went out it just pissed me off, but i think with boss rods Some new pistons some Head work Intake work 200shot nitrous And Rear work should be perfect, also i can buy a built 5.1 Stroker From a Buddy who made 800hp on it for 2grand so idk i might just buy that motor


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As said, the 96-98 cobra cams will not get you the overlap you want for that lopey sound at idle. Honestly, as good as they sound, they aren't doing much for you in the power department. Most street cars are rarely over 6500-7000 rpms where abundant overlap really benefits your engine. That's why the guys with the real aggressive cams in their 4V street cars are complete dogs in the low end. Keep in mind that all engines have their own characteristics, what works for one engine may not necessarily benefit another. The 2v's for example, need the larger overlap where the 4v's do not. This is mainly due to the diameter of the valves relative to the cylinder volume, hence why Scotty made the comment about never achieving the lope that a pushrod 5.0 or even 2V has. The 4v's do not need the huge overlap which creates the rough idle.

Some of the best cams the 99-04 4V's have the tightest lobe separation angle and make power throughout the powerband rather than just peaking. They cause virtually no additional lope at idle, but benefit you more.

That being said, a decent set of Comp Cams that don't even require springs will net you ~40rwhp tops with long tubes, and that's being generous. Factor in labor to install both and the hp/dollar ratio is so not in your favor it's not even funny. If you could do the cam install yourself you'll save tons on install but still don't expect to be shaving tenths off your times with just those additions.

I have exhausted the options for my Mach 1 quite extensively. I initially wanted to do longtubes, cams etc to make more power as well but after some research and discussions with the owner of the shop I go to I have accepted that these cars are great N/A high 12/low 13 second cars, that's it. Obviously you can get into 11's, 10's etc but it is going to be an expensive process. Frankly the chassis and suspension is outdated and needs to be updated along with the weak powdered rods.

If you enjoy the Fox platform and want to make the Mach 1 into a 10 sec car you can, but be prepared to pay for it. I am happy with mine as it sits for now, maybe a centri style blower running low boost to get me into the ~425rwhp range but that's as far as I am willing to go.

More power will be made from another car, either Coyote 5.0 or 07-13 GT500 a few years from now.
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As said, the 96-98 cobra cams will not get you the overlap you want for that lopey sound at idle. Honestly, as good as they sound, they aren't doing much for you in the power department. Most street cars are rarely over 6500-7000 rpms where abundant overlap really benefits your engine. That's why the guys with the real aggressive cams in their 4V street cars are complete dogs in the low end. Keep in mind that all engines have their own characteristics, what works for one engine may not necessarily benefit another. The 2v's for example, need the larger overlap where the 4v's do not. This is mainly due to the diameter of the valves relative to the cylinder volume, hence why Scotty made the comment about never achieving the lope that a pushrod 5.0 or even 2V has. The 4v's do not need the huge overlap which creates the rough idle.

Some of the best cams the 99-04 4V's have the tightest lobe separation angle and make power throughout the powerband rather than just peaking. They cause virtually no additional lope at idle, but benefit you more.

That being said, a decent set of Comp Cams that don't even require springs will net you ~40rwhp tops with long tubes, and that's being generous. Factor in labor to install both and the hp/dollar ratio is so not in your favor it's not even funny. If you could do the cam install yourself you'll save tons on install but still don't expect to be shaving tenths off your times with just those additions.

I have exhausted the options for my Mach 1 quite extensively. I initially wanted to do longtubes, cams etc to make more power as well but after some research and discussions with the owner of the shop I go to I have accepted that these cars are great N/A high 12/low 13 second cars, that's it. Obviously you can get into 11's, 10's etc but it is going to be an expensive process. Frankly the chassis and suspension is outdated and needs to be updated along with the weak powdered rods.

If you enjoy the Fox platform and want to make the Mach 1 into a 10 sec car you can, but be prepared to pay for it. I am happy with mine as it sits for now, maybe a centri style blower running low boost to get me into the ~425rwhp range but that's as far as I am willing to go.

More power will be made from another car, either Coyote 5.0 or 07-13 GT500 a few years from now.

Well ive already ran 12.14 with a 1.9 60ft On stock suspension full weight and short shifting i should run 11.80s Next time out on my slicks and new clutch. All i have done is JLT Rai Steeda Udps Bbk TB H pipe and bassani Catback, With the right driver These cars are pretty quick 13.2 Factory stock i ran, i think with a 150 Shot and some axles ill go Low 11s


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Well ive already ran 12.14 with a 1.9 60ft On stock suspension full weight and short shifting i should run 11.80s Next time out on my slicks and new clutch. All i have done is JLT Rai Steeda Udps Bbk TB H pipe and bassani Catback, With the right driver These cars are pretty quick 13.2 Factory stock i ran, i think with a 150 Shot and some axles ill go Low 11s


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Well if that is the case I tip my hat because that's a very impressive time. Your driving skills must be pretty solid because most guys with those mods aren't running those times.
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Well ive already ran 12.14 with a 1.9 60ft On stock suspension full weight and short shifting i should run 11.80s Next time out on my slicks and new clutch. All i have done is JLT Rai Steeda Udps Bbk TB H pipe and bassani Catback, With the right driver These cars are pretty quick 13.2 Factory stock i ran, i think with a 150 Shot and some axles ill go Low 11s


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Yeah I'd have to see a timeline for that man...
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